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Alcast Magblade PvE build question.
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this build
https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-nightblade-build-pve/
why does he use swallow soul vs funnel health??? does swallow soul get more damage at rank IV???
https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-nightblade-build-pve/
why does he use swallow soul vs funnel health??? does swallow soul get more damage at rank IV???
PvP needs more love.
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weg0✭✭✭Yeah, swallow soul is stronger self-heal and more damage. Funnel health adds some group utility by healing person closest to mob.
Edit: sorry, they do the same damage. I was mistaken. But you do get more healing because slotting swallow soul gives Minor vitality.Edited by weg0 on March 6, 2018 7:51PM1 -
Runefang✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Fairly certain that swallow soul and funnel health do equal damage. You really should slot funnel health to help your group generally.1 -
Merlin13KAGL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I suspect you could always ask @Alcast ...after all, it is his build...Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
IRL'ing for a while for assorted reasons, in forum, and in game.I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS1 -
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✭✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »I suspect you could always ask @Alcast ...after all, it is his build...
@Alcast why do you use swallow soul instead of funnel health?PvP needs more love.0 -
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✭✭✭They do he same damage. You can just check it with the add-on without respec’ing.
For vMA Swallow Soul. For trials or vDSA, Funnel.EU | PC | AD1 -
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✭✭They do he same damage. You can just check it with the add-on without respec’ing.
For vMA Swallow Soul. For trials or vDSA, Funnel.
ps4 so no add-ons, but I'll take your word for it. I figured funnel wouldnt be that much worse but you never know, maybe it has some secret scaling and it gets an extra 1k or 2k on the tooltip lolPvP needs more love.0 -
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This site is your friend.They do he same damage. You can just check it with the add-on without respec’ing.
For vMA Swallow Soul. For trials or vDSA, Funnel.
ps4 so no add-ons, but I'll take your word for it. I figured funnel wouldnt be that much worse but you never know, maybe it has some secret scaling and it gets an extra 1k or 2k on the tooltip lol
It will let you compare tooltips point for point to give you an idea if/how a particular morph compares to another. As mentioned, I suspect he's going for the more self-heals, vs the group heals.
Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
IRL'ing for a while for assorted reasons, in forum, and in game.I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS1 -
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✭✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »
This site is your friend.They do he same damage. You can just check it with the add-on without respec’ing.
For vMA Swallow Soul. For trials or vDSA, Funnel.
ps4 so no add-ons, but I'll take your word for it. I figured funnel wouldnt be that much worse but you never know, maybe it has some secret scaling and it gets an extra 1k or 2k on the tooltip lol
It will let you compare tooltips point for point to give you an idea if/how a particular morph compares to another. As mentioned, I suspect he's going for the more self-heals, vs the group heals.
Wow, I have used the build editor but I never saw that before. Hmm, I will definitely utilize it next time. Thanks!PvP needs more love.0 -
exiars10✭✭✭✭He uses Swallow Soul because of Minor Vitality and he uses it on Nighblade Tank, too.
Gilliamtherogue uses Funnel Health as it helps additional player.
