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✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »@lexxypwns
Paper and practice are totally different beasts.
Nightblades i would argue have about the same "burst" as a sorc. But sorc has more survivability since the more damage they have by boosting magicka the more damage they have. even if stamina NB had MORE it still cripples our survivability by getting to that point witch means more micro managing resources which most people suck at.
stamina NB has the same healing as every other stamina class, so maybe youre talking about magicka? I didn't realize we were debating about them.
shadow image sure is great if you're magicka or drop cloak. most stamina players don't use it since we need magicka for cloak and fear. i think ive seen 1 stamina nb in a year using it. (surprisingly it was this weekend lol) if your magicka it can be good, but i still rarely see people use it efficiently since its telegraphed and everyone knows where you're going. where every sorc and their mother can shield and streak with stun applied
and i would also argue any class can gank well except maybe sorc, they can but not as proficient.
--like i said nightblade are good if you can use it right but everything your saying is an opinion which lots of people wouldn't agree with. you're welcome to your own opinion but just don't pretend like its fact and put people down when they have a different one.
like i said before you can make any class look good on paper, but choosing to ignore that everything you said mostly applied to magicka nb and most people would agree that magicka nb is the hardest class in pvp aside from perma cloaking (not fighting) and talking about skills that yeah sound good but in practice most people just suck with them and there is a EASIER alternative in other classes, i still feel the same way. NB's are really good in the right hands, and not so good in most hands.
same goes for all classes, they can all be good in the right hands, some just are easier for newer players
Stamblade has superior self healing to all but stam warden and DK among stam specs and superior healing to every single non-Templar/NB magika spec. The ability to use cloak to force all your heals to crit means you have an on demand healing buff of AT LEAST 1.6...
But the ability to engage/disengage means that it’s hard to lose a fight, that’s what makes NB one of, if not the easiest class to play at a high level
@Lexxypwns
lol well if one 1.6k crit heal makes us easy and not 20k shield stacking and perma roots and huge burst heals and cheap healing ulits... well you win :-P #KhajiitOP
and idk i can disengage on my stamsorc just as easy. but.... anyways..
I’m done, you obviously aren’t able to understand the mechanics I’m speaking on
The crit Cloak morph is actually so overpowered that a single dot tick on your opponent consumes the free crit which makes that morph pretty much useless for anyone who has a dot in his/her build (having access to 8% less inc damage is far more powerful in that case). Next time when you try to degrade someone who posts a build video you should inform better.
Edited by Ragnaroek93 on February 26, 2018 10:30PMI used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.4 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ragnaroek93 wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »@lexxypwns
Paper and practice are totally different beasts.
Nightblades i would argue have about the same "burst" as a sorc. But sorc has more survivability since the more damage they have by boosting magicka the more damage they have. even if stamina NB had MORE it still cripples our survivability by getting to that point witch means more micro managing resources which most people suck at.
stamina NB has the same healing as every other stamina class, so maybe youre talking about magicka? I didn't realize we were debating about them.
shadow image sure is great if you're magicka or drop cloak. most stamina players don't use it since we need magicka for cloak and fear. i think ive seen 1 stamina nb in a year using it. (surprisingly it was this weekend lol) if your magicka it can be good, but i still rarely see people use it efficiently since its telegraphed and everyone knows where you're going. where every sorc and their mother can shield and streak with stun applied
and i would also argue any class can gank well except maybe sorc, they can but not as proficient.
--like i said nightblade are good if you can use it right but everything your saying is an opinion which lots of people wouldn't agree with. you're welcome to your own opinion but just don't pretend like its fact and put people down when they have a different one.
like i said before you can make any class look good on paper, but choosing to ignore that everything you said mostly applied to magicka nb and most people would agree that magicka nb is the hardest class in pvp aside from perma cloaking (not fighting) and talking about skills that yeah sound good but in practice most people just suck with them and there is a EASIER alternative in other classes, i still feel the same way. NB's are really good in the right hands, and not so good in most hands.
same goes for all classes, they can all be good in the right hands, some just are easier for newer players
Stamblade has superior self healing to all but stam warden and DK among stam specs and superior healing to every single non-Templar/NB magika spec. The ability to use cloak to force all your heals to crit means you have an on demand healing buff of AT LEAST 1.6...
