I Think I'm Doing It Wrong!

kringled_1 · March 2018

@Klixen I may be in great disagreement with you on your trading/selling thread but if you play evenings EDT feel free to get in touch or add me; happy to craft some on-level blue food or bits of gear to help you get through quests.
As far as the main question goes: In certain ways, of course it's easier after CP160. You're not continually out-leveling your gear and needing to replace what were perfectly serviceable pieces not long ago. But I don't think it's needed for most people either. I'm still newer to templar, so I can't offer the best of advice on how to build, but I will say that so far templar has not hung together as a class as well as most of the others - there's a lot of abilities with cast times and very limited CC which is awkward to use; all that said, I didn't have a lot of issues in the questing I've done so far. (And that includes on a second account with no CP to assign.

Dapper Dinosaur · March 2018

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »

I don't see how people can have such difficulty with this game. Even when I was brand new and the game was WAY harder in the overworld, I was barely ever challenged when I had no clue what I was doing.

Are you incapable of pressing buttons? What issues specifically are you having?

Actually...the OP is disabled, as am I. So yes, sometimes "poking buttons" (I expand that to using input devices as well) can be difficult.

I can understand if there is actually difficulty pressing buttons. I phrased that very badly in hindsight, I come off as a total ***. I was legitimately asking. Where did you find out he is disabled by the way? Which disability?

DieAlteHexe · March 2018

Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »

I don't see how people can have such difficulty with this game. Even when I was brand new and the game was WAY harder in the overworld, I was barely ever challenged when I had no clue what I was doing.

Are you incapable of pressing buttons? What issues specifically are you having?

Actually...the OP is disabled, as am I. So yes, sometimes "poking buttons" (I expand that to using input devices as well) can be difficult.

I can understand if there is actually difficulty pressing buttons. I phrased that very badly in hindsight, I come off as a total ***. I was legitimately asking.

Ah! Then I apologise for barking at you.

My issue isn't so much the actual "poking" (hrrrm, that sounds...wrong) it's more the reacting. Between slower reaction times (old age) and pain/mobility issues sometimes I just can't move fast enough. This is why I rarely group and never PUG (people would rightly be annoyed at me sometimes).

I can get "there" eventually (3 chars in mid- to upper CP range) but I'm slow and sometimes I just get pasted. It's hilarious at times just how quickly things can go wrong. I've just learned to go with the flow since death isn't that big a deal here.

Again, sorry for barking, I need more coffee, helps my interpretation levels immensely.

Saturnana · March 2018

Violynne wrote: »

lnsane wrote: »

and introduced me to the wondrous world of third-person-view.

I need to start doing this, adjust my camera for 3rd person, and just accept it.

I'm so needy for 1st person I feel stupid I can't adapt.

Thanks for the reminder I need to stop limiting myself.

Just remember that it's not one or the other!
I used to try and do everything in 1st. Now, whenever I'm in combat or just mindlessly running around and looking at stuff, I'm in 3rd person so I can take it all in. But when there's an interesting quest dialogue, I run into a player with fantastic-looking armour, or something else has caught my eye and I want to look at it in detail, I'll switch to 1st. In certain delves, caves or any area that that has cramped spaces, I'll set my zoom to half (with the scroll wheel) instead of fully zooming out, as fully zoomed-out may place your camera behind walls, wall decor, etc., and obstruct your view.

If you're that attached to 1st person view, maybe you could try switching to 3rd for combat only, and see if that works for you? Do the rest in 1st as you normally would / prefer. In time, you might even grow to like the overview that 3rd person gives, and use it more often. Be warned!

Dapper Dinosaur · March 2018

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »

I don't see how people can have such difficulty with this game. Even when I was brand new and the game was WAY harder in the overworld, I was barely ever challenged when I had no clue what I was doing.

Are you incapable of pressing buttons? What issues specifically are you having?

Actually...the OP is disabled, as am I. So yes, sometimes "poking buttons" (I expand that to using input devices as well) can be difficult.

I can understand if there is actually difficulty pressing buttons. I phrased that very badly in hindsight, I come off as a total ***. I was legitimately asking.

Ah! Then I apologise for barking at you.

