Butt flaps/ Front Flaps should they be removed or optional?

Thevampirenight · February 2018

These things annoy me they put them on almost every armor. Its so unrealistic and annoying especailly the butt flaps
I'm sure others are annoyed by these and want them optional.
Whats your opinion on this issue people?

DieAlteHexe · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

I voted yes but I actually would rather those hideous side flaps go first. I really dislike them.

KrishakPanettier · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

Should be an Option to display (default) or Hide just like helmet.

NyassaV · February 2018

Make them consistent

Thevampirenight · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

The armors that need to have these things removed is the Dark Brotherhood and the Morag tong.
Its ridiculous to me that those armors have the butt flaps. Yes they need to do something about this. I don't know why they insist on doing it. But its kinda gotten out of hand. Side flaps are not as bad but yes they should have an optional on those too.

NyassaV · February 2018

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/398191/front-butt-flaps#latest

Shawn_PT · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

I actually like flaps. But options are always welcome.

Thevampirenight · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

KrishakPanettier wrote: »

Should be an Option to display (default) or Hide just like helmet.

I agree they do need to have the option of hiding them. Even if it does cause a little more lag to the game I rather have the lag then the butt flaps.

DieAlteHexe · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

Hollery wrote: »

Make them consistent

Yes, consistently GONE.

Acrolas · February 2018

Tassets. Unless they're on one of the Japanese-inspired armors. Then they're kusazuri.

There may be a few exceptions, but most of them are part of the chest piece. But that's still 40+ designs to audit into a separate piece that can be hidden. I just don't know if it's worth the effort when they don't really look that bad when you're wearing a motif in its entirety.

Nestor · February 2018

Order of the Hour and Grim Harlequin do not have these. Same with Mazzutan.

Note, I have not checked all weights.

DieAlteHexe · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

Acrolas wrote: »

Tassets. Unless they're on one of the Japanese-inspired armors. Then they're kusazuri.

There may be a few exceptions, but most of them are part of the chest piece. But that's still 40+ designs to audit into a separate piece that can be hidden. I just don't know if it's worth the effort when they don't really look that bad when you're wearing a motif in its entirety.

Or tuille but whatever you wish to call them....begone with them.

Or...make an option...I could live with that.

Thevampirenight · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

Acrolas wrote: »

Tassets. Unless they're on one of the Japanese-inspired armors. Then they're kusazuri.

There may be a few exceptions, but most of them are part of the chest piece. But that's still 40+ designs to audit into a separate piece that can be hidden. I just don't know if it's worth the effort when they don't really look that bad when you're wearing a motif in its entirety.

Well theres some armors where I can see them, however every type nope. Dark Brotherhood armor costume, theives guild costume dark brotherhood and Morag Tong style needs the butt flaps removed. Seriously want to see them removed from those items first. It bothers me they added the butt flaps to those items.

AhPook_Is_Here · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

Tassets are there to keep your hip bones from breaking, but since we don't have bones in this game it seems rather pointless. I love all of the shiny and bright lights spells and abilities make, its like always being at a rave, we should be able to dress like that and have body glitter, imho.

Invincible · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

The butts in this game are square anyway. Not sure what you're trying to see but it would be nice to see more creativity from the development team. Like "ok just throw some muddflaps on this bad boy and bam"

akredon_ESO · February 2018

I think i stepped in what was left of the dead horse..... aww dangit now i need to clean off my boots...

VaranisArano · February 2018

I really like most of the hip and butt flaps because they help cover up some rather ugly parts of the armor and help transition between chest and leg pieces, BUT I also think that removing them should be option for those who hate them.

Recremen · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

Tassets should definitely be optional. They're great sometimes, but other times they cause the worst of the clipping issues or are responsible for severe crimes against a character's silhouette.

Radiance · February 2018

No they should keep them

One does not simply remove *** or Buttocks...
Jk, this has all been a joke, I actually agree they should be optional, sry for messing up your poll haha..

Edit:
1.Are you kidding me!?! If "***" is a bad word then surely *** must be as well!
2.Okay, Well at least the forums aren't sexist... Just some Sunday School Abstinence BS!!!
LOL Okay, i'm done...

CaffeinatedMayhem · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

Tassets are there to keep your hip bones from breaking, but since we don't have bones in this game it seems rather pointless. I love all of the shiny and bright lights spells and abilities make, its like always being at a rave, we should be able to dress like that and have body glitter, imho.

If swords and daggers didn't clip into the tassets that would be great, but they do. And also, I don't want giant hip flaps on every style of armor. Jerkins and Robes for example, I want a robe without tassets that isn't Khajiit 1 or WoodElf 1, and not Mazzatun, etc. There aren't that many styles that don't have tassets, and a few styles only lose them on the lowest level style.