But the ability to engage/disengage means that it’s hard to lose a fight, that’s what makes NB one of, if not the easiest class to play at a high level
@Lexxypwns
lol well if one 1.6k crit heal makes us easy and not 20k shield stacking and perma roots and huge burst heals and cheap healing ulits... well you win :-P #KhajiitOP
and idk i can disengage on my stamsorc just as easy. but.... anyways..
I’m done, you obviously aren’t able to understand the mechanics I’m speaking on
The crit Cloak morph is actually so overpowered that a single dot tick on your opponent consumes the free crit which makes that morph pretty much useless for anyone who has a dot in his/her build (having access to 8% less inc damage is far more powerful in that case). Next time when you try to degrade someone who posts a build video you should inform better.
Why are people talking about attacks?
Lexxy said it makes every HEAL crit, and if you're in control of your character you then can make sure you don't have any dots running to consume the crit.
I think you guys missed the point where it makes every HoT a critical heal
Edit: and no the heals do not consume itEdited by Waffennacht on February 26, 2018 11:42PM0 -
magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭@Waffennacht it doesnt make every heal crit, it makes the next attack/heal crit once0 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »@Waffennacht it doesnt make every heal crit, it makes the next attack/heal crit once
False. If no attacks crit then the buff doesn’t get used up so all heals crit0 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I just spent the last like 40 min trying to find the posted video where all the heals crit
Was it @Minno or @Minalan ... Hrmm... I know it's in your posting history somewhere @Lexxypwns0 -
magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭ill test it tonight but i would imagine if that's the case right now that's not intended
EDIT: it should be a super easy test
EDIT again: i just tested it and yup it crits all the heal tics while stealth, which i dont think should be happening. it should just be attacks. that being said if you have any dot going that stops. so your poison injection does stop this. so you dont get any real benefit since we as NB USUALLY star the fight so we have our poison injection up. but im sure there are cases where you wouldn't.
so it should deffinitely be looked at but its not really helpful to us so i imagine its nto a big priority for zosEdited by magictucktuck on February 27, 2018 1:16AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »ill test it tonight but i would imagine if that's the case right now that's not intended
It’s been this way for a long long time and I’ll explain why.
When using shadowy disguise you’re given a hidden 100% buff to crit chance. This buff disappears upon ANY registered damage(this is a bug and should only get used up on direct damage). But if there’s no instances of damage then the buff remains until duration expires. Now, the easiest way to test this is cast malevolent offering twice then cloak and watch the heals crit.
Also, sorry if my other posts came across as attacking you, I had a bit of a frustrating morning and was fed up trying to explain thisEdited by Lexxypwns on February 27, 2018 1:15AM0 -
magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Yeah @Waffennacht to the rescue!
lol yeah yeah! it my defense we were both right! it is a bug that should be fixed but its useless in combat!!!! leave me some dignity!2 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »@Waffennacht it doesnt make every heal crit, it makes the next attack/heal crit once
False. If no attacks crit then the buff doesn’t get used up so all heals crit
^^^ This is correct, the crit ‘attack’ usually happens though when a DOT is on your target.
But.. if there is no DOT and you didn’t attack anyone, welcome to cloaked vigor crit-heal land. Population: YOU!
It’s a bug, but they need to just make it a feature already since good nightblades already know how to use it, and they depend on it so they aren’t one-shot the second they leave cloak. Just add it to the skill tooltip and be done with it, or make it so that DOT damage won’t consume the crit.Edited by Minalan on February 27, 2018 3:58AM0 -
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✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »Stamblades arent as strong as they were when viper/velidreth/selene's were still overperforming.
Now it seems like stamdens and magplars (at least on console CP) are all the rage.
On PC Its a mixed bag, but every 3 person out of 5 is a damn nightblade, and they still complain about the other 2 that still havent rerolled to one. Which to me is ridicilous.
Those are stamblades, don't you soil the name of my beautiful magblade.
