Path of Fire vs Morrowind.

RupzSkooma · March 2018

Which of these are better?
Which one you liked more ?
Which one has better content to pricing ratio?
I am not into MMORPG(exception is ESO) but I am asking to get the idea about what to expect from this genre.

Aliyavana · March 2018

Never heard of the first and you are posting in eso forums so answers will be biased

Yakidafi · March 2018

aliyavana wrote: »

Never heard of the first

DieAlteHexe · March 2018

aliyavana wrote: »

Never heard of the first and you are posting in eso forums so answers will be biased

It's latest version of Guild Wars 2. I had to look it up.

Danikat · March 2018

I'm logged into Guild Wars 2 and in a Path of Fire map right now, and even I took a few seconds to realise that's what you were asking about.

I'd have a very hard time deciding which I prefer, they're different expansions for different games. But if you're not into MMOs generally I wouldn't recommend buying a 2nd one. Even though both ESO and GW2 are quite casual games (relative to other MMOs) they can take up a lot of time and playing two may be too much.

But if you do want to try Guild Wars 2 I recommend making a free account first - that lets you see what the game is like without having to spend money on it. The expansion content isn't that different so if you don't like the base game you're not going to like the expansion either, but if you do like it then it's worth the money.

Seraphayel · March 2018

Path of Fire has like 10 times the content of Morrowind for the same price. What you find better is up to you. Overall Guild Wars PoF offers much more for the same amount of money.

DieAlteHexe · March 2018

Seraphayel wrote: »

Path of Fire has like 10 times the content of Morrowind for the same price. What you find better is up to you. Overall Guild Wars PoF offers much more for the same amount of money.

Seriously? Holy well, you know what. I'm still finding stuff to do in ESO. I think more might make my head blow up.

Seraphayel · March 2018

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Path of Fire has like 10 times the content of Morrowind for the same price. What you find better is up to you. Overall Guild Wars PoF offers much more for the same amount of money.

Seriously? Holy well, you know what. I'm still finding stuff to do in ESO. I think more might make my head blow up.

Yes, seriously. But you know what, I am playing ESO and not GW2. GW2 has no real long term appeal for me. Nevertheless, Path of Fire was top notch with 9 new specs, 5 gigantic new zones and a very interesting story. I think we musn't argue about the very bad price-content ratio of Morrowind.

DieAlteHexe · March 2018

Seraphayel wrote: »

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Path of Fire has like 10 times the content of Morrowind for the same price. What you find better is up to you. Overall Guild Wars PoF offers much more for the same amount of money.

Seriously? Holy well, you know what. I'm still finding stuff to do in ESO. I think more might make my head blow up.

Yes, seriously. But you know what, I am playing ESO and not GW2. GW2 has no real long term appeal for me. Nevertheless, Path of Fire was top notch with 9 new specs, 5 gigantic new zones and a very interesting story. I think we musn't argue about the very bad price-content ratio of Morrowind.

That almost sounds daunting!

Played GW a looooong time ago and whilst it had aspects that I really did like, overall, it was missing something. Now that was GW, not GW2 so I've no clue what it's like now. It's moot though, I'm really enjoying myself with ESO and will be here 'til I'm no longer enjoying it. Thanks for the info.

phermitgb · March 2018

Played GW2 before I came to ESO (although I WANTED ESO a lot more than I wanted GW2) - haven't played GW2 in awhile, but my comparative opinions of the two

GW2 - moment to moment combat is significantly FASTER than ESO. ESO is at a relatively "average" pace, as far as my own perception goes, GW2 goes by very quickly by comparison - of course, your perception of time and preference for speed may be different

gw2 - the complexity of combat - I think I liked the synergy between certain combat moves just a little bit better than ESO (even though overall I still prefer ESO combat overall) - by synergy, I mean that GW2 has a lot of skills that either lay down an "effect", or exploit an existing "effect" - it's a surprisingly intuitive system, but again, because of the really fast combat, you have a very short period of time to exploit those systems - still, it's quite interesting - but for the most part, I'd say the level of complexity as far as variation of skills and effects is mostly the same between ESO and GW2 - just differently flavored

gw2 vs eso crafting - both games made crafting easier than most other MMO's I've played - but I still find ESO crafting to be even easier, and a lot more OVERTLY functional. Again, IMO - ESO crafting, actually building a functional version of what you want is fairly easy and straightforward at most levels, and crafted sets are refreshingly easy to access and use for the most part

aesthetics - I'd say, and again, can't say this enough, this is all opinion - I'd say graphics in ESO are slightly more "realistic", and I mean this in just the way things look. Trees try harder to look like actual trees, dirt and rocks, etc - GW2 does have a slightly more "artsy" visual style - not WOW or SWTOR cartoony, but somewhere in between those and ESO.

