The new chapter.

drkfrontiers · March 2018

Mah pa always told me to be ahead of the curve. Whens there gonna be news, please - I'm terribly excited!

starkerealm · March 2018

Menelaos · March 2018

Oh, this is the part where ESO+ subscribers are screwed over, because a Chapter is a DLC but has to have another name than DLC so Zo$ can avoid the "All DLC is free" thingie and milk some extra coin?

Great.

mikemacon · March 2018

As an ESO+ sub, I’m perfectly happy with getting “free” DLC and paid “chapters”.

drkfrontiers · March 2018

Menelaos wrote: »

Oh, this is the part where ESO+ subscribers are screwed over, because a Chapter is a DLC but has to have another name than DLC so Zo$ can avoid the "All DLC is free" thingie and milk some extra coin?

Great.

not at all!

I fall into that category of ESO addict - what I was trying to express, albeit poorly I admit, is that no matter what ZoS come up with I will give them my support

jluchau · March 2018

mikemacon wrote: »

As an ESO+ sub, I’m perfectly happy with getting “free” DLC and paid “chapters”.

I absolutely agree and don't feel ripped off at all. The content offered in the Chapter we last got was, in my opinion, beyond the scope of a regular DLC.

VaranisArano · March 2018

jluchau wrote: »

mikemacon wrote: »

As an ESO+ sub, I’m perfectly happy with getting “free” DLC and paid “chapters”.

I absolutely agree and don't feel ripped off at all. The content offered in the Chapter we last got was, in my opinion, beyond the scope of a regular DLC.

Yes, but only because ZOS crammed together 3 DLCs (Morrowind zone, Battlegrounds, and the Warden Class) and called it a chapter so they didn't have to give ESO+ subscribers 3 DLC for free.

Menelaos · March 2018

VaranisArano wrote: »

Yes, but only because ZOS crammed together 3 DLCs (Morrowind zone, Battlegrounds, and the Warden Class) and called it a chapter so they didn't have to give ESO+ subscribers 3 DLC for free.

Yes, if I remember correctly, Zo$ said they'd provide 4 DLC a year, each of them free for ESO+ subscribers. Now they produce 3 DLC a year plus one Chapter, the latter of which has to be paid separately. So in that case they'd devalue an ESO+ subscription by 25%.

smacky · March 2018

Menelaos wrote: »

Oh, this is the part where ESO+ subscribers are screwed over, because a Chapter is a DLC but has to have another name than DLC so Zo$ can avoid the "All DLC is free" thingie and milk some extra coin?

Great.

None of the DLC in the game is free.

You either pay a monthly subscription and have access to it, or you buy it with crowns. You can choose to use the crowns from a sub to buy them, or you can choose to buy crowns.

I personally used my crowns to buy the banker and merchant, and they have added to my gameplay experience considerably.

I also have Morrowind, and it is a new introduction to the game, it has it's own storyline for Lord Vivec which takes a reasonable amount of time and effort to complete. It has houses which can only be bought if you have the chapter, and require substantial playtime, since you need the Saviour of Morrowind for the Amaya Lake Lodge for example.

It has 12 different daily missions available from Vivec City, and another 12 from the Ashlander quests, and I beleive 6 motif's which are exclusive to it, and therefore allow for you to make gold by selling those chapters to people who do not have the chapter.

With a group of 6 people it has potential to net you 24 daily missions, including the 6 World Bosses. It also includes 2 public dungeons, and a number of "tombs" which have a tonne of urns and you can repeatedly run through and usually always come out with at least 1 blueprint, usually at least 1 worth a few thousand.

As an eso plus subscriber, I am more than happy with that arrangement.

jedtb16_ESO · March 2018

Menelaos wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Yes, but only because ZOS crammed together 3 DLCs (Morrowind zone, Battlegrounds, and the Warden Class) and called it a chapter so they didn't have to give ESO+ subscribers 3 DLC for free.

Yes, if I remember correctly, Zo$ said they'd provide 4 DLC a year, each of them free for ESO+ subscribers. Now they produce 3 DLC a year plus one Chapter, the latter of which has to be paid separately. So in that case they'd devalue an ESO+ subscription by 25%.

well, no. you also get the free crowns.

and before anyone starts with 'the crowns aren't free you pay for them' nonsense. my sub is exactly the same price now as it was on day one when there were no crowns.

starkerealm · March 2018

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Menelaos wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Yes, but only because ZOS crammed together 3 DLCs (Morrowind zone, Battlegrounds, and the Warden Class) and called it a chapter so they didn't have to give ESO+ subscribers 3 DLC for free.