Magblade is meta in PvE so it's only logical that they're popular in PvP now as well. Buncha new rerolls this patch too it seems. It's also sad cause magblades are superior to any other magicka class in PvE which is why we'll get nerfed soon^tm
Lol probably I've been rolling around on my magblade since I gave eso another shot. My 1st toon was a templar just after release and I was expecting skyrim online, having never played a mmorpg. Came back after tamriel 1 and been magblading since.Edited by Datthaw on February 27, 2018 11:43AM0 -
Azurya✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »Stamblades arent as strong as they were when viper/velidreth/selene's were still overperforming.
Now it seems like stamdens and magplars (at least on console CP) are all the rage.
On PC Its a mixed bag, but every 3 person out of 5 is a damn nightblade, and they still complain about the other 2 that still havent rerolled to one. Which to me is ridicilous.
that is definetly not true!
Kill quests in cyro from last week:
20 sorcs 15 minutes
20 DK 12 minutes
20 templars 14 minutes
20 wardens 35 minutes (still a long search till you find enough)
20 NB 17 minutes
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Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »Stamblades arent as strong as they were when viper/velidreth/selene's were still overperforming.
Now it seems like stamdens and magplars (at least on console CP) are all the rage.
On PC Its a mixed bag, but every 3 person out of 5 is a damn nightblade, and they still complain about the other 2 that still havent rerolled to one. Which to me is ridicilous.
that is definetly not true!
Kill quests in cyro from last week:
20 sorcs 15 minutes
20 DK 12 minutes
20 templars 14 minutes
20 wardens 35 minutes (still a long search till you find enough)
20 NB 17 minutes
Definitely a good metric, right there. Do you also use a thermometer to take your blood pressure?EU | PC | AD3 -
magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »Stamblades arent as strong as they were when viper/velidreth/selene's were still overperforming.
Now it seems like stamdens and magplars (at least on console CP) are all the rage.
On PC Its a mixed bag, but every 3 person out of 5 is a damn nightblade, and they still complain about the other 2 that still havent rerolled to one. Which to me is ridicilous.
that is definetly not true!
Kill quests in cyro from last week:
20 sorcs 15 minutes
20 DK 12 minutes
20 templars 14 minutes
20 wardens 35 minutes (still a long search till you find enough)
20 NB 17 minutesRagnarock41 wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »Stamblades arent as strong as they were when viper/velidreth/selene's were still overperforming.
Now it seems like stamdens and magplars (at least on console CP) are all the rage.
On PC Its a mixed bag, but every 3 person out of 5 is a damn nightblade, and they still complain about the other 2 that still havent rerolled to one. Which to me is ridicilous.
that is definetly not true!
Kill quests in cyro from last week:
20 sorcs 15 minutes
20 DK 12 minutes
20 templars 14 minutes
20 wardens 35 minutes (still a long search till you find enough)
20 NB 17 minutes
That’s interesting, I’m sure it is a little different in bgs but there is more people in Cyro and you’re stuck with the same classes in bgs for 15 min and often see the same people so it’s hard to tell, sometimes I see all wardens for a whole day and sometimes all sorcs taking all the kbs lol
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Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »Ragnarock41 wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »Stamblades arent as strong as they were when viper/velidreth/selene's were still overperforming.
Now it seems like stamdens and magplars (at least on console CP) are all the rage.
On PC Its a mixed bag, but every 3 person out of 5 is a damn nightblade, and they still complain about the other 2 that still havent rerolled to one. Which to me is ridicilous.
that is definetly not true!
Kill quests in cyro from last week:
20 sorcs 15 minutes
20 DK 12 minutes
20 templars 14 minutes
20 wardens 35 minutes (still a long search till you find enough)
20 NB 17 minutesRagnarock41 wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »Stamblades arent as strong as they were when viper/velidreth/selene's were still overperforming.
Now it seems like stamdens and magplars (at least on console CP) are all the rage.
On PC Its a mixed bag, but every 3 person out of 5 is a damn nightblade, and they still complain about the other 2 that still havent rerolled to one. Which to me is ridicilous.
that is definetly not true!