ADarklore · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

Unlike shoulders, belt, gloves, boots, that ARE singular pieces that could have the 'hide' option like helmet, the problem with flaps is that they are part of the CHEST piece and they are not 'two piece' chests; ZOS would have to go back through each and every chest piece and convert them into multi-pieces, which they will never do because of associated time and cost.

Androconium · February 2018

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

I voted yes but I actually would rather those hideous side flaps go first. I really dislike them.

this.

EDIT: I didn't vote as the question is too complicated.

FakeFox · February 2018

No they should keep them

I guess they are the Elder Scrolls equivalent to medieval European tassets, mail skirts or similar things from other cultures so I think they are appropriate and fulfil a purpose. I really don't want them gone, however a "hide" option would be fine.

Edit: Chosen the wrong option...lol.

Tasear · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

thatlaurachick wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

Tassets are there to keep your hip bones from breaking, but since we don't have bones in this game it seems rather pointless. I love all of the shiny and bright lights spells and abilities make, its like always being at a rave, we should be able to dress like that and have body glitter, imho.

If swords and daggers didn't clip into the tassets that would be great, but they do. And also, I don't want giant hip flaps on every style of armor. Jerkins and Robes for example, I want a robe without tassets that isn't Khajiit 1 or WoodElf 1, and not Mazzatun, etc. There aren't that many styles that don't have tassets, and a few styles only lose them on the lowest level style.

This^

Everstorm · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

I don’t care how they look or weither or not they are realistic but the clipping when dual wielding is really atrocious.
Clipping is an issue in this game anyway. That new undead horse has some ropes dangling along the side that goes straight through my legs, thank god for preview.
Characters with long hair and using any sort of twohander is another one, and when wardrobe went live I had to spend half an hour for a shield that didn't clip through either my head or shoulders.
It really seems they don't even check for this when designing motifs.

BlueViolet · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

Please give us the option to hide or remove.

I can't stand them. Some of the tassets ruin the perfectly nice look of some armour. There are some styles where they're slightly smaller and more discreet, but for the most part, they're huge, flappy and really ugly.
There are many armour styles in this game; if there isn't going to be an option to hide them, couldn't we please have a few more without tassets instead of making them bigger and more obvious every time a new motif is released?

dodgehopper_ESO · February 2018

KrishakPanettier wrote: »

Should be an Option to display (default) or Hide just like helmet.

I think this is the most reasonable response. I also believe side flaps are often more annoying in appearance than front because the front flaps actually had purpose. Most armors have weak points around the groin despite the fact that there are exposed lethal points in the region, including major arteries that lead up from the thigh. There is actually a purpose for these. What surprises me is that there is no leather skirt for any of the imperial armor styles (Pteruges in the old Roman armor, formed from leather strips).

I would like to add that there were actually plenty of armors that had some of these 'side protections' although they did not drape quite like they do in the game (that is to say hovering). The hovering pieces though I suppose are due to potential clipping issues.

ListerJMC · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

I would love the option as lots of the flaps clip, often into their own style. For example, I can't wear the Mages Guild/Ancient Elf robes even though they're perfect for my main because the front flap clips through the skirt on the robes while idle (and the shoulders defy gravity but that's a whole other topic) and it's annoying to see. A large part of me wishes the front flaps were just stuck to the skirt so they moved perfectly together.

Also, some of them have absolutely massive and out-of-place looking flaps that ruin the whole look. I use low level base styles a lot because of that.

JJBoomer · February 2018

I like the flaps. I say keep them, but offer a "Hide" option.

DieAlteHexe · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

KrishakPanettier wrote: »

Should be an Option to display (default) or Hide just like helmet.

I think this is the most reasonable response. I also believe side flaps are often more annoying in appearance than front because the front flaps actually had purpose. Most armors have weak points around the groin despite the fact that there are exposed lethal points in the region, including major arteries that lead up from the thigh. There is actually a purpose for these. What surprises me is that there is no leather skirt for any of the imperial armor styles (Pteruges in the old Roman armor, formed from leather strips).

I would like to add that there were actually plenty of armors that had some of these 'side protections' although they did not drape quite like they do in the game (that is to say hovering). The hovering pieces though I suppose are due to potential clipping issues.

As did the side flaps. It's the hovering that really irks me. I'd love to know why they chose the hovering bit. I thought it might have been a graphics thing but not sure after seeing some armor that either doesn't have 'em or they don't seem to be quite so "gee, I'll just kind of hang around in the vicinity where I might be useful".

ETA: Buggrit, now I have to go find some that don't hover because I know I saw them.

ak_pvp · February 2018

Yes for the love of Stendarr they should either remove them or make them optional

If you say remove flaps they will probably nerf wings again.

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