new sorc bomber build?

Lynx7386 · March 2018

So apparently the new zaan monster set can actually proc on multiple targets at once using a heavy attack with overload active. Simultaneous crits on different targets with overload cause zaan's fire beam to start up on as many enemies as were crit by the same tick of your overload heavy.

So that has me thinking: magicka sorc with zaan, vicious death, and necropotence. Activate proxy det, overload, streak into the enemy zerg and heavy attack to proc zaan on as many targets as possible, then sit there spamming hardened ward so you can stay in fire beam range until people start exploding.

Would require dual wield or a shield to get the set bonuses all down but otherwise it sounds like a pretty effective zerg killer. Can also throw in liquid lightning and a volcanic rune from range before streaking in for good measure.

Thoughts?

Ley · March 2018

Clearly we need to nerf Sorcs.

DeadlyRecluse · March 2018

Ley wrote: »

Clearly we need to nerf Sorcs.

We're back here playing 2018 ESO, you on some next level ESO right there!

Minalan · March 2018

This... LOL this is a hilarious oversight!

How many months until they fix this set?!

Ley · March 2018

In all seriousness, I am curious to see if anyone pulls this build off successfully. I also wonder if this is intended or if it will be patched.

DeadlyRecluse · March 2018

Hey, at least overload heavies are useful now!

pieratsos · March 2018

You cant even bomb groups out of cloak with destro ult/soul tether with the amount of earthgore and heals going on these days unless the group is afk and you want to just go in their face and bomb them with overload heavy attacks and wait 5 seconds for Zaan to hopefully kill a couple of people. You seem to be very optimistic.

Danksta · March 2018

pieratsos wrote: »

You cant even bomb groups out of cloak with destro ult/soul tether with the amount of earthgore and heals going on these days unless the group is afk and you want to just go in their face and bomb them with overload heavy attacks and wait 5 seconds for Zaan to hopefully kill a couple of people. You seem to be very optimistic.

Maybe just use the overload to proc Zaan and then switch to destro ult to clean up? Still sounds a bit far fetched though.

Lynx7386 · March 2018

Tbh I hardly ever see earthgore being used in cyro (I play on ps4, so maybe it's because console players aren't able to do some of the vet content as easy without addons, I'm not sure). Obviously earthgore throws a wrench into any bomb build, but when it isn't present or is on cooldown I don't see this working too different from other bombers

pieratsos · March 2018

Danksta wrote: »

pieratsos wrote: »

You cant even bomb groups out of cloak with destro ult/soul tether with the amount of earthgore and heals going on these days unless the group is afk and you want to just go in their face and bomb them with overload heavy attacks and wait 5 seconds for Zaan to hopefully kill a couple of people. You seem to be very optimistic.

Maybe just use the overload to proc Zaan and then switch to destro ult to clean up? Still sounds a bit far fetched though.

Even if that was the idea to switch to destro ult, they will outheal the dmg and u will just melt anw. We are talking about 10-20+ people stacked up on top of you. There is only so much hardened ward can do.

Dracane · March 2018

Zaan has a 20% to proc, not when you crit. You are 3 months in the past dear.

WrathOfInnos · March 2018

So 20% of the time it procs on everything? Or when it procs 2/10 enemies in overload heavy get beam?

Lynx7386 · March 2018

Yea i'm not sure, i'll have to check in game. I was going off online info which says it procs 100% of the time on critical hits, but I didnt pay that much attention after picking it up.

I think now it's 20% of the time on light/heavy attacks, which still means overload can multi-proc it but not as reliably.

Lexxypwns · March 2018

What about lightning heavies?

@Waffennacht

Waffennacht · March 2018

It's not tied to crit, it's just a flat 20%

I can test about lightning heavies later tonight etc

Even if it does, unless it's a single %, the odds are pretty low to proc it on multiple enemies at once

I.e. if it's 20% per player in which the cooldown is not active it's pretty poor odds. But if it's a flat 20% for everything involved that's a completely different story.

Should be fairly easy to test tho

Lynx7386 · March 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

What about lightning heavies?

@Waffennacht

I dont think the additional enemies hit by lightning staff heavy attacks actually count as part of the heavy attack, they're additional damage tagged on by the passive.

Waffennacht · March 2018

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

What about lightning heavies?

@Waffennacht

I dont think the additional enemies hit by lightning staff heavy attacks actually count as part of the heavy attack, they're additional damage tagged on by the passive.

Might as well test it all

All I gotta do is find a mob and heavy attack them a few times to see. Same with overload.

Though.... I just don't see it being actually good.... Just funny AF.

If the peeps you hit move in different directions you're gonna lose the tethers and I just keep picturing the Sith Emperor just running around yelling power

Savos_Saren · March 2018

You know... I REALLY hate Sorcs... but I like the idea that it can happen. I say keep it! Let sorcs have a very unique, situational bomb like that.

Lynx7386 · March 2018

Waffennacht wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

What about lightning heavies?

@Waffennacht

I dont think the additional enemies hit by lightning staff heavy attacks actually count as part of the heavy attack, they're additional damage tagged on by the passive.

Might as well test it all

All I gotta do is find a mob and heavy attack them a few times to see. Same with overload.

Though.... I just don't see it being actually good.... Just funny AF.

If the peeps you hit move in different directions you're gonna lose the tethers and I just keep picturing the Sith Emperor just running around yelling power

I figure this'll mostly be useful for keep captures/defense and chokepoints like on bridges/walls. It's not going to be effective at all in the open (but no bomber build really is).

Jarryzzt · March 2018

I have to believe this is a bug and not a feature.

Which, to be sure, might end up being turned into a feature if ZOS deems it too time- and resource-consuming to fix.

In the meanwhile, this sounds stupidly good for PVE. Need to test...

Waffennacht · March 2018

On Xbox this does not occur.

Zaan will proc on only 1 target, after testing, you will not see Zaan proc on more than 1 target.

Unless there is a specific exploit in order to duplicate, I could not get Zaan to do multiple targets

WrathOfInnos · March 2018

I was trying this on PC NA as well. Overload heavy attacks on large groups and never saw more than one Zaan beam. Joke thread? Or is there some secret to making this work? It sounded like a fun niche build.

Seraphayel · March 2018

I don't even know why you guys think Zaan can proc to several targets at once. Where does it say that?

Nevertheless if it would the build sounds very funny.

Lynx7386 · March 2018

I came across another user saying they've gotten it to multiproc with overload heavies. It could have been on the pts though and got fixed in the transition to live, sorry guys maybe my info source here was bad =p

DeadlyRecluse · March 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

What about lightning heavies?

Waffennacht

Lightning heavies *shouldn't* as the damage from the triforce passive usually shows up as Triforce. And doesn't proc other "on heavy" conditions. Overload heavies are true AOE heavy attacks, though.

*shouldn''t* is not the same as doesn't, of course.

Morgul667 · March 2018

Is this confirmed though ?

kyle.wilson · March 2018

So many proctards in pvp again.
Makes me sad to see the majority of some peoples damage is coming from chance.

Morgul667 · March 2018

kyle.wilson wrote: »

So many proctards in pvp again.
Makes me sad to see the majority of some peoples damage is coming from chance.

The funny part is that is was not OK for the forum a while ago. And now time has passed, here comes some new sets and people find it OK.

I mean talk about goldfish memory

Lynx7386 · March 2018

kyle.wilson wrote: »

So many proctards in pvp again.
Makes me sad to see the majority of some peoples damage is coming from chance.

Hey, you work with what the game gives you.