Yes, if I remember correctly, Zo$ said they'd provide 4 DLC a year, each of them free for ESO+ subscribers. Now they produce 3 DLC a year plus one Chapter, the latter of which has to be paid separately. So in that case they'd devalue an ESO+ subscription by 25%.

well, no. you also get the free crowns.

and before anyone starts with 'the crowns aren't free you pay for them' nonsense. my sub is exactly the same price now as it was on day one when there were no crowns.

Yeah, but you were back credited crowns for each month, back when they didn't provide any.

Rickter · March 2018

the fact taht its March and we havent even received an announcement is a little disheartening. Last year, we got an announcement roughly 5 months prior.

If we are to expect the same with this DLC Chapter, then that would put us at mid to the end of August at best.

gg.

jluchau · March 2018

Menelaos wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Yes, but only because ZOS crammed together 3 DLCs (Morrowind zone, Battlegrounds, and the Warden Class) and called it a chapter so they didn't have to give ESO+ subscribers 3 DLC for free.

Yes, if I remember correctly, Zo$ said they'd provide 4 DLC a year, each of them free for ESO+ subscribers. Now they produce 3 DLC a year plus one Chapter, the latter of which has to be paid separately. So in that case they'd devalue an ESO+ subscription by 25%.

Zos also said in the very beginning in order to even play the game ALL would pay a sub. That changed, things change... roll with the change. I feel I received good value for what I paid for, if you didn't then you should probably carefully consider any further purchases. But it doesn't make them wrong or evil or greedy for having a chapter each year that is larger then a normal DLC and charging for it. Thats a change they made. I wouldn't have wanted what came in Morrowind to be spread out into 3 separate quarter DLC's. Also, i'm pretty sure if they continue to offer Chapters as free DLC you would have just seen an increase to the price of ESO+. I like this way better because it gives people the choice if they want it or not. Just my opinion.

smacky · March 2018

starkerealm wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Menelaos wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Yes, but only because ZOS crammed together 3 DLCs (Morrowind zone, Battlegrounds, and the Warden Class) and called it a chapter so they didn't have to give ESO+ subscribers 3 DLC for free.

Yes, if I remember correctly, Zo$ said they'd provide 4 DLC a year, each of them free for ESO+ subscribers. Now they produce 3 DLC a year plus one Chapter, the latter of which has to be paid separately. So in that case they'd devalue an ESO+ subscription by 25%.

well, no. you also get the free crowns.

and before anyone starts with 'the crowns aren't free you pay for them' nonsense. my sub is exactly the same price now as it was on day one when there were no crowns.

Yeah, but you were back credited crowns for each month, back when they didn't provide any.

I know plenty of people for whom this is not true.

It may have been the case if you were playing before and during the transition, but if you left the game and came back, you most certainly did not get these back credited.

boombazookajd · March 2018

Personally, I don't want to hear a single thing about new content when the current content is broken. Not just "oh I didn't like the changes" broken, but crippling bugs still exist in the game.

For instance, this stamina/magicka resource drain bug.

So if ZOS took a year off of making more DLbugs and stopped releasing quarterly game breakers, GOOD! There's already so much content in this game it isn't funny.

If they can't even get a stupid update done without causing chaos, imagine what the supposed contents of Summerset will do to the game.

No thanks. Fix the game, fix the foundation of the dang house first, then add that new sun room and guest bedroom.

DaveMoeDee · March 2018

Menelaos wrote: »

Oh, this is the part where ESO+ subscribers are screwed over, because a Chapter is a DLC but has to have another name than DLC so Zo$ can avoid the "All DLC is free" thingie and milk some extra coin?

Great.

Meh. Not any more. Sure, it was a bait and switch last year. But not now. Everyone has know for a long time and has had plenty of opportunity to adjust.

If you ended your sub when Morrowind came and purchased all the DLC with crowns, yeah, they kinda took your money and then flipped the script, essentially making you pay twice for DLC (though 500 per for guild DLC sure was nice). If anyone wants to keep sub for inventory management or other perks, even after knowing the additional cost of chapters, they aren't being screwed at all.

jedtb16_ESO · March 2018

starkerealm wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Menelaos wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Yes, but only because ZOS crammed together 3 DLCs (Morrowind zone, Battlegrounds, and the Warden Class) and called it a chapter so they didn't have to give ESO+ subscribers 3 DLC for free.

Yes, if I remember correctly, Zo$ said they'd provide 4 DLC a year, each of them free for ESO+ subscribers. Now they produce 3 DLC a year plus one Chapter, the latter of which has to be paid separately. So in that case they'd devalue an ESO+ subscription by 25%.

well, no. you also get the free crowns.

and before anyone starts with 'the crowns aren't free you pay for them' nonsense. my sub is exactly the same price now as it was on day one when there were no crowns.