Kill quests in cyro from last week:
20 sorcs 15 minutes
20 DK 12 minutes
20 templars 14 minutes
20 wardens 35 minutes (still a long search till you find enough)
20 NB 17 minutes
That’s interesting, I’m sure it is a little different in bgs but there is more people in Cyro and you’re stuck with the same classes in bgs for 15 min and often see the same people so it’s hard to tell, sometimes I see all wardens for a whole day and sometimes all sorcs taking all the kbs lol
How is it interesting exactly? It's a single person's observation over 1 week only and it's unverified as well. Aside from the fact that it could be entirely made up (as if people keep timers on the quests) I could also argue that NB quest takes longer to complete because they can escape better than anyone else, not because there's less of them. It's a pretty meaningless statistic, even if true.EU | PC | AD0 -
magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »Ragnarock41 wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »Stamblades arent as strong as they were when viper/velidreth/selene's were still overperforming.
Now it seems like stamdens and magplars (at least on console CP) are all the rage.
On PC Its a mixed bag, but every 3 person out of 5 is a damn nightblade, and they still complain about the other 2 that still havent rerolled to one. Which to me is ridicilous.
that is definetly not true!
Kill quests in cyro from last week:
20 sorcs 15 minutes
20 DK 12 minutes
20 templars 14 minutes
20 wardens 35 minutes (still a long search till you find enough)
20 NB 17 minutesRagnarock41 wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »Stamblades arent as strong as they were when viper/velidreth/selene's were still overperforming.
Now it seems like stamdens and magplars (at least on console CP) are all the rage.
On PC Its a mixed bag, but every 3 person out of 5 is a damn nightblade, and they still complain about the other 2 that still havent rerolled to one. Which to me is ridicilous.
that is definetly not true!
Kill quests in cyro from last week:
20 sorcs 15 minutes
20 DK 12 minutes
20 templars 14 minutes
20 wardens 35 minutes (still a long search till you find enough)
20 NB 17 minutes
That’s interesting, I’m sure it is a little different in bgs but there is more people in Cyro and you’re stuck with the same classes in bgs for 15 min and often see the same people so it’s hard to tell, sometimes I see all wardens for a whole day and sometimes all sorcs taking all the kbs lol
How is it interesting exactly? It's a single person's observation over 1 week only and it's unverified as well. Aside from the fact that it could be entirely made up (as if people keep timers on the quests) I could also argue that NB quest takes longer to complete because they can escape better than anyone else, not because there's less of them. It's a pretty meaningless statistic, even if true.
It’s interesting to hear other people perspectives That doesn’t mean you need to be a sheep and believe everything. If you’re not taking everything with a grain of salt you’re a fool. But more info is better than no info. Doesn’t mean anyone is going to quote him as fact...
And being someone’s observation doesn’t mean it’s false either.
Do you know what interesting means? Don’t just troll people or assume I’m just blindly following something because it was some info someone put on a post lol
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ReverseVenom✭✭✭The fact that someone said StamDK requires more skill than a NB sent me into hysterics, I've played my NB for 2.5 years spending millions of gold and countless hours farming different gear to optimize him. I finally am able to survive and do great damage, finally capable of 1vxing
I rolled a stamdk a month ago, got him outfitted two days ago with not even gold weapons or enchants hopped into pvp and immediately held off three guys and killed all of em over the course of two minutes.
maybe my PvP experience on my stamblade helped in some way but it was a completely different play style and all I had to do to survive was Igneous shield-vigor-block-ult-executionerNerf mudcrabs1 -
Ragnarock41✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ReverseVenom wrote: »The fact that someone said StamDK requires more skill than a NB sent me into hysterics, I've played my NB for 2.5 years spending millions of gold and countless hours farming different gear to optimize him. I finally am able to survive and do great damage, finally capable of 1vxing
I rolled a stamdk a month ago, got him outfitted two days ago with not even gold weapons or enchants hopped into pvp and immediately held off three guys and killed all of em over the course of two minutes.
maybe my PvP experience on my stamblade helped in some way but it was a completely different play style and all I had to do to survive was Igneous shield-vigor-block-ult-executioner
Yeah, totally explains why everyone and their mums are playing a stamblade while stamDK mains are just rerolling into other things.
