Heavy Attacks Not Firing - Patch 3.3.8 (Tested with DW Stamina and Lightning Magicka on PC EU)

Altyrann · March 2018

I am seeing a consistent issue with heavy attacks simply not firing when holding down the left mouse button.

Specifically, this issue can be seen when going from weaving light attacks to holding down the button for a heavy attack. It seems that about 50% of the time nothing happens.

If I then release the left button and hold it down again I can fire off a heavy attack, but it will then stall again, i.e. after the next ability I will not go back to heavy attacking despite still holding the left mouse button. This seems to be fixed only when I bar swap.

This has been an issue for many many many patches, but since it didn't seem to be captured along with some of the (seemingly quite effective) fixes on other combat issues, I wanted to raise this again.

Mureel · March 2018

Altyrann wrote: »

I am seeing a consistent issue with heavy attacks simply not firing when holding down the left mouse button.

Specifically, this issue can be seen when going from weaving light attacks to holding down the button for a heavy attack. It seems that about 50% of the time nothing happens.

If I then release the left button and hold it down again I can fire off a heavy attack, but it will then stall again, i.e. after the next ability I will not go back to heavy attacking despite still holding the left mouse button. This seems to be fixed only when I bar swap.

This has been an issue for many many many patches, but since it didn't seem to be captured along with some of the (seemingly quite effective) fixes on other combat issues, I wanted to raise this again.

Have experienced same!

Altyrann · March 2018

Many guildies are seeing the same thing as well.

I have really enjoyed making builds that integrate heavy attacks but this makes it a fairly joyless affair unfortunately.

SupremeRissole · March 2018

Same issue on xbox Na. In fights like rakkhat I'll be lucky to get one rotation with all my heavy attacks going off.

Notice how bar swapping cancels it.

Altyrann · March 2018

Have you seen anything else consistently causing / fixing it? Trying to narrow down any potential workaround until it is fixed properly.

Vapirko · March 2018

That sucks! I haven’t seen this bug on PC NA for a while. Will test it soon. Has it been happening in all types of combat (pvp, PvE and target skeleton?)

Tyavari · March 2018

I'm also experiencing the exact same issues, especially on my dual wield bar on my stamina Sorcerer. As soon as I swap over to start weaving on the DW bar, holding down the button to start the attack once I've swapped, my character just stands there doing nothing until I use a skill, release the button and start it again.

If I then release the left button and hold it down again I can fire off a heavy attack, but it will then stall again, i.e. after the next ability I will not go back to heavy attacking despite still holding the left mouse button. This seems to be fixed only when I bar swap.

Also had a lot of this happening as well. It's becoming very frustrating.

It gets extremely bad in trials as well, especially with the terrible performance in most fights.

I'm on PC/EU.

NyassaV · March 2018

This has legit been around forever. Bar Swap for a temp fix

Slick_007 · March 2018

retreating manuever still has issues as well. same as before the patch, sometimes you just flap your arms like a chicken and nothing happens

Altyrann · March 2018

Hollery wrote: »

This has legit been around forever. Bar Swap for a temp fix

Bar swap does indeed clear the issue, but that's just possible without hurting damage badly mid fight.

Even worse, when stacked in trials etc. you often can't see your character very clearly so sometimes won't even see that your character is just standing there doing nothing rather than heavy attacking. This is especially painful on a stamsorc with hurricane running making it even harder to see!

JXNwarrior · March 2018

can confirm happens on PS4 as well, has been for ~year

pls fix

SupremeRissole · March 2018

Last patch I thought that ulti's were related as my stamplar saw the issue a lot more often than stam dk. But this patch im not so sure, getting the issue regardless of ults, and frequently in laggy instances like MoL.

SupremeRissole · March 2018

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Is the team working on such an annoying ongoing issue?

Own · March 2018

It is a legit issue. It seems that recently doing damage to the target guarantees a follow-up HA landing, but opening with HA and using HA after a short combat downtime can just blatantly miss. Mainly when you hit a skill while holding HA.

SASQUATCH0 · March 2018

This. Didn’t mean to start another post about this. Should used the search engine

Altyrann · March 2018

@ZOS_GinaBruno - any chance of this being looked at?

SASQUATCH0 · March 2018

This is still happening. Every. Parse. I don’t even see the point in trying to test

GreenhaloX · March 2018

Yeah, been times I'm holding down for the heavy staff lightning attack, but attack not going off.. or missing/not striking the target, but hitting some poor other squirrel, or rabbit or bug nearby instead. Also, aside from staff, I can't remember how long this has been going on, but it has been going on for a long while now. I swing with a heavy attack with the greatsword, but (here and there) it seems to completely miss or not do any damage on the target. How does a big swing from a big arse greatsword miss or not do any damage? Is the add/target wearing Blessed armor or something? Also, been going on for a long while is animation missing from adds hitting you with Dizzying Swing. You're engage one add that has a greatsword or in a group of adds, but all of sudden, you get knocked over hard by a Dizzying Swing, and you didn't even see the add perform that swing. Surely, if you see it coming, you can easily block or roll/dodge. Seems like adds are capable of animation cancelling too or something.

SASQUATCH0 · April 2018

@ZOS_GinaBruno can we please get this fixed.

the_other_Alice · June 2018

It´s an older thread but needs to be brought back to attention I guess, cause asking around a lot of ppl are still complaining and suffering from this - including me now since summerset - even if a lot of folks will only use it for ressources it eats up way too much time in a rotation.. this needs to be fixed asap (daydreaming I know^^)

jroc699_burr · June 2018

Can confirm my light and HEavy attacks are off PS4 NA

Jerkling · June 2018

can confirm PC-EU, most prominent (for me) on lightning staff heavy attacks

Own · June 2018

This is happening a lot post update with 2h for me, although it was always happening. I have such a big issue having heavy attacks actually land with 2h backbar. Mostly with animation canceling HA just like any rotation.

I don't think 2h has been fixed because pve dps's don't use it normally.

Moloch1514 · June 2018

Seeing this on both Restoration and Lightning staff. @ZOS_GinaBruno

DanteYoda · June 2018

Same here..

What ever they changed really messed something up badly.. Continually running out of magicka too at random times.. not always but it seems completely random.

Tagonius · June 2018

It is still bugged for me on PC with gamepad.

Tsar_Gekkou · July 2018

Still having this problem on Xbox.

Excaltic · July 2018

Confirming I still have this on Xbox One too

Lightning / Restoration staves heavy attacks not working 33% of the time while trigger is fully pressed.

Mystrius_Archaion · July 2018

More info in this post and the post linked to from it on the PTS boards so may want to continue discussion here:
Heavy Attacks with Restoration and Lightning Staves Still Have Issues Firing

That pretty much applies to any heavy attacks from any weapon but most severely affects those staves because they work differently.