movement - pound for pound, GW2 wins hands down in this particular category - in gw2 (at least on the machine I played on), movement was smooth, and surprisingly responsive - so responsive, in fact, that you can actually play platformer style puzzle dungeons, which is something I haven't been able to do really in any other MMO I've ever played. ESO movement, on the other hand, can be really wonky. collision off of rocks, walls, low fences can be obnoxiously silly, jumps aren't always responsive (classic hit jump button but nothing happens walk off precipice to your death kinda stuff)

character/equipment art-style - GW2 leans a lot more heavily in the exotic fantasy style - giant swords with extravagent swirly bits, glowing balls, flaming wings, etc...ESO is far more heavily designed around a more..."practical" style of artwork (generally) - it still has fantasy trappings, but it's overall going to look more like Lord of the Rings and less like...erm...can't think of a movie that looks like gw2...but hopefully you get some of the idea.

story - ESO has, by far, the best single player experience I've ever played in an MMO. GW2 doesn't come close, as far as I'm concerned in the story department. Neither in quality nor in quantity. SWTOR had some interesting designs and improvements as far as character responsiveness on story, but as far as the actual dramatic quality of most quests and whatnot, ESO is still far better. at some point, i'm going to stop reminding you that this is my opinion only, of course - just not yet

I'm starting to realize that there are a fairly large number of categories in which you can compare MMO's - I think I'm gonna stop here, unless you can think of a specific category you'd like to compare between the two

but yah, there's environment design (gw2 gets a little more ambitious but can also get a little "out there", ESO tends to stick to a slightly more grounded theme - again, lord of the rings makes a fairly good comparison for eso, whereas you'll get really extravagant environments in gw2, kinda like avatar), there's community, there's dungeons and group activities, a whole lot of ways to compare MMO's vs the things you like/don't like in MMO's

I rather liked gw2 for a lot of reasons, but hated a couple of basic design choices (combat too fast for me, and I hate, I Hate, I HATE guns and magitech in my fantasy), but ESO hit all my major sweet spots, so here I stay

ValkynSketha · March 2018

Gw2 pof as said have more content than morrowind, 5 new zones, 5 earnable mounts in game one of them require lenghtly buzzle and each mount have a purpose like horizontal/vertical long jump,floating, blinking, semi-flying, new specialization for each class, and of course you have good story, epic boss fights, and lots of replayable events and collectables.

eso_lags · March 2018

RupzSkooma wrote: »

Which of these are better?
Which one you liked more ?
Which one has better content to pricing ratio?
I am not into MMORPG(exception is ESO) but I am asking to get the idea about what to expect from this genre.

Well path of fire added 9 new elite specs for all 9 classes in gw2. On top of that it added 5 mounts, a feature that gw2 didnt have. Each are obtainable WITHOUT cash shop and each have a purpose when it comes to getting around. Also the path of fire story and new zones. Story was not as good as POF, but still decent. Also morrowind added battlegrounds, 2 pub dungeons, a trial, a few new sets (most not good), and a whole new class with the warden..

POF prob added a bunch of gear that im not aware of too.. I think content wise they are pretty close but i have played both and i was more satisfied with POF, and im a filthy casual with GW2. The warden was the only thing i really liked about morrowind. All elite specs in POF are great.. (an elite spec in GW2 is like adding a new spin off class of one of the 9 main classes in game, new skills etc.)

Idk, i liked morrowind for what it was. I did not and do not like the fact that the only mounts you can buy in game are 4 plain horses. Morrowind should have at least let you buy nix ox's from stables. But i liked the zone.
I think the difference here comes with the performance. Both had a lot of good things in it but GW2 performs a thousand times better than eso. I dont come across many bugs in gw2 and ive been playing it casually for a couple years and daily for the last couple months. Eso always had bugs. It always lags terribly. Pvp is nearly unplayable at prime times. Gw2 is the opposite. I like eso more when it works, but im more satisfied with gw2 because it performs 100 times better.

if you want to know what to expect, you should expect your game to work and updates that cost 30-40 bucks to have similar content. But it always depends on the game.

