Stam dk or magicka dk

Grimrale · March 2018

What do you play and why?

Danksta · March 2018

Neither, though if I were to play one it would be stam.

dovakiin5574 · March 2018

Stam

Sustain on mag is just bad right now

Asmael · March 2018

Stam

Several reasons:

I am a cat. #FlufinessMatters. As it so happens, fluffiness has a better synergy with stamina (don't ask why).
Stamina is better at sprinting. It's important when traveling between the different sk00ma dealers, or if someone you randomly cross has too big of an interest in your m00nsugar.
Stamina is better at sneaking. It's important when you need to borrow things for a pretty long time (especially without the peep borrowing knowing about it).
You can spam vigor like a madcat and pretend you have a specific smell which boosts everyone's morale. It's good enough to be made into a perfume, so surely it works.
You can be a cat. And a dragon. And a werewolf too. (again, don't ask how it's possible)
In case it wasn't self-evident from the above statements, being a Khajiit nets you 500 flufiness points. Absopurrrly worth it.

You ask for reasons. There you go.

Grimrale · March 2018

Stam

Asmael wrote: »

Several reasons:
I am a cat. #FlufinessMatters. As it so happens, fluffiness has a better synergy with stamina (don't ask why).

Stamina is better at sprinting. It's important when traveling between the different sk00ma dealers, or if someone you randomly cross has too big of an interest in your m00nsugar.

Stamina is better at sneaking. It's important when you need to borrow things for a pretty long time (especially without the peep borrowing knowing about it).

You can spam vigor like a madcat and pretend you have a specific smell which boosts everyone's morale. It's good enough to be made into a perfume, so surely it works.

You can be a cat. And a dragon. And a werewolf too. (again, don't ask how it's possible)

In case it wasn't self-evident from the above statements, being a Khajiit nets you 500 flufiness points. Absopurrrly worth it.

You ask for reasons. There you go.

Ok this post was gold

geonsocal · March 2018

both..i enjoy the tankiness...

really enjoy the mag dk for all the fire it can attack with, like the stam dk for all the poison it can stack...

WakeYourGhost · March 2018

Asmael wrote: »

Several reasons:
Stamina is better at sprinting.

Stamina is better at sneaking. It's important when you need to borrow things for a pretty long time (especially without the peep borrowing knowing about it).

Sprinting is also good for the Borrowing point, too. You don't want to spend too long around someone you just borrowed something from.
They may start to smell funny... I mean, I tend to pocket-borrow, pocket-borrow, Life-borrow. It leaves them pawsitively tuckered out, so they take a short nap after.
People taking naps need to bathe first, though - Or else they start to stink like the ones I borrow from.

Vaoh · March 2018

PvE - Stamina
PvP - Magicka

Flip those two around and you’ll have issues, especially in PvE.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · March 2018

We need more info on what you want to play (if asking for yourself).

Magic DK is pretty strong in PVP at the moment. They are very tanky and can dish out surprising damage when they need to. In PVE, their DPS is better than the forums would have you believe, but they struggle with sustain. The bigger issue is that they are forced to compete with stamina DPS for melee spots in a raid. The net result is that as a PVE DPS, you will be able to complete just about any content without issue, but you will struggle to find a spot in an above average raid looking for
a leader-board spot. Good races include Dunmer (best), Altmer, Breton, and Argonian (especially for PVP).

Stamina DK is in a bad spot in PVP IMO, but admittedly, I have very little personal experience playing one. From PVE DPS perspective, they are in a great spot. I think they are the easiest way to break 40k on a target dummy. While you will get beat by a really good stamblade for raw DPS, they are few and far between. In most hands, Stam DK will beat Stamblade. If you are in the top 1% of button pressers, the opposite is true. Good races include Redgaurd (best), Khajiit, Imperial, Bosmer (especially for PVP).

