I think your justification for such a change is a little lacking. You want it changed because you sometimes forget to activate it before entering combat and have to activate it then?

Because it's too powerful to simply be a while slotted bonus, and it'd be a pain in the arse having to recast it all the time.

Bound armaments gives 11% extra heavy attack damage, 5% extra stamina, 20% extra stamina and health recovery, and minor ward for my stamsorc - that's a lot of bonuses for something that could work while slotted without needing to be activated.

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Because it's too powerful to simply be a while slotted bonus, and it'd be a pain in the arse having to recast it all the time.

Bound armaments gives 11% extra heavy attack damage, 5% extra stamina, 20% extra stamina and health recovery, and minor ward for my stamsorc - that's a lot of bonuses for something that could work while slotted without needing to be activated.

8% on the stam bonus at max. I agree though.

My biggest frustration with the skill is that it can be toggled off while CCed, even when the skill bar is blacked out (which uses roughly 3k stam). Then I have to toggle it back on for the same cost.

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Because it's too powerful to simply be a while slotted bonus, and it'd be a pain in the arse having to recast it all the time.

Bound armaments gives 11% extra heavy attack damage, 5% extra stamina, 20% extra stamina and health recovery, and minor ward for my stamsorc - that's a lot of bonuses for something that could work while slotted without needing to be activated.

8% max stamina

It's activating when you unsheate your weapon cause you had it already activated then zoned. It's just reactivating again after you zoned. You only gotta hit it one time unless you die.

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Because it's too powerful to simply be a while slotted bonus, and it'd be a pain in the arse having to recast it all the time.

Bound armaments gives 11% extra heavy attack damage, 5% extra stamina, 20% extra stamina and health recovery, and minor ward for my stamsorc - that's a lot of bonuses for something that could work while slotted without needing to be activated.

The minor ward is meh IMHO, the 11% heavy attack bonus would be somewhat nice - but since the HA damage was nerfed and the Dks got 40% bonus for it, without needing to dual bar a toggle... so not that impressive.
The 8% stamina is good, but converting it into a skill line passive would be not something out of bounds IMHO - the stam and health recovery is a skill line passive too...

Anyway, some kind of redesign would be welcomed on my part.

jeskah wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Because it's too powerful to simply be a while slotted bonus, and it'd be a pain in the arse having to recast it all the time.

Bound armaments gives 11% extra heavy attack damage, 5% extra stamina, 20% extra stamina and health recovery, and minor ward for my stamsorc - that's a lot of bonuses for something that could work while slotted without needing to be activated.

The minor ward is meh IMHO, the 11% heavy attack bonus would be somewhat nice - but since the HA damage was nerfed and the Dks got 40% bonus for it, without needing to dual bar a toggle... so not that impressive.
The 8% stamina is good, but converting it into a skill line passive would be not something out of bounds IMHO - the stam and health recovery is a skill line passive too...

Anyway, some kind of redesign would be welcomed on my part.

But the problem is you are looking at all of these benefits as separate things. But they aren't separate. You get minor ward/resolve, 11% heavy attack bonus, and 8% stamina/magicka with this skill. All three things. Turning this into a passive and just supplying the max stam or max mag would defeat the purpose of the skill.

What I do think would be an interesting change is to have the stam/mag increase tied to just slotting the skill (like magelight) and have the ward/resolve/heavy attack bonus tied to the toggle.

It should be a passive. Innerlight is a passive. Why not bound aegis? It's annoying to forget to recast after a rez or having it fall off or the aforementioned ui bug where the animation disappears after every load screen.

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

I'm laughing at people thinking bound armaments is weak.

Sure Its a double slot, but Its whopping %8 extra max stam, %20 stam/hp regen, and extra damage on HA is just icing on it.

Its simply amazing for PvP , leaves so much room for crazy high damage builds that also have crazy high sustain.

The stam one is good because it give the passives from deadric summoning to stam sorc.

But the mag is really bad because mag sorc aleardy have the passive with hardened ward (and pets), 8% more magicka + minor resistances on mag sorc is trash for a double slots. Inner light give 7% max magicka, 2% magicka recovery, 10% more critical chance, 25% to the next attack when u activate it, reveal cloaking NB and it's one bar available.

Lord-Otto wrote: »

Yeah. MagNBs get the 8% for slotting a Siphoning ability - their main spammable happens to be one!
(-.-)

PvE sorcs only slot this because they have no better alternative. Crippling alone outperforms an 8% mag boost.
Every versatile PvP mag sorc also ignores this. Two slots are too much of a cost on our already strained bars. And Overload buils are very stiff and clunky, and IMO not competitive for normal Cyrodiil.
Don't care about stam sorc, frankly.

I would suggest letting it grant Minor Intellect, WHILE SLOTTED. Decent buff, mag sorcs really struggle with sustain, and no one wants Empowered Ward over Hardened. Could be used in PvE and PvP, would be worth slotting on two bars, but could be single-barred easily.
Activate to gain the purple aura and Minor Ward for 30 seconds. Good pre-cast, nice particle effect, can help with 1vX in PvP.

This isn't a bad idea, but I would prefer something more similar to twilight martriach and scamp :

The 8% more magicka and minor ward would be always there and the second press could be something active like a snare removal and immunity

Additional damage to light attacks would be a nice smaller, yet still relevant enough bonus I'd agree. As mentioned, DK's get a big 40% to heavy attacks for a single slot, on top of a Major buff (though not relevant to a StamDK). Certainly, Bound Armaments has a lot of small buffs that could make it a sufficient skill but compare it to the actual summons in the Daedric Summoning line. They similarly provide the Health and Stamina recovery from the passive, which isn't even entirely useless on magsorcs (well, health recovery is lol), so if you strip that away, you have 11% extra heavy attack damage, 8% max stamina and Minor Ward versus a pet that continually deals damage with basic attacks and has a special ability attached to it that provide substantial effects. A magsorc is able to take any skill in that skill line, while a stamsorc is really shoehorned into that skill, excluding the ultimate that can be hit and miss with its use even if it deals more damage than Ballista and maybe the Clannfear if you're trying to be a tank which it was changed to not even be effective for that, so. Can't help but seem underwhelming despite being made specifically for the stamsorc, no?

The skill could really use something else. Even treating it as a a "pet" for the purposes of the additional Health passive, as suggested in some other threads, would be decently substantial I'd say. Kind of emphasizes the 'tankiness' attributed to sorcs, with mag with their larger shields and additional health and stam with their constant use of Hurricane supplying Major Ward and Resolve. However, I'm much more for making it a singular usable skill or having an activated effect like scamp/ and twilight pets.