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Do you want a "Compare Achievements" and "Inspect Player" option?
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No.No.
Alternately, I could see an inspection system, but I get to define as part of Outfit system what they see.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
PC NA/EU: @Elsonso
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Total in-game hours: 11321
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M_Volsung✭✭✭✭✭No.Ask, and if you're not a copper-plated bellend, I might tell you... Maybe... Probably not."In the Deep Halls, Far from Men;
Forsaken Red Mountain, Twisted Kin;
Hail the Mind, Hail the Stone;
Dwarven Pride, Stronger than Bone"
—Dwemer Inquiries I-III, Thelwe Ghelein3 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No.“Elitism” is a tiresome bogeyman. You could say not having it allows ‘carry me’s’ to try and sneak in under the radar. ESO suffers from attempts to shield players from actually trying.
If you're going through an entire dungeon with someone who's not trying, and you don't kick them, that's on you and the rest of your group. Someone could have the best BiS set in the game and not try.
Inspection of gear doesn't equal a player's intent to try...Edited by Kel on February 24, 2018 11:42PM5 -
Cadbury✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No.If they add a small crown fee for every time you "inspect", sure."If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."3 -
Thevampirenight✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes I do, but don't care for the achievements espect, what I want is an roleplay bio system where you can write in your charaters history and attributes. Kinda like the bio system in Neverwinter and startrek online.
Would be so useful for roleplayers.PC NA
Please add Fangs to Vampires.5 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No.“Elitism” is a tiresome bogeyman. You could say not having it allows ‘carry me’s’ to try and sneak in under the radar. ESO suffers from attempts to shield players from actually trying.
Having the gear and skills on ones bar is about as useful as the CP they have.
It does not means jack unless they have the skill. There are players in the game who at low CP could out dps most of those who have posted in this thread. Those that often complain about GF groups are not exactly the strongest players in the game. Otherwise they could easily carry most groups in most dungeons.Edited by idk on February 25, 2018 12:46AM2 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't care.
This so much, also note that dungeons are not trials, if tank has pvp gear but is not only able to taunt and survive but also do damage who will complain?Primarily because of elitism and or stupid players.
I for one have what elitist refer to 'top tier gear' but say if someone else isn't running something similar but it functions well, they would be ostracized and face routine kicks until they follow a meta or has something to prove that can preform their role well.
Add that its way more gear options than most realize. On top of it stuff like ebon and spell power cure is easy to see as effect, vma and master weapons has an distinct look, proc set tend to have an visible proc.
You can also always ask.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Grimm13✭✭✭✭✭
✭No.Extremely bad idea. It's bad enough that a vote can be made to kick a player in a Dungeon. I know the vote kick is there to remove a stuck/dc'd toon but reality is it is used to boot "under preforming" characters even in NORMAL Dungeons. It'd be much worse should inspection of gear be added.
I do not want to see another tool add to be used to measure up others to what someone thinks the "standard" should be.
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DoctorESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭LadyNalcarya wrote: »I think that comparing achievements is kinda pointless because achievements are not account-wide.
Idc about gear.
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Juju_beans✭✭✭✭✭
✭No.Extremely bad idea. It's bad enough that a vote can be made to kick a player in a Dungeon. I know the vote kick is there to remove a stuck/dc'd toon but reality is it is used to boot "under preforming" characters even in NORMAL Dungeons. It'd be much worse should inspection of gear be added.
I do not want to see another tool add to be used to measure up others to what someone thinks the "standard" should be.
Well it will be the current meme BIS build of course for min/max players and you better be wearing it !
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Sylvis✭✭✭Yes.Would like to be able to show/see achievements earned. Don't care for inspecting gear, although I would be curious to see what someone is running if they are doing really high dps or whatever. I've always wanted a way to write a story or description of your character that others can read.0 -
dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes.“Elitism” is a tiresome bogeyman. You could say not having it allows ‘carry me’s’ to try and sneak in under the radar. ESO suffers from attempts to shield players from actually trying.
If you're going through an entire dungeon with someone who's not trying, and you don't kick them, that's on you and the rest of your group. Someone could have the best BiS set in the game and not try.
Inspection of gear doesn't equal a player's intent to try...
You don’t get BIS by not trying, you misunderstand. By ‘not trying’ I reference the mentality of “Why worry about my gear? Other people will just carry me.” If you’re entering content with *** poor gear, you’re not even trying.“Elitism” is a tiresome bogeyman. You could say not having it allows ‘carry me’s’ to try and sneak in under the radar. ESO suffers from attempts to shield players from actually trying.
