Hate it. Agony was useless but this is only marginally more useful in very specific circumstances.

TBH at the very least it should smart-target low health allies in your party or nearby. It should not be a manually targeted heal, that was the worst decision they could've made for ANY healing ability in this game. If it was a smart target like breath of life or ward ally then I might actually use it here and there, but as is I'll never even bother slotting it.

I really wish it would have been a burst heal instead, without costing health. The nightblade is supposed to siphon others' health, not use his own. Really it should've been something like vampiric drain but sending the healing to a low health ally (or yourself if you're solo or lowest-health).

Imagine that, you cast the ability and a stream of blood leaps from the enemy target to one of your low health allies, quickly restoring their health (a 1-2 second ability that restores a good measure of health, along the lines of breath of life but for one target). The limitation being that it requires an enemy target, obviously, keeping with the offensive theme of nightblade healers.

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Hate it. Agony was useless but this is only marginally more useful in very specific circumstances.

TBH at the very least it should smart-target low health allies in your party or nearby. It should not be a manually targeted heal, that was the worst decision they could've made for ANY healing ability in this game. If it was a smart target like breath of life or ward ally then I might actually use it here and there, but as is I'll never even bother slotting it.

I really wish it would have been a burst heal instead, without costing health. The nightblade is supposed to siphon others' health, not use his own. Really it should've been something like vampiric drain but sending the healing to a low health ally (or yourself if you're solo or lowest-health).

Imagine that, you cast the ability and a stream of blood leaps from the enemy target to one of your low health allies, quickly restoring their health (a 1-2 second ability that restores a good measure of health, along the lines of breath of life but for one target). The limitation being that it requires an enemy target, obviously, keeping with the offensive theme of nightblade healers.

I didn't think about that, it would definitely make that ability a much better way to use it. It is a nightblade somewhat... Emergency heal and having more hots shouldn't be a problem imo. Stacking hots with spc? Bring it on.

Allow it to cleanse a DOT or two and it might be worth using.

Strongest single target hot in the game that gives NB healers 100 percent minor mending uptime on top of the siphoner passive. For pve, it is a strong tank cushion heal while netting you the highest hps of any healer, which when your primary source of healing is hots, hps becomes much more valuable than on a templar or warden.

In pvp, it has very limited use. Pretty much only strong on an argonian 5h magblade healer/brawler esque setups in CP enabled environments.

Useless, it is not, however.

exeeter702 wrote: »

Strongest single target hot in the game that gives NB healers 100 percent minor mending uptime on top of the siphoner passive. For pve, it is a strong tank cushion heal while netting you the highest hps of any healer, which when your primary source of healing is hots, hps becomes much more valuable than on a templar or warden.

In pvp, it has very limited use. Pretty much only strong on an argonian 5h magblade healer/brawler esque setups in CP enabled environments.

Useless, it is not, however.

I don't disagree that its a strong heal, my main issue with it is the targeting. If it was a frontal smart target heal, it would be usable. As is, you can't rely on it to hit the target you need it on.

It's an awful ability that only scales with magicka. They removed a utility skill (Agony) that could be used by anyone for another HoT that can't be used by stamblades (unless they are trying to die).

I didn't even want to waste skill point on this

Only ever used this skill to heal and grind up my friend's new characters in skyreach when it was just one other person and I. It's a very nice HoT, but that health cost is lame.

When I did use it, it wasn't even necessary - just had it on my bar to level.

ascan7 wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

Because in eso, there aren't any enemies strong enough to need long term cc, except for maybe bosses which can't be ccd anyways.

In wow, every enemy in a pull could easily stomp a dps or healer, and most of the time tanks couldn't survive fighting 6 enemies at once, so you used skills like polymorph and sap to knock out a couple and the tank handled the rest.

Eso is all about aoe burning groups of enemies and not ever using cc.

I was thinking from a PvP point of view, mostlyBut you are quite right

Regarding pvp, it doesnt work here because of crowd control immunity and how its uptime is tied directly to stamina as opposed to measurable CD availability (ie trinket). It works in games like wow and swotr because of diminishing returns and the player having to make educated decisions on what to cc break and what to sit in. In eso if you have the stam for break free, rarely are there scenarios where you are better off sitting in the CC. And if you dont have the stam, your dead either way.

This why sap and such in wow work. The entire strategy revolves around what to cc break and when vs eso where its far more brain dead and long CCs that break from damage like agony were a detriment because you only served to grant them immunity and if they didnt have stam for break free, kill combos rarely worked because they are free the second a weed tickles their ankle.