What we havent talked about is straight tanking. For that you really do run a hybrid build. Most of your points will be in health, so calling it magic or stam is not really accurate. DKs do make the best tanks, and you can really do that with any race. If going for the best tank race, Argonian is the answer. Many will argue that you should min/max a tank race by chosing a DPS race, in which case, I would look to Dunmer (magic) or Imperial/Redgaurd (stamina).

As to what I play: I have a Dunmer magic DPS, a redguard Stamina DPS, and an Argonian Tank. My Dunmer has the most AP, my redguard gets the most trial time these days, and my argonian is really for tanking with pugs.

Grimrale · March 2018

Stam

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

We need more info on what you want to play.

Magic DK is pretty strong in PVP at the moment. They are very tanky and can dish out surprising damage when they need to. In PVE, their DPS is better than the forums would have you believe, but they struggle with sustain. The bigger issue is that they are forced to compete with stamina DPS for melee spots in a raid. The net result is that as a PVE DPS, you will be able to complete just about any content without issue, but you will struggle to find a spot in an above average raid looking for
a leader-board spot. Good races include Dunmer (best), Altmer, Breton, and Argonian (especially for PVP).

Stamina DK is in a bad spot in PVP IMO, but admittedly, I have very little personal experience playing one. From PVE DPS perspective, they are in a great spot. I think they are the easiest way to break 40k on a target dummy. While you will get beat by a really good stamblade for raw DPS, they are few and far between. In most hands, Stam DK will beat Stamblade. If you are in the top 1% of button pressers, the opposite is true. Good races include Redgaurd (best), Khajiit, Imperial, Bosmer (especially for PVP).

What we havent talked about is straight tanking. For that you really do run a hybrid build. Most of your points will be in health, so calling it magic or stam is not really accurate. DKs do make the best tanks, and you can really do that with any race. If going for the best tank race, Argonian is the answer. Many will argue that you should min/max a tank race by chosing a DPS race, in which case, I would look to Dunmer (magic) or Imperial/Redgaurd (stamina).

This is an amazing post. I would probably go with tanking or use 2h weapons. So I guess I'll go play a stam DK.

zyk · March 2018

I love both in PVP. I don't get why people suggest Stam DK is weak in PVP. Maybe if you try to play it like a nb.

djyrb · March 2018

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Many will argue that you should min/max a tank race by chosing a DPS race, in which case, I would look to Dunmer (magic) or Imperial/Redgaurd (stamina).

This is an interesting argument - what's the reasoning? To maximize one of the resource pools (stam/magicka)? Or the extra side benefits from racial passives like Dunmer fire damage or Redguard stam regen?

emilyhyoyeon · March 2018

Magicka

magicka dk is best for the roleplay for one of my characters. stamina dk doesn't fit any of my current characters

Grimrale · March 2018

Stam

djyrb wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Many will argue that you should min/max a tank race by chosing a DPS race, in which case, I would look to Dunmer (magic) or Imperial/Redgaurd (stamina).

This is an interesting argument - what's the reasoning? To maximize one of the resource pools (stam/magicka)? Or the extra side benefits from racial passives like Dunmer fire damage or Redguard stam regen?

I too am wondering about this argument.

Lestorn · March 2018

Magicka

Because Dark Elf Pyromancer!

jlmurra2 · March 2018

Magicka

I enjoy playing my Dunmer magicka Dragonknight more. My Imperial Dragonknight tank is more stamina focused.

Savos_Saren · March 2018

Magicka

Because apparently, I'm masochistic.

The current meta is stam, though. If you want access to higher damage and executes- go with stam.

Lynx7386 · March 2018

Stam

I think you mean to ask "Tank DK or Stam DK". Mag DK went extinct.

MaxwellC · March 2018

Kinda hard, I enjoy playing my Stam DK for the roles of DD/Tank but I also enjoy my Mag DK roles (healing/DD). PvE I hate being a Mag DK but PvE I love being a Stam DK. PvP I hate being a mag DK but mainly because I just sit there block casting while spamming my roots till they drop while on my Stam DK, I'm consistently frustrated from the lack of DK related abilities on my bar.