My issue isn't so much the actual "poking" (hrrrm, that sounds...wrong) it's more the reacting. Between slower reaction times (old age) and pain/mobility issues sometimes I just can't move fast enough. This is why I rarely group and never PUG (people would rightly be annoyed at me sometimes).

I can get "there" eventually (3 chars in mid- to upper CP range) but I'm slow and sometimes I just get pasted. It's hilarious at times just how quickly things can go wrong. I've just learned to go with the flow since death isn't that big a deal here.

Again, sorry for barking, I need more coffee, helps my interpretation levels immensely.

You can get around your slow reaction times by learning and remembering what mechanics happen and when. You could even clear scalecaller peak on veteran if you're able to remember each boss's gimmick.

That is, if bad memory is not also a problem you have.

Violynne · March 2018

Dubhliam wrote: »

Stop looking for things to blame, and start asking people what you are doing wrong.

Have you realized yet you have completely missed the point?

DieAlteHexe · March 2018

Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »

I don't see how people can have such difficulty with this game. Even when I was brand new and the game was WAY harder in the overworld, I was barely ever challenged when I had no clue what I was doing.

Are you incapable of pressing buttons? What issues specifically are you having?

Actually...the OP is disabled, as am I. So yes, sometimes "poking buttons" (I expand that to using input devices as well) can be difficult.

I can understand if there is actually difficulty pressing buttons. I phrased that very badly in hindsight, I come off as a total ***. I was legitimately asking.

Ah! Then I apologise for barking at you.

My issue isn't so much the actual "poking" (hrrrm, that sounds...wrong) it's more the reacting. Between slower reaction times (old age) and pain/mobility issues sometimes I just can't move fast enough. This is why I rarely group and never PUG (people would rightly be annoyed at me sometimes).

I can get "there" eventually (3 chars in mid- to upper CP range) but I'm slow and sometimes I just get pasted. It's hilarious at times just how quickly things can go wrong. I've just learned to go with the flow since death isn't that big a deal here.

Again, sorry for barking, I need more coffee, helps my interpretation levels immensely.

You can get around your slow reaction times by learning and remembering what mechanics happen and when. You could even clear scalecaller peak on veteran if you're able to remember each boss's gimmick.

That is, if bad memory is not also a problem you have.

What? What are we talking about again?

I know and some day I might just do that (vet level stuff). I'm good for now as I still have tons more to do before getting there. I am just not going to inflict my quirks on anyone else, well, except my husband.

klowdy1 · March 2018

Klixen wrote: »

I'm a Magicka Templar. It's supposed to be the easiest class to play. But I really suck at it

My hope is that if I can just level up and get some decent gear, then I'll breeze through the content like everyone else does.

I just need some leveling advice. How do all of you 'power level' your alts?

When all else fails, spam sweeping strike. That ability hits aoe, and heals. The big thing that makes the game easy is champion points you start gaining after you hit 50. That mixed with a decent rotation melts enemies.

Robo_Hobo · March 2018

If you're a magicka Templar and want an easy questing build with survivability and resource management the likes of which you might as well remove your health and magicka bars from the UI as they won't be relevant (for overland questing), and want an easy rotation enough that someone with only one arm can do, then
follow this:

Wear a heavy chest and leg armor with the rest light armor (2 heavy 5 light). This gives you the most magicka regeneration for healing and damage abilities and to be able to use the Annulment skill in Light Armor, with still a lot of raw defence. Use a Lightning staff, you don't even need a second weapon. Have the 5 piece set of the Seducer (only 3 crafting traits researched needed) in divines or honestly whatever trait. Buy the amulet and rings of Vengeance Leech in any color quality of a level that you can wear from guild traders. Use the Atronach mundus stone (magicka Regen). Use Witch mother's potent brew food which you can buy from guild traders for pretty cheap.

Have the rings all enchanted with magicka Regen, and have the armor all enchanted with magicka, have most of your attribute points be in magicka, with the rest in health. If after your food buff (witch mother's potent brew) your health is below 16k, then add more health attribute points and armor health enchants until it's at that point.

