Skwor wrote: »

Same 3 bots each cutting up a third of upper Craglorn, I report them on a near daily basis. Seriously please will you do something? How many times do they need reported?

Server?

I believe the Dev's use the Xander Cage approach. Video or it didn't happen. A still pic is hard to prove it's a bot. This sucks and they should do so much more investigating repeatedly reported.

Be sure to reply to the email even if no video or pics. List all the report numbers you have on that bot. Maybe that will wake them to act.

lordrichter wrote: »

Grimm13 wrote: »

I believe the Dev's use the Xander Cage approach. Video or it didn't happen. A still pic is hard to prove it's a bot. This sucks and they should do so much more investigating repeatedly reported.

Be sure to reply to the email even if no video or pics. List all the report numbers you have on that bot. Maybe that will wake them to act.

They don't send out an email for bot reports. At least, I no longer get emails for bot reports. Maybe that means they never get them. Maybe they just decided I don't need the spam.

Edit: Also, I don't think they bother to look at bot report videos.

I have received them and recently

When, oh when, will everyone learn and understand that...

ZOS does not care about bots!

I agree there is something up, I see them all the time and they are clearly effecting the cost of items in the guild stores when u see someone list 5000 leather for 25 percent under mm i say to myself and theres a bot sale

Looking at how ZOS has dealt with exploits in the past it is really interesting how they continue ignore issues for bots, could it be that ZOS themselves are the ones running bots??

Ramber wrote: »

I agree there is something up, I see them all the time and they are clearly effecting the cost of items in the guild stores when u see someone list 5000 leather for 25 percent under mm i say to myself and theres a bot sale

Bots tanked the EU market not too long ago. A few botters wanted to cash out so they listed thousands of ethereal dust at 25k each (MM value is 75k). Just to farm thousands of dust, you need a massive botting operation (like dozens of bots picking nodes 24/7 for a few months). And they were somehow allowed to operate all that time without being banned.

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Looking at how ZOS has dealt with exploits in the past it is really interesting how they continue ignore issues for bots, could it be that ZOS themselves are the ones running bots??

I have some tinfoil for sale, $10 a roll. I know you can get it cheaper elsewhere but that stuff in the stores is actually government sponsored and has microchips in. Mine doesn't.

I think the reason is simply bots are harder to handle and keep happening in mass numbers. Exploiters are much smaller numbers, have done something in a specific location in a specific way. Bots are just characters running around farming, although ZOS should really have better detection systems for them by now.

Casdha wrote: »

I always tend to stop and look at folks for a second or two who might think I'm a bot just so they know I'm not, or I let them take the node even though I might get to it first. I can see myself looking like one though because I've used the same route for years now and also know how to leapfrog it if someone is also there so we aren't competing for the same node. I've learned how much distance it takes to have live nodes between you and someone else so they aren't getting screwed either.

That said, the bots I see don't even move, they just stand there all night and take the same node over and over again.

Not saying any names but you could get one of them without determining if they are a bot or not on the simple fact that Copyrighted names are suppose to be a No No.

In my experience, the stand-and-pick bots are very rare these days. They stand out, and I have seen two, maybe, in the last 6 months. Next time you see one, pop in here and post the server and location.

With enough practice it is easy to tell the difference between a human and a bot. It is good that you are taking the time to do things that show you are human. One of the fears that I have with the easy-to-report-bots add-ons out there is that ZOS will get inundated with false reports. That only serves to help the bots.

The_Protagonist wrote: »

could it be that ZOS themselves are the ones running bots??

There was a pack of bots that ran for a very long time in Shadowfen. It took 6 months before the last one finally disappeared. I don't know whether actually ZOS booted them. I can't see a reason why ZOS would ignore them for months, and then suddenly take an interest. I figure that either the botter stopped using the account, or they renamed the account.

Believe me when I say that it crossed my mind that these bots were run by ZOS. They were Teflon Bots and stood out from all of the other bots simply because they were in the game for so long. Generations of bots in other locations came and went while these bots continued to run.

Skwor wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Server?

PC North America

I will swing by there and see what bots I can find, if I have time today.

will say this eso is aware like all mmos are , first they have to prove they are bots , you could do a video on them would help move things along , remember when they banned many players who was reported as bots by players ,in the beta days .

the uproar on the forums , they soon found who was rmt/bots , and reisntated the players who did no wrong but was reported by other players .

so just because you have seen them , i have as well eso have to prove it , so just simply carry on reporting them , but video reporting is much better .

as for players saying price reductions are a indication yes and no , players will only pay what they think its worth not what players list it for , after all most things has a price on them , players just want more .

easiest way to stop the bots is google eso online gold and whatever and see who is selling it , then you can judge how much of a problem it is .

i give example on eve online 1 player has earned tens of thousands of pounds selling isk + injectors on ebay .

so please give eso evidence , then they can do something , do you think for 1 sec they dont do nothing , can assure you they do , its bad management to advertise what they do about it , as a manager myself i love to catch them in the act .

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Ramber wrote: »

I agree there is something up, I see them all the time and they are clearly effecting the cost of items in the guild stores when u see someone list 5000 leather for 25 percent under mm i say to myself and theres a bot sale

Bots tanked the EU market not too long ago. A few botters wanted to cash out so they listed thousands of ethereal dust at 25k each (MM value is 75k). Just to farm thousands of dust, you need a massive botting operation (like dozens of bots picking nodes 24/7 for a few months). And they were somehow allowed to operate all that time without being banned.

It was exploiters, not botters.

lordrichter wrote: »

In my experience, the stand-and-pick bots are very rare these days. They stand out, and I have seen two, maybe, in the last 6 months. Next time you see one, pop in here and post the server and location.

With enough practice it is easy to tell the difference between a human and a bot. It is good that you are taking the time to do things that show you are human. One of the fears that I have with the easy-to-report-bots add-ons out there is that ZOS will get inundated with false reports. That only serves to help the bots.

I saw it again in the same place for the next night or two, so I finally had enough and waited on the node to spawn in front of it and picked it before it could. It had been turning between a plant node and a rock node that were back to back, after I picked the node it turned towards the wall and was gone the next night and havn't seen it since,,,, coincidence,,,, maybe

knaveofengland wrote: »

so please give eso evidence , then they can do something , do you think for 1 sec they dont do nothing , can assure you they do , its bad management to advertise what they do about it , as a manager myself i love to catch them in the act

Many video game companies decide, on purpose, to do nothing or little about hacking and cheating. The reason is very simple: economically it's not worth it. They are there to make profit, they are not non profit organizations. Keep that in mind.