Or other games.Edited by Ragnarock41 on February 27, 2018 5:48PM0 -
Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ReverseVenom wrote: »The fact that someone said StamDK requires more skill than a NB sent me into hysterics, I've played my NB for 2.5 years spending millions of gold and countless hours farming different gear to optimize him. I finally am able to survive and do great damage, finally capable of 1vxing
I rolled a stamdk a month ago, got him outfitted two days ago with not even gold weapons or enchants hopped into pvp and immediately held off three guys and killed all of em over the course of two minutes.
maybe my PvP experience on my stamblade helped in some way but it was a completely different play style and all I had to do to survive was Igneous shield-vigor-block-ult-executioner
Lol, tanking 3 pugs isn’t a good measure here, fight someone competent and tell me how you plan to kill them on stam DK
Stam DK, stam sorc, mag dk, magplar, and mag warden all all worse and harder to play then either NB variety.Edited by Lexxypwns on February 27, 2018 5:56PM0 -
ChildOfLight✭✭✭magictucktuck wrote: »NB and want to be in medium and do well against the heavy lames.
Yup while smashing the "surprise attack" key requires some serious skill.
Ah, I am sorry...sometimes the Incap one too.PC EU
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magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭ReverseVenom wrote: »The fact that someone said StamDK requires more skill than a NB sent me into hysterics, I've played my NB for 2.5 years spending millions of gold and countless hours farming different gear to optimize him. I finally am able to survive and do great damage, finally capable of 1vxing
I rolled a stamdk a month ago, got him outfitted two days ago with not even gold weapons or enchants hopped into pvp and immediately held off three guys and killed all of em over the course of two minutes.
maybe my PvP experience on my stamblade helped in some way but it was a completely different play style and all I had to do to survive was Igneous shield-vigor-block-ult-executioner
Lol, tanking 3 pugs isn’t a good measure here, fight someone competent and tell me how you plan to kill them on stam DK
Stam DK, stam sorc, mag dk, magplar, and mag warden all all worse and harder to play then either NB variety.
disagree :P but we already know that... lol this thread might forever be a debate on class playablility..0 -
magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭Ragnarock41 wrote: »ReverseVenom wrote: »The fact that someone said StamDK requires more skill than a NB sent me into hysterics, I've played my NB for 2.5 years spending millions of gold and countless hours farming different gear to optimize him. I finally am able to survive and do great damage, finally capable of 1vxing
I rolled a stamdk a month ago, got him outfitted two days ago with not even gold weapons or enchants hopped into pvp and immediately held off three guys and killed all of em over the course of two minutes.
maybe my PvP experience on my stamblade helped in some way but it was a completely different play style and all I had to do to survive was Igneous shield-vigor-block-ult-executioner
Yeah, totally explains why everyone and their mums are playing a stamblade while stamDK mains are just rerolling into other things.
Or other games.
you say this yet i see dks and sorcs and wardens and templars and nightblades all grinding... so that doesnt mean much saying that.. i could just say everyone and their mother is played every class
everyone just has an opinion, idk why everyone has to pretend like its a fact though.. its so ignorant its crazyEdited by magictucktuck on February 27, 2018 6:02PM0 -
magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭ChildOfLight wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »NB and want to be in medium and do well against the heavy lames.
Yup while smashing the "surprise attack" key requires some serious skill.
Ah, I am sorry...sometimes the Incap one too.
as opposed to breath of life or jabs? come on, its a game, everyone has a spamable. your just as guilty on any class of smashing a button lol.
Edit and if you litterally playing that way, you’re doing it wrong and need to lessons.Edited by magictucktuck on February 27, 2018 6:38PM1 -
mursie✭✭✭✭✭Hey Tuck,
I see flawless conq in your sig and was hopeful that you could answer the following questions:
1. I'm trying to do vMA on my stamblade (CP lvl 275) and basically gave up after 2nd round. Was running TFS with Veli and agility - DW/Bow and the normal rotations for back bar bow (EH, Caltrop, Rearm, leeching, vigor) and front bar (rending slash, relentless focus, SA, deadly cloak, killer blade). I couldn't stay alive with the damage... despite the sigils etc. Just wasn't possible with vigor. I did recently get VO and now i can run 5pc TFS and 5 pc VO with 2 pc Veli. Is my CP to low to do this?
for background, i'm very impatient. If i'm dieing more than 10x in pve content i'm basically done. I figure i'm either doing something completely wrong or just flat out not geared/leveled enough to perform the content. that's basically my stance right now on vet falkreath. can get to last boss no problem... and pretty easily get him to 20% as it isn't a speed test... but that last 20%... my group (all sub 300 cp) just can't stay alive and never able to complete.
Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated. criticism is fine. I can handle the "you just suck bro" if that is the issue.0 -
magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭Hey Tuck,
I see flawless conq in your sig and was hopeful that you could answer the following questions:
1. I'm trying to do vMA on my stamblade (CP lvl 275) and basically gave up after 2nd round. Was running TFS with Veli and agility - DW/Bow and the normal rotations for back bar bow (EH, Caltrop, Rearm, leeching, vigor) and front bar (rending slash, relentless focus, SA, deadly cloak, killer blade). I couldn't stay alive with the damage... despite the sigils etc. Just wasn't possible with vigor. I did recently get VO and now i can run 5pc TFS and 5 pc VO with 2 pc Veli. Is my CP to low to do this?
for background, i'm very impatient. If i'm dieing more than 10x in pve content i'm basically done. I figure i'm either doing something completely wrong or just flat out not geared/leveled enough to perform the content. that's basically my stance right now on vet falkreath. can get to last boss no problem... and pretty easily get him to 20% as it isn't a speed test... but that last 20%... my group (all sub 300 cp) just can't stay alive and never able to complete.
Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated. criticism is fine. I can handle the "you just suck bro" if that is the issue.
Nb for vma biggest issue is healing. When I was on Xbox I got my first flawless was with 2h and bow for the healing from rally which made it a lot easier but take a little longer. Now maybe only like 10 min longer but that means more time dodging rng on some rounds.
I actually have a pvpers vma build for 2h and bow nb but it’s from pre morrowind and gear not as good as what your using since it’s for non pvers
So that might be a good if you wanted to try it.
When I got it on pc I use VO and briarheart to make up for healing and used the same skill setup as you but instead of deadly cloak I used power extraction so I could use tripots for extra survivability. But you skills should be fine.
Your biggest issue is your cp and practice I got my pc flawless litterally I think around 275 so it is possible but I already had it on 6 Xbox toons. The main thing is you just take less dog the higher it it and deal more. That being said if you stick it out you will breeze through at even 400 cp. or just wait a month
@mursie
NOTE: but people also struggle at max cp when they first tryEdited by magictucktuck on March 1, 2018 10:55PM0 -
Killset✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Ne1 whom says mSorc is a threat (aside from the random implosion proc when a NB is attacking you at the same time) is just joking around.
Sorcs haven't been a threat in over a year.
Get the best player on a Sorc and he'll so better on a different class. Lol
Sorcs! What a joke
This is completely untrue. Your exposure to good sorcs must be extremely limited.
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✭magictucktuck wrote: »Edit: I fell for the troll
You're trolling yourself if you think lexxy is trolling you.0 -
magictucktuck✭✭✭✭✭Brutusmax1mus wrote: »magictucktuck wrote: »Edit: I fell for the troll
You're trolling yourself if you think lexxy is trolling you.
well first that was not for lexxy, and second because i think other classes are just as if not easier than nbs?
@Brutusmax1mus
EDIT: this convo was from the other day so i kinda forgot but i was defending that fact that she was stating opinions instead of fact lol
so that cant be trolling for just pointing out that someone is trying to convince people of something that is just not true, or one side of a argument. so im trying to make sure people dont jsut copy what she says like its the bible.
If thats trolling, you can pretend that response was for her :PEdited by magictucktuck on March 2, 2018 10:08PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »Ne1 whom says mSorc is a threat (aside from the random implosion proc when a NB is attacking you at the same time) is just joking around.
Sorcs haven't been a threat in over a year.
Get the best player on a Sorc and he'll so better on a different class. Lol
Sorcs! What a joke
This is completely untrue. Your exposure to good sorcs must be extremely limited.
Dude, we both play in the same campaigns and BGs. Unless they are like at keeps and not BGs, (which actually is possible) we see the same peeps.
And it's not the players. I bet ya the best sorc player will actually perform better on a different class because of all the available options.0