Having the gear and skills on ones bar is about as useful as the CP they have.
It does not means jack unless they have the skill. There are players in the game who at low CP could out dps most of those who have posted in this thread. Those that often complain about GF groups are not exactly the strongest players in the game. Otherwise they could easily carry most groups in most dungeons.
Show me video of your mythical low cp, high dps player in action then. Can it happen, sure. However it’s such an outlier that I’m baffled why you want to push the narrative. It’s a funny hill to choose to die on.
Why are other people automatically awarded my time? I’m not allowed to be the least bit discriminating of who I play with? I have to be willing to aways carry others, or risk being called, “Elitist”? I don’t care about your labels or pissing contests. I believe people should play how they want. However it works both ways, and I’m not capitulating on that for fear or being called elitist or being challenged. Frankly my play is top notch and by dps is high. I could carry people no problem, I just don’t think it should be demanded of me.0 -
Robvenom✭✭✭✭✭Yes.Seraphayel wrote: »Inspect player! With the option to go anonymous for those that don't want their equip to be inspected.
^^ This.
Or make it so you can only inspect friends. Just give us something....Puppet the Peanut - Templar Tank/Healer0 -
Dromede✭✭✭✭Yes.I do, but mostly because i love checking out people's choice of armor sets and looks, and latest achievements. Asking for armor/costumes in /whisper doesn't always guarantee an answer, unfortunately
Also, i think that i would make guild master's work easier, say, for special trial guilds and so on. I think it's ok to have a little bit more selectness when going for the hardest endgame content as long as everyone is polite and helpful rather than bashing and mean.Skye Cloude - Sorc DPS, Master Crafter. Main, the bestest
Lae Lenne - Templar Healer Trial grade.
Dromede - Stamina Nightblade, she's a newb and doesn't know what she's doing
V'oghatta - Stamplar pretending to be a tank
Ulville Thonvella - aspiring Fire Mage, be careful around her fire sticks!
Dromedaris - lost and not found. Named after a shoe, what else can you expect from her? A proper tank in her wildest dreams
Swims-Naked - too pretty to grind, too silly to quest.
Sun Flair - Dunmer Templar that can't spell for life. To bad she's too broke to afford a name change... Well, at least she's pretty...0 -
boombazookajd✭✭✭✭✭No.No. The last thing we need in this game is big brother.
Drathus Delenu- Dunmer magDk: Shehai Shatterer, Mageslayer, Stormproof, Peak Scaler, Clockwork Confounder, Orderly, Master Wizard, Cloudrest Hero, Undaunted, Dragonstar Arena Champion
Thoronir Rolston- Breton petsorc: Stormproof
Zaakazha-Redguard stamblade: Boethia's Scythe, Clockwork Confounder, Maelstrom Arena Champion, Dragonstar Arena Champion
Scrubs:
Justinius Maximus Decimus- Altmer magblade
Agronak gro'Mashul- Orc DK Tank
Valerya Hawkcroft- Breton healer
Zaaka- Imperial stamDK/crafter
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TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
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I can see it now... "Whip out your achievement list, let us compare whose is longer!" -zipper sounds-xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »Do you want a "Compare Achievements" and "Inspect Player" option?
Generalyl though, I cannot see any advantage in either of those options. And some drawbacks as people get kicked from PUGs for not having the "right" gear, or whatnot...
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What I -would- like was a small backstory tab where you could share some info about your character, some rumours others might have heard and such... But thats a roleplayer thing I guess...
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Grimm13✭✭✭✭✭
✭No.You don’t get BIS by not trying, you misunderstand. By ‘not trying’ I reference the mentality of “Why worry about my gear? Other people will just carry me.” If you’re entering content with *** poor gear, you’re not even trying.
I do not find your opinion valid of how you think if a person is trying or not. Getting into armor before CP 160 can be a drain and waste of gold. A number wait until they can start gathering these items. One source is to do Dungeons, granted these people should stick to normal but there are times that one needs to see have they progressed enough to move to Veteran.
Too often there are PUG's in normal mode that worry about "Carrying" someone when the contributions that each make are scaled. If you are worried about someone, ask them what sets they are working on, give pointers as to what may be good to pursue. We ALL KNOW that ZOS does not do this and we HAVE to rely upon our fellow players.