Linaleah · March 2018

its kinda funny when hearing people talk about combat in GW2 being smoother and more responsive. while i came back to it back when PoF was in open Beta and had those free trial weekends and it just felt... so... clunky... after ESO.

I will say one thing - GW2 is more punishing than ESO. you cannot just spam heals and mobs hit harder. its possible that it felt that way becasue i was rusty, but.. given that I'm barely mediocre at ESO and I always had more issues with gameplay and dying in GW2 even when it was my primary mmo - if you want more danger in your questing? GW2 will give you more of it vs ESO.

that said... after those weekends, I ended up not buying path of fire, not even when it was 50% off recently. I pre-ordered Morrowind and have no regrets about either of those things. but that's just me.

and yes, base game of GW2 is free with some restrictions, so might as well see for yourself.

AlnilamE · March 2018

I played PoF with my friends and got the mounts and finished the story.

Then I came back to pickpocketing and murdering people in ESO.

Both are nice games, both have a lot of things to do. It's a matter of preference.

If you have not played GW2 at all, you can get the free base game and see what you think.

wenchmore420b14_ESO · March 2018

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Path of Fire has like 10 times the content of Morrowind for the same price. What you find better is up to you. Overall Guild Wars PoF offers much more for the same amount of money.

Seriously? Holy well, you know what. I'm still finding stuff to do in ESO. I think more might make my head blow up.

They said more content than Morrowind, which is just a "Chapter" or a pricey DLC. They doen't mean more than ESO as a whole.

Seraphayel · March 2018

Linaleah wrote: »

its kinda funny when hearing people talk about combat in GW2 being smoother and more responsive. while i came back to it back when PoF was in open Beta and had those free trial weekends and it just felt... so... clunky... after ESO.

Guild Wars 2 combat clunky? It's the smoothest and most fluid combat you can find in any MMORPG. It's very complex, punishing and needs in depth knowledge about gameplay. ESO combat in comparison is very, very shallow (not bad though). Everything in GW2 feels and looks authenthic when it comes to combat because all animations work somehow together whereas in ESO every animation (animation cancelling says hello) is separated.

ParaNostram · March 2018

Seraphayel wrote: »

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Path of Fire has like 10 times the content of Morrowind for the same price. What you find better is up to you. Overall Guild Wars PoF offers much more for the same amount of money.

Seriously? Holy well, you know what. I'm still finding stuff to do in ESO. I think more might make my head blow up.

Yes, seriously. But you know what, I am playing ESO and not GW2. GW2 has no real long term appeal for me. Nevertheless, Path of Fire was top notch with 9 new specs, 5 gigantic new zones and a very interesting story. I think we musn't argue about the very bad price-content ratio of Morrowind.

Honestly GW2 has one thing I wish ESO had that tempts me over to their side every day. What is it?

*clears throat*

Necromancyyyyyy

DieAlteHexe · March 2018

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

Path of Fire has like 10 times the content of Morrowind for the same price. What you find better is up to you. Overall Guild Wars PoF offers much more for the same amount of money.

Seriously? Holy well, you know what. I'm still finding stuff to do in ESO. I think more might make my head blow up.

They said more content than Morrowind, which is just a "Chapter" or a pricey DLC. They doen't mean more than ESO as a whole.

Doh! Completely missed that or better put, my brain mistranslated. Thank you for straightening me out.

Linaleah · March 2018

Seraphayel wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

its kinda funny when hearing people talk about combat in GW2 being smoother and more responsive. while i came back to it back when PoF was in open Beta and had those free trial weekends and it just felt... so... clunky... after ESO.

Guild Wars 2 combat clunky? It's the smoothest and most fluid combat you can find in any MMORPG. It's very complex, punishing and needs in depth knowledge about gameplay. ESO combat in comparison is very, very shallow (not bad though). Everything in GW2 feels and looks authenthic when it comes to combat because all animations work somehow together whereas in ESO every animation (animation cancelling says hello) is separated.

it felt clunky and awkward to me. not smooth or responsive at all. could be the difference between what you are used to vs what you haven't played with in a while, for all i know. but then again i don't animation cancel.

and my comment is not about animations but rather feel of controls and my control over my character. in some ways, GW2 combat is easier as its a hybrid of action combat complete with dodge rolling and bar swapping of ESO and traditional mmo combat where you can click your skills if you wanted to, because your cursor is not centered by default - as well as sticky targeting. but it just felt... clunky to me.