Once all that is done, make sure you put a lot of skill points into light armor, and some in heavy armor (but not the last two), and in your class passives and destruction staff that you like. And put these skills on your bar:

Wall of Elements (lightning)/Blockade of Elements (Lightning), Annulment/Magicka Harness, Rushed Ceremony/Breath of Life, and Puncturing Strikes/Puncturing Sweeps

Basically just spamming sweeps will be enough for any fight in overland. The skill does good damage because of your high magicka (magicka damage scales with you max magicka) which in turns gives you more healing. With how much Regen you have you'll probably never run out of magicka, but in case you do, heavy attack to get it back. If you need a quick heal, use breath of Life, which will do a lot more healing because of your light armor/high magicka, and of you're taking a lot of damage, use annulment
Nothing in overland besides the world bosses can out DPS shield spamming.

Blockade of Lightning is just there if you get bored and want to do more damage, or press more than one button during most fights.

In short: A lot of new players fall into the trap of heavy armor and stacking health because of dying a lot, when in truth, due to the way damage and healing scales off of not only your spell/weapon damage, or max magicka/stamina, stacking health and heavy armor actually makes you *less* survivable unless you put together a genuine very specific tank set up. With more magicka and light armor, your damage is more so enemies die quicker and hit you less, your heals do more so you don't need to heal as much, your magicka regeneration is much better so you can do more damage and healing abilities before running out, and plus you get access to Annulment, which by itself will help you more than the stats of Heavy armor and stacking health ever would for overland, so long as you invest into your magicka attribute.

But don't worry, it's an easy trap to fall into without guidance and one I and I'm sure most have when we started the game too.

Now if you were playing a stamina character...it's a little more complicated, but I'll save that for another day. Good luck!

WillhelmBlack · March 2018

I'll put this very simply. Grind XP.

A level 7 character with no gear and 720CP is more powerful than CP160 character with Legendary gear.

strangeradnd · March 2018

Violynne wrote: »

lnsane wrote: »

and introduced me to the wondrous world of third-person-view.

I need to start doing this, adjust my camera for 3rd person, and just accept it.

I'm so needy for 1st person I feel stupid I can't adapt.

Thanks for the reminder I need to stop limiting myself.

Nothing wrong with playing in 1st person. There is nothing in the game that can't be cleared in first. It can be a little more challenging at times but at least you don't feel like your playing Pacman instead of an RPG type game. Unless your a serious Min/Maxer I would just play the way your more comfortable.

W0lf_z13 · March 2018

@Klixen I can help you out in game a bit if u are NA PC

Gothlander · March 2018

Ask a guild mate if they can craft you some gear. Many people will do it for free because everyone is loaded with mats. If you're on PC NA holler at me in game.

Violynne · March 2018

strangeradnd wrote: »

Nothing wrong with playing in 1st person. There is nothing in the game that can't be cleared in first. It can be a little more challenging at times but at least you don't feel like your playing Pacman instead of an RPG type game. Unless your a serious Min/Maxer I would just play the way your more comfortable.

It's not really a matter of comfort, though I don't disagree with your statement.

Dodge rolling is an important skill to master in this game, which I'm learning to do.

This skill isn't working out for me in 1st person because I find myself rolling into worse situations.

Nothing's worse than rolling into an AoE attack because you couldn't see it.

Dapper Dinosaur · March 2018

strangeradnd wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

lnsane wrote: »

and introduced me to the wondrous world of third-person-view.

I need to start doing this, adjust my camera for 3rd person, and just accept it.

I'm so needy for 1st person I feel stupid I can't adapt.

Thanks for the reminder I need to stop limiting myself.

Nothing wrong with playing in 1st person. There is nothing in the game that can't be cleared in first. It can be a little more challenging at times but at least you don't feel like your playing Pacman instead of an RPG type game. Unless your a serious Min/Maxer I would just play the way your more comfortable.

You are wrong and should immediately stop telling people this. Maybe also learn how to use the right form of your/you're while YOU'RE at it.

JKorr · March 2018

If you are only doing the main/Prophet quests, then yes, you could run into issues with the bosses. Working the faction quests/fighter's guild/mages' guild/random quests in tandem helps the leveling issues.