Choose what you prefer.Aldmeri Dominion (PC EU via Steam)
The cowardly Wood Elves are best noted for their unwillingness to engage in a face-to-face attack; a Bosmer will strike at you from every side except the front. You won't cross swords with a Bosmer, but you might catch an arrow in the throat. Be wary in forests and jungles, and watch your back.0 -
Aleraon✭✭✭✭If I remember rightly the damage aspect of swallow soul doesn't scale with rank whereas it does with funnel health(EU/AD) CP501 Razum-dah - Khajiiti Templar Healer
(EU/AD) CP501 J'Kara Silverclaw - Khajiiti Dragonknight tank
(EU/AD) CP501 Rajhiin - Khajiiti stamina Nightblade
(EU/AD) CP501 Draven Corvillian - Breton magicka Nightblade
(EU/AD) CP501 Sinderian Nightflame - High Elf magicka sorcerer
(EU/AD) CP501 J'zargo Silverclaw - Khajiit stamina Templar
(EU/AD) CP501 Ariella Nightshade - High Elf Magicka Nightblade
(EU/AD) CP501 Ri'shada - Khajiit Stamina Sorcerer
(EU/AD) LVL29 Valeon Indoril - Dark Elf Magicka Dragonknight
*The Queen stole this one's moonsugar candies lol*0 -
Berenhir✭✭✭✭✭
✭If I remember rightly the damage aspect of swallow soul doesn't scale with rank whereas it does with funnel health
You do not remember rightly.PC EU - Ebonheart Pact - Gray Host - Death Recap -#zergfarming -1 -
SmellyUnlimited✭✭✭✭Well if Magblade is better off running Funnel Health for team utility, why not run Refreshing Path over twisted?DO. NOT. WIPE. (in game OR out!)0 -
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✭SmellyUnlimited wrote: »Well if Magblade is better off running Funnel Health for team utility, why not run Refreshing Path over twisted?
Because in contrast to the strife choice, refreshing path is a small damage loss.PC EU - Ebonheart Pact - Gray Host - Death Recap -#zergfarming -0 -
exiars10✭✭✭✭Because both Swallow Soul and Funnel Health do the same damage. It's about utility.
Twisting Path does more damage than Refreshing Path and in larger coronal area. There is no comparison at all. One for DD, other for healer and tank.Aldmeri Dominion (PC EU via Steam)
The cowardly Wood Elves are best noted for their unwillingness to engage in a face-to-face attack; a Bosmer will strike at you from every side except the front. You won't cross swords with a Bosmer, but you might catch an arrow in the throat. Be wary in forests and jungles, and watch your back.1 -
exiars10✭✭✭✭Because both Swallow Soul and Funnel Health do the same damage. Difference is in utility.
Twisting Path does more damage than Refreshing Path and in larger coronal area. There is no comparison at all. One for DD, other for healer and tank.Edited by exiars10 on March 7, 2018 12:11AMAldmeri Dominion (PC EU via Steam)
The cowardly Wood Elves are best noted for their unwillingness to engage in a face-to-face attack; a Bosmer will strike at you from every side except the front. You won't cross swords with a Bosmer, but you might catch an arrow in the throat. Be wary in forests and jungles, and watch your back.1 -
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✭✭SmellyUnlimited wrote: »Well if Magblade is better off running Funnel Health for team utility, why not run Refreshing Path over twisted?
If you're running 3 DD and 1 Tank its a good point. Magblades make great off-heals since they just do it as part of their normal rotation (with the right morphs of course).
Otherwise the higher damage of Twisting Path is preferred.0 -
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✭SmellyUnlimited wrote: »Well if Magblade is better off running Funnel Health for team utility, why not run Refreshing Path over twisted?
In the past this was an excellent choice as the damage difference was pretty small. However, a little over a year ago, when mNB was in the pits DPS wise, the decision was made to buff the damage of twisting path. At that tim,e both refreshing and twisting were really weak DOT's but refreshing had a pretty substantial HOT and a lot of mNB's (myself included) thought the utility far worth the trade off. Only twisting was buffed in damage with the change though and I believe they actually ended up buffing it twice. The result is that twisting is now a pretty solid DOT and refreshing is too far behind for it's utility to be worth going with that morph. It is used some in vMA and I suspect also in PVP if there are any magic toons left running in an AOE zerg ball. I don't think anybody runs it in trials though.
There was a time that my heals per second on my mNB was actually not far from my dps. Now it is a very long way indeed. The utility function of an mNB is pretty minimal if not nonexistant today. In times in the past it's veil for mitigation, and / or passive heals, were quite substantial. You know, same old, same old, Wrobel makes things more similar and less interesting and still can't balance anything.I am currently worried for the future of ESO. Population seems like it is in free fall and the cancellation of the North America in-person gathering feels very much like pulling the plug. Kudos on fixing the in-game economy though. Clearly whatever gold shenanigans were happening the last couple years are fixed.0