I don't mind 'em. Usually turn them into gems and then can use the gems to buy things that I like.

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

I don't mind 'em. Usually turn them into gems and then can use the gems to buy things that I like.

but thats one gem, everything in the uncommon gives 2+, doesn't that kind of reinforce that the "common" list is less wanted because it gives you less chance at even getting gems?

Of course they need to go, but they won't.

The entire reason they're there is the reason you have a problem with them. They pad out the chances of getting something good, meaning you have to buy more to get what you want.

The believed mechanics are 1 white, 1 white/green, 1 blue+, 1 anything (can be white or green). When you buy and open crates you're only ever paying for 1 guaranteed good item, 1 change of one and and additional rare chance of a 4th (blue/purple+?) care.

xbobx wrote: »

the loot crates should be removed all together and we should just be able to buy the items. IN the end it will be a lot cheaper considering that spreadsheet someone did up shows apex items will be less than 2 percent of winnings.

that is not acceptable. These guys will destroy their game unless they smarten up. I think the player base is shrining and they aer not smart enough to realize the answer is to become more transparent and customer friendly yet they have become greedy, guarded and toxic to the community.

I want to see all senior staff involved in decision making to be fired so that the programmers who actually do the real work have a chance to continue to be employed.

its sickening what has been going on.

i don't know if this has been going on forever but the mods and developers have become cowards by ignoring things of real concern and only addressing fluff.

until there are big changes, this game is going to crap and its too bad.

i would love to see the mods and developers to actually answer questions that matter and make changes that need to be addressed, but they wont. They know what they have become.

i agree, but this poll is purely a short term fix idea, zos seem brilliant at throwing those out so figured a little poll might get some voice out there, though unlikely but hey, worth the chance right?

dsalter wrote: »

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

I don't mind 'em. Usually turn them into gems and then can use the gems to buy things that I like.

but thats one gem, everything in the uncommon gives 2+, doesn't that kind of reinforce that the "common" list is less wanted because it gives you less chance at even getting gems?

Adds up over time. Of course it is, this is a money- making thing. *shrug*

Turelus wrote: »

Of course they need to go, but they won't.

The entire reason they're there is the reason you have a problem with them. They pad out the chances of getting something good, meaning you have to buy more to get what you want.

The believed mechanics are 1 white, 1 white/green, 1 blue+, 1 anything (can be white or green). When you buy and open crates you're only ever paying for 1 guaranteed good item, 1 change of one and and additional rare chance of a 4th (blue/purple+?) care.

^^^^^That.

And not surprising at least not to me.

They should go, but they won't.

I've never felt anything other than disappointment by what I've gotten in the crates. And that's from almost exclusively free crates. I would feel even worse if i'd paid for them.

Not a chance in Oblivion they'll get rid of the common items. The person they hired to monetize stuff as much as possible is still employed at the company, afaik. The stated reason for the crates is to bundle consumables for a good price. The other stuff? That is simply extras to reward people who buy the crates. Yes, everyone knows that no one buys the crates because they want the food/potions/poisons but because they want the apex and radiant apex rewards. Any method of getting people to buy more crates is fine. Changing the system so they won't have to buy as many, not so much.

Remember when people were posting about how they didn't get the apex mount they wanted, they did get enough gems to outright buy the apex mount they wanted, so they didn't have to buy any more crates until something they really wanted showed up? Yeah, pretty sure the marketing people saw those posts too. In a short while the radiant apex can't be bought with gems mounts showed up in the crates.......

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

Stop buying crown crates if you don't like it. They're basically just a scam anyway, and gambling as a rewards mechanic in a progress-based game is just a terrible concept.

They aren't rewards. Rewards are things you earn. There is nothing wrong with crates as long as they never contain items that give unfair advantages.

hmm was fine with the system with the crates until the hidden 3 came out then thought just .. no never spending a penny on them or anything bare in mind boutght everything since launch so yeah they lost 6-700 a year from me

Those filler items are basically your crown gems disguised as items. You suggest removing 3+ crown gems from every crate? Why? If you think you'll somehow get 4 - 5 collectibles instead of 1-2 collectibles and the consumables I'd say you're very wrong. The consumables serve a purpose for now. By all means they could be removed, but should be replaced with an amount of crown gems (3 - 50, with high numbers being extremely rare).

The 'common' items are fine, they get converted to gems.

It's all the minor cosmetic items that should not be in the crates. I own 30 facial accessories! 30! You know how many I actually wanted? None. It's the same with the ugly hat collection I have going. Emotes? Garbage! These things need to be put in the crown store so people who actually use them can easily get them.

If the crate rewards were mounts, costumes, furniture, pets, motifs then I would feel less bad about buying them.

Getting 2 facial accessories and an emote in my 3 free crates really discourages me from buying any.

I would even pay more per crate if they werent full of hats circlets and emotes.

xbobx wrote: »

the loot crates should be removed all together

Well, that's not going to happen any more than an auction/real economy will, so moving on....




Common/junk items in random packs have been a thing since random packs have existed. Grab bags full of junk, packs of magic cards, blind-box action figures....

Heck, I remember the days when I was playing Magic at game stores, the "been there, done that" crowd would buy card packs, flip to the Rare card to see if it was one they cared about, and just toss the Commons on a nearby table and forget about them. I've looked at selling my Magic collection periodically - some of my rares are worth up to $hundreds, the vast majority of Commons will get you a couple dollars for every thousand of them.

Just the way it is. Stop buying the crates if you don't like 'em. (personally, I love the three free ones they give us. It's not a free shot of drugs to get you addicted, it's a reminder of how crappy they are so you don't actually buy any.)


edit: if they get rid of the common items, they'd change the box to just give 1 or 2 cards (you know, take out all the things that are common), and your odds of good items wouldn't improve, you just would get less gems.