At least now they've tuned down some of the harder bosses. At early release I remember needing to be overleveled by at least 5 to clear Doshia, and attempting the doppleganger Abner and Lyris extensively boosted my creative venting vocabulary.

oXI_Viper_IXo · March 2018

If you're getting to a stage that you can't clear in the main story, take a break from it for a bit to do some other side quests, fighters/mages guild quests, dolmens, delves, etc. Get some more skill points, get all your passives, upgrade your gear, and then come back to it when you've leveled up a bit.

Don't get discouraged by the elitists who act like they never struggled with a single thing in this game. We all had to start somewhere and you've taken an important step in trying to get feedback on how you can improve. Keep playing, keep learning, and have fun!

AlnilamE · March 2018

Violynne wrote: »

lnsane wrote: »

and introduced me to the wondrous world of third-person-view.

I need to start doing this, adjust my camera for 3rd person, and just accept it.

I'm so needy for 1st person I feel stupid I can't adapt.

Thanks for the reminder I need to stop limiting myself.

This made a huge difference for me back when I was Vet 1 or 2. I had always played in 1st person if I could and I resisted. But I realized that if I wanted to group and run dungeons I needed to see around me, particularly if I was healing.

So I bit the bullet and was put off for a day or two, and then I got used to it and I hardly ever switch to 1st person anymore.

OP, a lot of people have offered help with gear and food, but I'll add my name to that list. I'm also on PC NA.

Another thing to consider is, how comfortable are you with mechanics like blocking, dodging, bashing and breaking free?

Do you know which of the skills you use will stun an enemy for x seconds (or until you attack them)? This is very useful if you are handling a group that is bigger than you can handle, or you need a few seconds to recover health/magicka.

Did you know you can use spells while holding block? (At least until you run out of stamina)

You can find some low difficulty mobs to practice on until you get a sense of the timing.

The game is not easy if you are just starting out and are not a seasoned MMO player. I remember when I was new and clueless and thought skills that are the bread and butter of my class were useless because they were too short or didn't do enough damage or were a DoT.

But one of the things I like about games and MMOs in particular is the discovery. The things you learn that make it go from hard to not hard to easy. And managing mechanics and stepping out of trouble is a big part of that.

As a Templar, you have a good toolkit. People have offered to craft you sets, but there are also overland sets that are very good.

One of the greatest changes of One Tamriel in my opinion, was how they organized sets so that each zone drops a light, medium and heavy set. AND they made quest rewards set items. So even if you not craft at all, you will get a set from each zone that will help your build.

You mentioned in the other thread that you are questing through DC. That is very fortunate, because in Glenumbra, both the Light and the Heavy sets (Bloothorn's Touch and Wyrd Tree's Blessing) are magicka-based sets. You can get 5 Bloodthorn and 4 Wyrd Tree (5 light pieces and 2 heavy plus jewelry, for example) and that will give you a good boost as well.

In Stomhaven, you have Dreamer's Mantle, which adds survivability (but will lower your damage) and Storm Knight's Plate, which is also a survivability set. They are a bit blah, but they will keep you alive.

When you get to Rivenspire, you will have Necropotence (which is a great pet sorc set), which will help you stack magicka, and Vampire Cloak, which will give you survivability and a bit of Spell Damage (here a good combo would be 5 Vampire's Cloak, 4 Necropotence because as a Templar you won't have pets out.)

And honestly, at low levels, you may want to get more heavy armor pieces because you don't have enough passives yet for it to make a difference.

Again, I reiterate the offer to help with gear/food and if you would like help clearing World Bosses or delves in a zone, that's always more fun in a group.

RebornV3x · March 2018

Alot of good stuff said above also you unlock a 2nd ability bar that you can swap to at level 15 so you can slot another weapon and 5 more skills( I run into tons of CP 720s that have no idea this is a thing so I thought I would add this)

newtinmpls · March 2018

Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »

I don't see how people can have such difficulty with this game. Even when I was brand new and the game was WAY harder in the overworld, I was barely ever challenged when I had no clue what I was doing.

Your sarcasm isn't helpful.

ESO was the first MMO type game I ever played. it took me a year and a half to really integrate to the point where I could do without thinking some very basic skills that keep me alive.

When in combat Keep moving. Circle around, back and forth ... just do NOT stay still.

