Buff Overload heavy attack, but how?

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Edited by Araxyte on March 9, 2018 1:04PM
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Buff Overload heavy attack, but how? 27 votes

Buff AOE damage.
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jarydfBloodStormBeardimusAnti_VirusCompM4sJobooAGSSolaire 7 votes
Change heavy attack entirely (explain).
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AzuryaXvorgEmma_OverloadkylewwefanAraxyteMorgul667chiipsoNyassaVWildRaptorXCelestro 10 votes
Does not need buffing (lol).
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YakidafiMinalanPutSleep724FleetwoodSmackJackSmirkingRevengegetemshaunaofSunholdJXNwarriorAznox 10 votes
  • Araxyte
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    Change heavy attack entirely (explain).
    My suggestion is keep the heavy attack for un-morphed version/ magika gain morph but for the other morph replace the heavy attack with a charge up AOE DOT which pulses around you for x amount of time depending on how much ultimate you have.
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  • Izaki
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    Just change the way this ultimate works entirely... Not just the HA. Its basically a useless ultimate now, so instead of making it a toggle, just make it into an actual ult like the others. Since this will remove the 3rd bar from Sorcs, toggles will also need to be changed.
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  • Seraphayel
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    Well, my suggestion:

    a) morph 1: increase range of heavy attack by 100% and widen the cone

    b) morph 2: turn the heavy attack into a circular AoE around caster
    Edited by Seraphayel on March 9, 2018 1:35PM
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  • Maulkin
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    Izaki wrote: »
    Just change the way this ultimate works entirely... Not just the HA. Its basically a useless ultimate now, so instead of making it a toggle, just make it into an actual ult like the others. Since this will remove the 3rd bar from Sorcs, toggles will also need to be changed.

    That's quite unrealistic, it's not gonna happen.The class has 3 toggles at the moment. The only other class that has any is Warden and that is an ultimate.

    If they remove the 3rd bar they'll need to remove the toggles as you say. If they remove the toggle functionality from pets and bound armour, they'll need to redesign the skills and re-balance the whole class because pets would be too strong. That's a difficult and costly exercise to undertake with next to 0 benefits for ZOS.
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  • Lynx7386
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    I like overload, it just doesnt do enough damage to account for the fact that you're losing access to one of your skill bars/weapon swap while it's active along with weapon abilities.

    IMO, it should still function the same way, but not override weapon abilities (so you could still use things like elemental blockade with overload active). I would also say that it shouldnt have a third skill bar (it's an awesome feature, but really does hold the skill back), and should simply work in conjunction with your two weapon skill bars - but that also means that it would need to be double-barred, which causes even more issues, so that probably wont happen.

    Overall, I think if you could slot weapon skills on the overload bar (and use them)and if it did a little more damage it would be fine.

    I also think one of the morphs needs to be physical damage so stamsorcs can use it.
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  • kylewwefan
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    Change heavy attack entirely (explain).
    double the damage. It’s weak af. Light attacks do more damage.
  • Zer0oo
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    nerf overload light attacks? Isn't that how they balance things?
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  • Arciris
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    No "other" option?
    Don't mess with the Darth Sidious unlimited power animation!
    Buff damage or add some utility to it, maybe major protection while in heavy attack mode?
    Or just let it be and use it just for the fun of it :p
  • Aznox
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    Does not need buffing (lol).
    Has its niche uses in Cyrodiil, with the range morph you can hit a whole zerg and proc Zaan against multiple opponents.
    Not all abilities should be useful for everything, my opinion is don't touch it :)
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  • Aedaryl
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    Izaki wrote: »
    Just change the way this ultimate works entirely... Not just the HA. Its basically a useless ultimate now, so instead of making it a toggle, just make it into an actual ult like the others. Since this will remove the 3rd bar from Sorcs, toggles will also need to be changed.

    Overload is useless yeah, and no matter how much blobs videos will try to persuade people it's viable, it's just TRASH.

    I'm a pet sorc since a long time and I can tell you removing pets toggle will make them totaly overpowered.

    Magicka bound armor need some work, that's the only real toggle that need to be seriously looked.


    Sorc need a kind of lighning dawnbreaker or at least something not telegraphed, something strong at least in single target, and cheap.
  • Avran_Sylt
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    @Aznox

    Wait, is Zaan on a cooldown per enemy? Or is it bugged in that it can proc multiple times if there are multiple Crits on the Same Tick it's on cooldown?
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    Does not need buffing (lol).
    Hear my answer out:

    I’d like to lose the third bar entirely and let dual wield Sorcs cast overload as a spammable from whatever bar has the ultimate equipped. Just hit the ult key, and you can fire lightning light attacks until the ultimate is depleted.

    Mostly I just want to see dual wield Sorcs viable again. The elder scrolls battlemage template basically died since the class received nerf after nerf.


  • Azurya
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    Change heavy attack entirely (explain).
    looking back at times where my sorc could stand at any boss and burn it down with this..............
    that I want back!

    you felt like a god, coming to bring justice!!!!
  • Emma_Overload
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    Change heavy attack entirely (explain).
    They need to make it uninterruptible for one thing... it's a frickin' ULTIMATE.

    Secondly, they need to make it more effective, like maybe by having some secondary effect besides damage. How about a horrific 90% snare or healing debuff? It's about time Sorcs had access to the same cheesy debuffs as NBs and everyone else!
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  • Aznox
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    Does not need buffing (lol).
    Avran_Sylt wrote: »
    @Aznox

    Wait, is Zaan on a cooldown per enemy? Or is it bugged in that it can proc multiple times if there are multiple Crits on the Same Tick it's on cooldown?

    Can proc on multiple enemies at once (but they all share the same cooldown).
    One of my guildmates was procing it on 3-4 enemies during teamfights.
    Edited by Aznox on March 9, 2018 3:52PM
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  • NyassaV
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    Change heavy attack entirely (explain).
    Increase base range and radius
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  • Xvorg
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    Change heavy attack entirely (explain).
    Overload full heavy should be a channel and leave a mark like curse, that explodes after x secs

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    Just like that

    Of course, that channel should also cost some extra ulti
    Edited by Xvorg on March 9, 2018 6:27PM
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  • Celestro
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    Change heavy attack entirely (explain).
    Ultimate as a whole should be changed. Something like functioning with weapons as someone said. Simply modify light attacks to deal additional direct Shock damage, while heavy attacks deal additional AoE Shock damage.

    But most of all, allow them to proc Ultimate-related sets.
  • Araxyte
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    Change heavy attack entirely (explain).
    Minalan wrote: »
    Hear my answer out:

    I’d like to lose the third bar entirely and let dual wield Sorcs cast overload as a spammable from whatever bar has the ultimate equipped. Just hit the ult key, and you can fire lightning light attacks until the ultimate is depleted.

    Mostly I just want to see dual wield Sorcs viable again. The elder scrolls battlemage template basically died since the class received nerf after nerf.


    Ahh yeah the light attacks are fine, I'm on about buffing the heavy attacks.
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  • jarydf
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    Buff AOE damage.
    Just buff the heavy attack damage enough that you might consider using it occasionally.

    The animation is cool. The idea is cool it just needs to do enough damage that someone will do it for real occasionally rather than as a joke.

    I don't think it needs to be that hard.
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