What class is best for dps

BretonAltmerNord · February 2018

I am wondering what the best class for dps is so after voting please put the race you think is best

Mister_DMC · February 2018

Changes every patch

MLGProPlayer · February 2018

I haven't played in a while, but stamina is far ahead of magicka at the moment.

For magicka it's:

NB > Sorc >>> Templar = DK >>> Warden

PlagueSD · February 2018

Depends....PvE, PvP, Magica, Stam.

Unable to compute, insufficient data.

WakeYourGhost · February 2018

Highly Subjective and Constantly Changing.
Pretty sure that makes the question more or less pointless, and the entire thread moot.

Of course, when people do Vote, someone will be able to make a vague reference to this thread and it's results in several months when the next major set of Patches comes out, changing the balance again and bringing waves of complaint.
"Ohh, wasn't it just a while ago that people were saying how powerful X is. Now that Y seems stronger, [Z result]" and so on.

BretonAltmerNord · February 2018

PlagueSD wrote: »

Depends....PvE, PvP, Magica, Stam.

Unable to compute, insufficient data.

I am talking about in general

BretonAltmerNord · February 2018

Mister_DMC wrote: »

Changes every patch

Ok but I am talking about for the most recent patch

SirAndy · February 2018

BretonAltmerNord wrote: »

PlagueSD wrote: »

Depends....PvE, PvP, Magica, Stam.
Unable to compute, insufficient data.

I am talking about in general

There is no "in general"

PvP will be different from PvE which will be different if you want to do trials or if you want to run vet dungeons or if you want to run solo or ...

BretonAltmerNord · February 2018

Ok,
I mostly do PVE

Narvuntien · February 2018

Nightblade Magicka

Nightblades have the highest ceiling on damage, but you have to be really good at light attack weaving.

But Mag Sorcs and Stamina Dragonknights have similar dps that is much easier to achieve.

Most classes are within a couple of thousand dps of each other, play what you like.

Stamina typically has higher dummy damage but they are melee and often have to dodge around mechanics all the time.

BretonAltmerNord · February 2018

Narvuntien wrote: »

Nightblades have the highest ceiling on damage, but you have to be really good at light attack weaving.

Most classes are within a couple of thousand dps of each other, play what you like.

Which is the most fun then??

Twenty0zTsunami · February 2018

BretonAltmerNord wrote: »

I am wondering what the best class for dps is so after voting please put the race you think is best

Honestly I'd say in most situations it's more about the experience level of the player behind the character.

BretonAltmerNord wrote: »

Narvuntien wrote: »

Nightblades have the highest ceiling on damage, but you have to be really good at light attack weaving.

Most classes are within a couple of thousand dps of each other, play what you like.

Which is the most fun then??

Fun is subjective. It depends on what you like.

Do you want a nature-focused druid/ranger with the option to tank dmg or heal? Warden

How about a knight channelling holy energy to smite his foes or heal his comrades? Templar.

Sneak-thief-type who is adept at manipulating the shadows to conceal himself, confound and weaken his enemies? With the option of playing as weapons-focused "rogue" or a shadowcaster of sorts? Nightblade.

Mage who can summon daedric entities to fight for and aid them? Channel the elements to destroy everything in their path? Even witht he option of dealing massive dmg with blades and bows alongside conjuring to batter his enemies? Sorcerer

A class with a myriad of magicka / flame based attacks, that can also empower himself with the strength and blood of a dragon? With the option to deal weapon or magicka dmg, as well as tank?

Jhalin · February 2018

Nightblade Magicka

It really depends on what you think makes something the "best", but I'd go with magicka nightblade. Magblades don't pull the highest raw numbers (I believe stamDK or stamblade has that spot at the moment, don't quote me on it) but their class passives give them access to some nice buffs (resistance buffs, vitality, berserk, bonus spell crit) and selfsustain (in Siphoning Strikes and their main spammable, Swallow Soul) that the higher raw number classes don't have access to.

Vahrokh · February 2018

Nightblade Stamina

Nightblades are at the top or close to the top since many months. They have more or less all the good characteristics you want from a class (especially magblades) without the negatives. Only downside, they require more skill to play than others.
Next, come stamina specs in general.

Gythral · February 2018

None if I'm playing it

SydneyGrey · February 2018

I must be the only person on the planet who can't get good DPS with a magsorc. I can get fantastic DPS with stamsorcs and stamblades, though. I think I must be doing something wrong with my magsorc.

Jura23 · February 2018

Sorcerer Magicka

Depends on the player. Every player prefers different playstyle and will achieve better results with different class.

Ep1kMalware · February 2018

Stupid poll is stupid. Generally speaking as long as you're not a magdk you can do more dps than you really need.

TheDarkShadow · February 2018

How does magNB do without those fancy sets from trial? My computer cannot handle trial very well and I don't want to be a dead weight so I only have Juli + Mother Sorrow + Maelstrom staff and stuck at 25k. Meanwhile my stamsorc with automatron + sprigan + Maelstrom bow can get to nearly 30k.

Asmael · February 2018

I hope those magicka sorcerers votes are PvP related since this poll is quite unclear.

Otherwise, for PvE:

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

I haven't played in a while, but stamina is far ahead of magicka at the moment.