Be aware of red and Move out of it.

Alternate a "skill" with a light or heavy (or medium) attack. Every other button you press should be skill / attack / skill / attack

If you are a templar - definitely use pointy sticks (um...it's officially called Puncturing Strikes, as soon as you can, morph it to Puncturing Sweep - that's the one that heals you as it does damage).

Make sure you have Rushed Ceremony on your bar and make it your "go-to" button for emergencies. As soon as you can morph it, pick Breath of Life.

Those two skills (and keep alternating with light/heavy "attacks") should see you through most content.

Dapper Dinosaur · March 2018

Don't get discouraged by the elitists who act like they never struggled with a single thing in this game.

This guy is having trouble clearing overworld mobs, as a magicka templar that can literally clear anything except world bosses by spamming puncturing jabs. Unless his build is a whole new level of garbage, he should not be having these issues. There's some critical aspect of this game that he's clearly not getting. Here's a list of things he could be doing wrong:

Not heavy attacking at all, running out of magicka, and getting destroyed once he's no longer healing

Standing in AoEs

Not even looking at what his enemies are doing and getting clocked by every single uppercut, stun, knockback, and knockdown

Not knowing what dodgerolling or blocking is

Building terribly (using stamina sets for his magicka builds because he thinks weapon damage helps his staff, etc)

Not slotting/using the right skills, and/or using only one skill over and over again that does not even heal him or anything

Charging headlong into world bosses and expecting to win alone

Picked a race that does not help his build or playstyle at all, ending his chances before they even began

Never using his ultimate, or using his ultimate on a couple trash mobs so he doesn't have it when he actually needs it

Using a wrong/situationally useless ultimate

Getting frustrated from dying so much and wearing full heavy armor, not realizing how armor types in this game work

Not using his skill or attribute points properly

I'm sure I could think of more, but you get the gist.

LittlePinkDot · March 2018

If you are on PS4 NA server, I wouldnt mind someone to play with. Im also pretty new and still play solo 95% on the time.

But as other people have stated, change to 3rd person view and put the camera out farther behind you so you can see more around you.
On Ps4 it doesnt tell you how to do it. Hold down the down button of the D pad than use the right stick to pan the view backwards.

Anotherone773 · March 2018

Some of this was already covered, probably...but ill go ahead with it. I started on pure bowblade/crafter just a few months ago which is probably one of the hardest to play solo. I did quite a bit of questing before i hit 160.

1) Mobs do not scale, you do. specifically your gear does. Every level you get above your gear, it becomes weaker. You get 5 or 10 levels above gear and you can lose 20% or more of its original effect. So make sure you keep it update.

2) The locked chests on the starter islands contain a training set of gear. Its kind of generic but does give an xp bonus for leveling. I personally would find a good set in a newbie dungeon and just keep queuing for that dungeon until i got 5 piece( set bonuses are important)

3) You should put most of your attribute points in magicka( if magicka), and some in health only if needed( IE: you are squishy). Your max magicka affects the damage of your abilities. Dont go magicka and stam at the same time you will make life hard.

4) You should try to eat blue food. You will have to make it, buy it off a guild trader( if you can find any) or have someone make it for you. It makes solo much easier.

5)Keep health pots on your quickslot( for your level range if you get out of the scale range they become less effective). Dont wait until almost dead to use one. Use at about 50% hp.

6) Draw aggro of as few mobs as you can. Use your spear to hit mobs from a distance and pull them to you. Try to work through them one at a time.

7)You should be using puncturing sweep in your mix of attacks which also heals you for a % of the damage done. Additionally, light and heavy attacks restore magicka with heavy restoring the most. One of these attacks needs to be between each ability use.

8)In the main quest you have to solo everything, except for most of it you have a companion or several. They arent super useful. But one thing they are useful for is aggro control. If you are fighting multiple mobs with a companion, let them take aggro and you work on the ones they arent fighting. You will likely still die in the main quest some.

9) In non solo instanced content, if something is hard for you, especially on bosses, wait for another player to show up. In delves and quest bosses, you dont have to wait long. Then you just help. You still get the XP and loot and you take nothing from them.

10) Use soul gems to res. If you died to trash mobs, you can simply run by them before you are fully resurrected.