Yeah, but you were back credited crowns for each month, back when they didn't provide any.

um..... no, that's not true.

Mindcr0w · March 2018

Meh. I feel like I get enough value from my ESO subscription regardless of chapter costs.

starkerealm · March 2018

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Menelaos wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Yes, but only because ZOS crammed together 3 DLCs (Morrowind zone, Battlegrounds, and the Warden Class) and called it a chapter so they didn't have to give ESO+ subscribers 3 DLC for free.

Yes, if I remember correctly, Zo$ said they'd provide 4 DLC a year, each of them free for ESO+ subscribers. Now they produce 3 DLC a year plus one Chapter, the latter of which has to be paid separately. So in that case they'd devalue an ESO+ subscription by 25%.

well, no. you also get the free crowns.

and before anyone starts with 'the crowns aren't free you pay for them' nonsense. my sub is exactly the same price now as it was on day one when there were no crowns.

Yeah, but you were back credited crowns for each month, back when they didn't provide any.

um..... no, that's not true.

In fact, it was true. The payouts weren't nearly as good, though. I want to say it was something like 500 crowns for each month subscribed prior to ESO+. But, I can't find the news article right now.

QuebraRegra · March 2018

jluchau wrote: »

mikemacon wrote: »

As an ESO+ sub, I’m perfectly happy with getting “free” DLC and paid “chapters”.

I absolutely agree and don't feel ripped off at all. The content offered in the Chapter we last got was, in my opinion, beyond the scope of a regular DLC.

aside from the WARDEN class.. I'd like to disagree. Go look at Wrothgar DLC and get back to me.

MyKillv2.0 · March 2018

Menelaos wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Yes, but only because ZOS crammed together 3 DLCs (Morrowind zone, Battlegrounds, and the Warden Class) and called it a chapter so they didn't have to give ESO+ subscribers 3 DLC for free.

Yes, if I remember correctly, Zo$ said they'd provide 4 DLC a year, each of them free for ESO+ subscribers. Now they produce 3 DLC a year plus one Chapter, the latter of which has to be paid separately. So in that case they'd devalue an ESO+ subscription by 25%.

Zo$ was two faced on the issue. The company has been two faced MANY times, for instance with that same Morrowind release. They they told console players (ya know, 2/3s of the player base) that they would get the game on the same day as PC and then proceeded to give PC the game a week/ten days early, ya know... two faced stuff happens.

With that said, I have no issue with ESO+ format and am in the company that believes ESO is fine the way it is. Frankly, I am just happy they are not greedy and force us to purchase these mini DLCs every single time they are released.

pod88kk · March 2018

I just hope it works when its released, I spent a few hours swimming around Vivec's bloody palace looking for the entrance until the f*****g bridge finally loaded in and I could do the quest.... Then my game kept crashing when I'd travel there so I decided not to go there anymore.

So yeah waste of money in my eyes & but yeah I'll probably end up pre-ordering the next one too.

Chaos2088 · March 2018

Anyone have anymore news about the chapter?

That's what I came here for people -insert nose huff noise-

smacky · March 2018

starkerealm wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Menelaos wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Yes, but only because ZOS crammed together 3 DLCs (Morrowind zone, Battlegrounds, and the Warden Class) and called it a chapter so they didn't have to give ESO+ subscribers 3 DLC for free.

Yes, if I remember correctly, Zo$ said they'd provide 4 DLC a year, each of them free for ESO+ subscribers. Now they produce 3 DLC a year plus one Chapter, the latter of which has to be paid separately. So in that case they'd devalue an ESO+ subscription by 25%.

well, no. you also get the free crowns.

and before anyone starts with 'the crowns aren't free you pay for them' nonsense. my sub is exactly the same price now as it was on day one when there were no crowns.

Yeah, but you were back credited crowns for each month, back when they didn't provide any.

um..... no, that's not true.

In fact, it was true. The payouts weren't nearly as good, though. I want to say it was something like 500 crowns for each month subscribed prior to ESO+. But, I can't find the news article right now.

I would love to see this article you have mentioned, since neither I nor my friends got this mystery payout.

Pops_ND_Irish · March 2018

mikemacon wrote: »

As an ESO+ sub, I’m perfectly happy with getting “free” DLC and paid “chapters”.

Ditto

Malamar1229 · March 2018

I thought they announced today????

JD2013 · March 2018

Chaos2088 wrote: »

Anyone have anymore news about the chapter?

That's what I came here for people -insert nose huff noise-

Nope. Still no news.

Rosveen · March 2018

smacky wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Menelaos wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Yes, but only because ZOS crammed together 3 DLCs (Morrowind zone, Battlegrounds, and the Warden Class) and called it a chapter so they didn't have to give ESO+ subscribers 3 DLC for free.