Ragnarock41 · March 2018

but why not both?

RoyalPink06 · March 2018

Stam

Stam is bae. I love my stamDK. FIrst and only DPS spec I've been half decent with.

SkyIsTheLimit1206 · March 2018

Magicka

#iamtheminority

In all seriousness, though, I find the StamDK rotation SUUUUPPPPEEEERRRR boring. I have one at CP, but barely play with it; I hit good numbers but it just isn't fun half-mindedly reapplying DoTs and heavy attacking and repeat.

Even though rotations on Stamblades for example are harder (and I can't hit nearly as high DPS) they are much more fun and keep you in the game and focused more.

In this case, I like MagDk > StamDk because you can make more unique rotations (~90% of DK skills are Magicka) even though it hits way lower numbers. StamDK is just too *** boring.

Grimrale · March 2018

Stam

SkyIsTheLimit1206 wrote: »

#iamtheminority

In all seriousness, though, I find the StamDK rotation SUUUUPPPPEEEERRRR boring. I have one at CP, but barely play with it; I hit good numbers but it just isn't fun half-mindedly reapplying DoTs and heavy attacking and repeat.

Even though rotations on Stamblades for example are harder (and I can't hit nearly as high DPS) they are much more fun and keep you in the game and focused more.

In this case, I like MagDk > StamDk because you can make more unique rotations (~90% of DK skills are Magicka) even though it hits way lower numbers. StamDK is just too *** boring.

Hmm interesting. Thanks for the info!

Banana · March 2018

Magicka

I like fire and are harder to kill. pVE only.

AnviOfVai · March 2018

Magicka

PVP fire explosions

Asardes · March 2018

Stam

PvE: Stamina has infinite sustain since it's not penalized for weaving heavy attack with every front bar skill since it has a significant buff to those, and very high single target DPS damage as a result. It and can also be easily converted to end game tank by simply changing gear, consumables and mundus.

PvP: Magicka since it has plenty of CCs, stuns, interrupts, mitigation, conditional self heals. Stamina is relatively weaker, since it relies on non-class skills for damage and healing, and doesn't have the same burst and utility.

Carbonised · March 2018

Magicka

Do you want to shoot out glorious flame or green poop?

Qbiken · March 2018

Magicka

But only in vMA and 4-man content. Magicka DK have a hard time to compete with melee stamina in veteran trials however.

boombazookajd · March 2018

I have both and I've found I enjoy both equally, with maybe a slight nudge to my magDK. There's just so much fire...I mean, I run Red Mountain and Skoria on my stamDK in a fun little hybrid build but still, I really love using fire in the game.

I don't find one more squishy than the other. Although it is easier to dodge and therefore stay out of red things with my mDK. I hate draining stam with everything. I feel more balanced with an mDK than I do my stamDK.

Jimmy · March 2018

Magicka

dovakiin5574 wrote: »

Sustain on mag is just bad right now

I'm glad this is noticed by others. I wish the ESO community would raise more of a stink about how terrible MagDK sustain is.

I voted MagDK just because it's been my main since Beta and I have lots of fun playing it. Though, currently it's weak.

Sabbathius · March 2018

Magicka

When I play a DK, it's almost always Magicka. Unless I'm PvE tanking, then it's a hybrid.

For one thing, I just love how the Dunmer racial synergizes with the fire-based Magicka DK. I absolutely love the visuals of mDK abilities, like its flappy wings, and whips and chains and stuff.

Never could get into stamina version, always found it too primitive and boring. Then again, I find stamina in general to be primitive and boring, magicka just gives you way more option due to sheer number of magicka-based abilities. Especially since they changed the attacks to green vomit. To me, sDK since then never looked like a Dragonknight, more like a puking frog. And about as threatening (in PvP). Having just two genuine stamina morphs, and both in the same tree (compared to 6 on NB, with each tree covered) is obviously a massive class design oversight. But the class is being largely ignored by the developers.

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