11) Join an active newbie friendly guild for help.

12) For XP and gear, i prefer random dungeons through the dungeon finder normally.

13) Your rewards from quests scale to your level. So if something is to hard you can go do something else and come back later for it when you are feeling stronger. Remember you can level anywhere in ESO. You dont have to follow a certain order outside of quest chains.

dtsharples · March 2018

Join a guild \o/
It really is super helpful in every single way.

Even if its just a casual guild, you'll probably encounter others around your level to group with.
People will also be more inclined to help you with food / crafted armour etc if you're a guildie.

Magika Templar has a reasonably easy learning curve for sure - esp for Solo play / Delves..

Personally I'd get these few skills levelled up asap:

Reflective light
Puncturing Sweep
Elemental Blockade
Radiant Oppression
Honour the Dead

Thats 2 AOEs, a Spammable, an Execute and a Heal - Basically enough to kill anything in game.
Channelled Focus + Repentance on your back bar will keep you topped up on resources pretty much the whole time.

As already mentioned, if you want item sets, do a little research into which areas useful sets for your build drop, and farm that particular area for item (delves, dolmens, chests + world bosses in the open world)
Spinners -Malabal Tor / Silks of the Sun - Stonefalls (if you use Flame Staff) / Mothers Sorrow - Deshaan

Once you are more comfortable in your own skill + build, join up for some normal dungeon runs using the group finder.
These give a tonne of XP the 1st time you complete them, there is also a quest that gives xp, and the chance at getting some very nice set pieces too.
And remember that you'll get a huge chunk of XP for the first Random Dungeon you queue for each day (one per day) plus some additional loot in the mail. (Possibility to get Willpower Jewellery + Weapons)

If you want to spend gold anywhere, buy blue Magika + HP food from a guild trader.
And if you dont already have enchants on your gear, you can buy them pretty cheaply (just white ones) from the in game vendors.

Personally I'd put most attribute points into Magika too. You should get a tonne of HP already if you are pre-160.

For levelling quickly - Pair up with someone else if you can and do overland achievements.
You get a nice chunk of XP for doing anything for the first time.
Any quest, any world boss, any delve, any dungeon etc

You could of course just grind mobs, but it sounds like you may need a little help with that from someone else.

WhoSlappedThePie · March 2018

Get training gear... farm zombies (alik'r desert) etc... easy to 50 .. buy psijic ambrosia +XP% potions too..

strangeradnd · March 2018

Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »

strangeradnd wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

lnsane wrote: »

and introduced me to the wondrous world of third-person-view.

I need to start doing this, adjust my camera for 3rd person, and just accept it.

I'm so needy for 1st person I feel stupid I can't adapt.

Thanks for the reminder I need to stop limiting myself.

Nothing wrong with playing in 1st person. There is nothing in the game that can't be cleared in first. It can be a little more challenging at times but at least you don't feel like your playing Pacman instead of an RPG type game. Unless your a serious Min/Maxer I would just play the way your more comfortable.

You are wrong and should immediately stop telling people this. Maybe also learn how to use the right form of your/you're while YOU'RE at it.

Sorry about the your typo. As for wrong, an opinion can't be wrong and if you don't suck their is nothing in the game that can't be finished in 1st person. As much as I hate this term maybe you need to git gud. (yes their is spelled wrong)

Nestor · March 2018

The following can help, no matter what class you play, or build for that matter

Combat in this game comes down to Skill Rotations, with Light or Heavy Attacks interspersed. So, it's more like 1,2,3,4,1,2,3 dead. Pick your skill rotations so that one skill will set up or buff another skill. For example, use a skill that Snares, then a skill that gives Damage over Time to an area so the snared mobs spend longer in pain, then use a spam damage skill. This is just one example.

Once you learn a good rotation, then you can weave in light or heavy attacks between the skills to extend the resource pool you play from. So it's more like 1, LMB, 2, LMB,3, LMB, 4, LMB, 1 Dead. Then once you learn how to weave attacks, then you can start animation canceling to up your DPS.

So, attacks are not just a spam of the Left Mouse Button, but an application of your skills and weapon attacks.