Yes, if I remember correctly, Zo$ said they'd provide 4 DLC a year, each of them free for ESO+ subscribers. Now they produce 3 DLC a year plus one Chapter, the latter of which has to be paid separately. So in that case they'd devalue an ESO+ subscription by 25%.

well, no. you also get the free crowns.

and before anyone starts with 'the crowns aren't free you pay for them' nonsense. my sub is exactly the same price now as it was on day one when there were no crowns.

Yeah, but you were back credited crowns for each month, back when they didn't provide any.

um..... no, that's not true.

In fact, it was true. The payouts weren't nearly as good, though. I want to say it was something like 500 crowns for each month subscribed prior to ESO+. But, I can't find the news article right now.

I would love to see this article you have mentioned, since neither I nor my friends got this mystery payout.

When the game went B2P, we were all credited 500 crowns for having bought the game, 100 crowns for each month we were subcribed before the switch and 1500 crowns for each month left of our active subscription after the switch, rounded up to the nearest month (so you still got 1500 if you had less than a month left).

I don't have time to look for the article now, but if you want to find it, there should be some info from around February/March 2015.

Rosveen · March 2018

smacky wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Menelaos wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Yes, but only because ZOS crammed together 3 DLCs (Morrowind zone, Battlegrounds, and the Warden Class) and called it a chapter so they didn't have to give ESO+ subscribers 3 DLC for free.

Yes, if I remember correctly, Zo$ said they'd provide 4 DLC a year, each of them free for ESO+ subscribers. Now they produce 3 DLC a year plus one Chapter, the latter of which has to be paid separately. So in that case they'd devalue an ESO+ subscription by 25%.

well, no. you also get the free crowns.

and before anyone starts with 'the crowns aren't free you pay for them' nonsense. my sub is exactly the same price now as it was on day one when there were no crowns.

Yeah, but you were back credited crowns for each month, back when they didn't provide any.

um..... no, that's not true.

In fact, it was true. The payouts weren't nearly as good, though. I want to say it was something like 500 crowns for each month subscribed prior to ESO+. But, I can't find the news article right now.

I would love to see this article you have mentioned, since neither I nor my friends got this mystery payout.

When the game went B2P, we were all credited 500 crowns for having bought the game, 100 crowns for each month we were subcribed before the switch and 1500 crowns for each month left of our active subscription after the switch, rounded up to the nearest month (so you still got 1500 if you had less than a month left).

I don't have time to look for the article now, but if you want to find it, there should be some info from around February/March 2015.

starkerealm · March 2018

smacky wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

jedtb16_ESO wrote: »

Menelaos wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Yes, but only because ZOS crammed together 3 DLCs (Morrowind zone, Battlegrounds, and the Warden Class) and called it a chapter so they didn't have to give ESO+ subscribers 3 DLC for free.

Yes, if I remember correctly, Zo$ said they'd provide 4 DLC a year, each of them free for ESO+ subscribers. Now they produce 3 DLC a year plus one Chapter, the latter of which has to be paid separately. So in that case they'd devalue an ESO+ subscription by 25%.

well, no. you also get the free crowns.

and before anyone starts with 'the crowns aren't free you pay for them' nonsense. my sub is exactly the same price now as it was on day one when there were no crowns.

Yeah, but you were back credited crowns for each month, back when they didn't provide any.

um..... no, that's not true.

In fact, it was true. The payouts weren't nearly as good, though. I want to say it was something like 500 crowns for each month subscribed prior to ESO+. But, I can't find the news article right now.

I would love to see this article you have mentioned, since neither I nor my friends got this mystery payout.

In the FAQ linked off this article, I think. Though, for if you follow that link, you'll see why it's not particularly useful now.

Fortunately @Sirlacker, saved the text in a forum thread back then. Though it isn't free of editorializing, he fixes the, original crown payout at 500+100 per month subscribed. (So a total of 1500 if you qualified for the Senche.) Which may be correct. Though, my recollection is that it was somewhat higher than that.

Thal_J · March 2018

Rickter wrote: »

the fact taht its March and we havent even received an announcement is a little disheartening. Last year, we got an announcement roughly 5 months prior.

If we are to expect the same with this DLC Chapter, then that would put us at mid to the end of August at best.

gg.

morrowind was announced early because it was eso's first chapter, and ZOS wanted to capitalise on the nostalgia factor. this year is different because they're already selling a dungeon dlc, it would not make sense to be hyping both a dungeon dlc and a chapter at the same time marketing wise.

I think if they announce this month then they can still make the Q2 June release, with the same amount of PTS time as morrowind had. it'll also give dragon bones a lot of breathing room.