Myself, I started with beta (yes, I can publicly show my monkey) and left the game in that first year, came back with One Tamriel. Out of 13 characters, 9 are level 50 but it takes time to get good gear. I may have overland/ crafted gear I sill need to rebalance time and again from all the nerfs. I also don't want to be a exact cookie cutter of the recent Meta Build of the patch club, in order to be perceived as trying.
Edited by Grimm13 on February 25, 2018 4:47AM1 -
Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't care.I could go either way on it. It doesn't seem in ESO's design direction, though.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
Grand High Illustrious Mid-Tier PvP/PvE Bussmunster0 -
MehrunesFlagon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes.Extremely bad idea. It's bad enough that a vote can be made to kick a player in a Dungeon. I know the vote kick is there to remove a stuck/dc'd toon but reality is it is used to boot "under preforming" characters even in NORMAL Dungeons. It'd be much worse should inspection of gear be added.
I do not want to see another tool add to be used to measure up others to what someone thinks the "standard" should be.
It should be used to kick under performing players from dungeons. When 3 peole feel teh run is being hindered by one person,why not?Besides,having maybe not access to seeing gear,but skill set up might be helpful.Another thing to consider is say you are able to wear nm/sunder,and can plainly see the other dps is stam.As we know there are people that never talk in dungeons.If you were able to see if they were wearing such sets.It would ensure also that your group synergizes better.1 -
Bbsample197✭✭✭✭I don't care.the first time i played this game i was looking for "inspect player" option i tried asking in zone where is it and i got a mixed of replies from an actual answer and a player who got offended by it saying "there no such thing like that in eso, keep your elitism and saltiness out of this game"0 -
dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes.You don’t get BIS by not trying, you misunderstand. By ‘not trying’ I reference the mentality of “Why worry about my gear? Other people will just carry me.” If you’re entering content with *** poor gear, you’re not even trying.
I do not find your opinion valid of how you think if a person is trying or not. Getting into armor before CP 160 can be a drain and waste of gold. A number wait until they can start gathering these items. One source is to do Dungeons, granted these people should stick to normal but there are times that one needs to see have they progressed enough to move to Veteran.
Too often there are PUG's in normal mode that worry about "Carrying" someone when the contributions that each make are scaled. If you are worried about someone, ask them what sets they are working on, give pointers as to what may be good to pursue. We ALL KNOW that ZOS does not do this and we HAVE to rely upon our fellow players.
Myself, I started with beta (yes, I can publicly show my monkey) and left the game in that first year, came back with One Tamriel. Out of 13 characters, 9 are level 50 but it takes time to get good gear. I may have overland/ crafted gear I sill need to rebalance time and again from all the nerfs. I also don't want to be a exact cookie cutter of the recent Meta Build of the patch club, in order to be perceived as trying.
I’m not talking about normal dungeons, I’m talking vet. Few people worry about carries in normal. However there are often players woefully unprepared for vet content, who jump straight into it believing they deserve to be carried.
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MattT1988✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No.No. I don’t think it’s needed. If I’m curious about what someone running, I ask. I’m yet to meet someone who takes issue with the question and tells me to mind my own business.Edited by MattT1988 on February 25, 2018 6:18AM0 -
xenowarrior92eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes.@MattT1988 then you are not playing enough lol.
also I am so disappointed in most of the replies...shows me the amount of narrow minded people and saltiness in the community...still you don't have to be an elitist to play the game right...if you want to be the common peasant walking down the road and get backstabbed by a bear in a cave then so be it...2 -
FakeFox✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes.It is interesting to see how many people connote elitism absolutely negative.
Apart from that I have played multiple games that have/had such a feature and all my experiences were very positive. Being able to inspect other peoples gear and having your gear being inspected by other people helped me out a lot when I was starting out in WoW some years ago and saved me from quite a few embarrassing moments.EU/PC (GER) - Healermain since 2014 - 50305 Achievement Points - Youtube (PvE Healing Guides, Builds & Gameplay)3 -
MattT1988✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No.xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »@MattT1988 then you are not playing enough lol.
also I am so disappointed in most of the replies...shows me the amount of narrow minded people and saltiness in the community...still you don't have to be an elitist to play the game right...if you want to be the common peasant walking down the road and get backstabbed by a bear in a cave then so be it...
@xenowarrior92eb17_ESO I’ve been playing since console release sport. LOL. I can only go by from what I’ve seen during my regular vet dungeons and vet trials runs. In the rare cases I’ve asked what gear someone is wearing, they’ve been more then happy to share. Maybe your asking the question wrong. I dunno. Even when I used to PUG I never had such issues.0