You add in Blocking (reduce damage), Bashing (interrupting a caster or heavy attack wind up), Dodge Rolling (double click on a WASD key to avoid damage and get out of red quickly). Throw in some terrain advantage, and your basically a Mobile, Agile and Hostile wrecking machine.

As for Gear, well, while leveling, gear does not matter as long as you have something. It does not have to be best in slot, or even all that good. Also, we have lots of dropped set pieces so if you spend any time in a zone, you will more than likely pick up a set or two to wear. Each zone has a Magic, a Stamina and a Health or Tank set. Since everything scales, you can use this gear longer than you would think from the levels. It is only once you reach CP160 that you really want to worry about the gear, and by then you will have a good idea of what to use and where to farm for it.

Dapper Dinosaur · March 2018

It is a known fact by anyone with an ounce of common sense that playing in first-person is unquestionably a handicap. You can see much less of what's going on and can't see AoEs at all unless you are actively looking at the floor, FACT.

You think "nothing in the game can't be finished in first-person" if you "don't suck"? Ok, go do VMA in first-person from start to finish. Go do a vet trial. Go do the new vet dungeons on Hardmode. I'll wait for that clip for proof. Spoiler: You won't do it and neither will anyone else, because they are intelligent enough to know how much objectively better for combat third-person is.

Kiralyn2000 · March 2018

strangeradnd wrote: »

Nothing wrong with playing in 1st person. There is nothing in the game that can't be cleared in first. It can be a little more challenging at times but at least you don't feel like your playing Pacman instead of an RPG type game.

What does playing in first person have to do with "RPG"? I'm pretty sure that at least 75%+ of the CRPGs I've played over the last.... wow, 38 years... have been third person in some form.

Sure, I played Skyrim and the other TES games in first, but that's because third looks & feels terrible in those games. ESO, on the other hand? Being originally designed as a third-person/action title, you kind of need to be in third to be able to react properly to AoEs and other hazards. Sure, you can use 1st, but it's not ideal.

strangeradnd · March 2018

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strangeradnd wrote: »

Dapper Dinosaur wrote: »

strangeradnd wrote: »

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and introduced me to the wondrous world of third-person-view.

I need to start doing this, adjust my camera for 3rd person, and just accept it.

I'm so needy for 1st person I feel stupid I can't adapt.

Thanks for the reminder I need to stop limiting myself.

Nothing wrong with playing in 1st person. There is nothing in the game that can't be cleared in first. It can be a little more challenging at times but at least you don't feel like your playing Pacman instead of an RPG type game. Unless your a serious Min/Maxer I would just play the way your more comfortable.

You are wrong and should immediately stop telling people this. Maybe also learn how to use the right form of your/you're while YOU'RE at it.

Sorry about the your typo. As for wrong, an opinion can't be wrong and if you don't suck their is nothing in the game that can't be finished in 1st person. As much as I hate this term maybe you need to git gud. (yes their is spelled wrong)

It is a known fact by anyone with an ounce of common sense that playing in first-person is unquestionably a handicap. You can see much less of what's going on and can't see AoEs at all unless you are actively looking at the floor, FACT.

You think "nothing in the game can't be finished in first-person" if you "don't suck"? Ok, go do VMA in first-person from start to finish. Go do a vet trial. Go do the new vet dungeons on Hardmode. I'll wait for that clip for proof. Spoiler: You won't do it and neither will anyone else, because they are intelligent enough to know how much objectively better for combat third-person is.

It can be done and is regularly, is it a handicap, yes it is, but I have never found it necessary to Min / Max or 3rd person to finish anything. I admit it may take longer and it does not always go flawlessly. If I am on this weekend with some spare time I will run VMA for you, I have not done the new dungeon or seen anything about it yet so, yes it will take a few tries to get it right. I never said it was easy but don't say it can't be done.

As for the rest of the advice you gave above. I can't argue. Rotations make a huge difference, not standing in the big read circles all the time is huge, don't just spam light attacks is another important item but comfort in what you are doing is important as well. If someone does not like 3rd person they should know it is not 100% needed and I can't believe you truly believe things can't be cleared in 1st person.

I am not going to argue about it and if you don't agree that's fine, your entitled to your opinion as well.