For magicka it's:

NB > Sorc >>> Templar = DK >>> Warden

clocksstoppe · February 2018

Dragonknight stamina

Stamina anything really >>> Magicka anything

Zagnut123Zagnut123 · February 2018

Nightblade Stamina

Lol at the magika sorc ppl.

neverwalk · February 2018

All i know is an Imperial has the highest Health in-game by 4%, with all passives Imperials get 12% added to max health, and i've looked at passives for other races and the highest i saw was 8%

Voxicity · February 2018

Nightblade Magicka

Ep1kMalware wrote: »

Stupid poll is stupid. Generally speaking as long as you're not a magdk you can do more dps than you really need.

Magdk can pull decent dps, it just has to be melee and can't compete with stamina characters for that melee slot. You can play magdk fine in 4 man content though, or not serious raiding

pteam · February 2018

Zagnut123Zagnut123 wrote: »

Lol at the magika sorc ppl.

lol I know. Shows u how many people don’t know what they’re talking about

Vahrokh · February 2018

Nightblade Stamina

SydneyGrey wrote: »

I must be the only person on the planet who can't get good DPS with a magsorc. I can get fantastic DPS with stamsorcs and stamblades, though. I think I must be doing something wrong with my magsorc.

You are not the only one.
There are like 5-6 Youtubers using all BiS gear (including MA staff / MD staff + vMA staff) cheese builds using Lover mundus stones (artificially high penetration), 3M target dummies (so their high drain rotation does not deplete resources), sometimes gold food buff. They do 100 parses and keep the one where they critted a lot. You can see that by looking at their chat showing previous attempts, always 2-3k lower.

End result, you see Youtubers boasting 40k with max cheese builds, but it's 36k in a real setting.
Whereas mag blades and stam DPS can do well above 40k DPS self buffed. Here is a thread with video showing 49K DPS self buffed.
Here is a stam-blade doing about 51k self buffed, with trial setup no cheese, 6M target dummy.

This means, magsorcs today are a complete waste of a raid slot. Back to the 2015 crapper we go.

swirve · February 2018

Sorcerer Magicka

Vahrokh wrote: »

SydneyGrey wrote: »

I must be the only person on the planet who can't get good DPS with a magsorc. I can get fantastic DPS with stamsorcs and stamblades, though. I think I must be doing something wrong with my magsorc.

You are not the only one.
There are like 5-6 Youtubers using all BiS gear (including MA staff / MD staff + vMA staff) cheese builds using Lover mundus stones (artificially high penetration), 3M target dummies (so their high drain rotation does not deplete resources), sometimes gold food buff. They do 100 parses and keep the one where they critted a lot. You can see that by looking at their chat showing previous attempts, always 2-3k lower.

End result, you see Youtubers boasting 40k with max cheese builds, but it's 36k in a real setting.
Whereas mag blades and stam DPS can do well above 40k DPS self buffed. Here is a thread with video showing 49K DPS self buffed.
Here is a stam-blade doing about 51k self buffed, with trial setup no cheese, 6M target dummy.

This means, magsorcs today are a complete waste of a raid slot. Back to the 2015 crapper we go.

Do you do trials?

Drdeath20 · February 2018

Nightblade Magicka

Pve magicka nightblade

Pvp mag sorc or stamina nightblade

Vaoh · February 2018

This poll is too general. It really depends on content as well as Mag vs Stam.

Honestly sad to see how many ppl still think Mag Sorc is OP though. It’s been over a year since Homestead, yet 30%+ still say Mag Sorc is top DPS. It’s like the entire year of nerfs have been ignored

I still await the day Sorc is given some serious cost reduction/mag regen so they don’t have to spam heavy attacks anymore. Part of what pushes Mag NB is so far ahead atm is that they can actually sustain and don’t even need Worm.

As for what is actually “Top DPS”....

For Mag:
NB > Sorc > Templar > Warden > DK
NB is the top DPS rn, pushed even further by their inherent Major Expedition, Minor Beserk, and even great offheals. Sorc is still decent (mainly easy to play) and has good AoE - every raid needs at least 1 Mag Sorc for their Conduit synergy, Minor Prophecy raid buff, and high concussion uptime via Asylum Force Pulse. Templar is kinda weak but nice in progression (extra fast rezzes w/ Kags). DK is legit horrible *and* in melee range so rip them. Warden was never good to begin with but can use MA efficiently in most situations and is still fun to play

For Stam...... idk enough about Stam to really go into too much detail:
DK is easy to play and great DPS. At least one Stamplar is needed for PotL. Stamblade and Stam Sorc are great. Stam Warden isn’t horrible but is the weakest - then again that whole class needs help so not worried about it atm. All of the Stam classes are generally pretty viable.

For vAS in particular (especially +1/+2) there should be no Stam DPS, and *usually*6-7 Mag NB with 1-2 Mag Sorcs.

akl77 · February 2018

Vaoh wrote: »

This poll is too general. It really depends on content as well as Mag vs Stam.

Honestly sad to see how many ppl still think Mag Sorc is OP though. It’s been over a year since Homestead, yet 30%+ still say Mag Sorc is top DPS. It’s like the entire year of nerfs have been ignored I still await the day Sorc is given some serious cost reduction/mag regen so they don’t have to spam heavy attacks anymore. Part of what pushes Mag NB is so far ahead atm is that they can actually sustain and don’t even need Worm.

As for what is actually “Top DPS”....

For Mag:
NB > Sorc > Templar > Warden > DK
NB is the top DPS rn, pushed even further by their inherent Major Expedition, Minor Beserk, and even great offheals. Sorc is still decent (mainly easy to play) and has good AoE - every raid needs at least 1 Mag Sorc for their Conduit synergy, Minor Prophecy raid buff, and high concussion uptime via Asylum Force Pulse. Templar is kinda weak but nice in progression (extra fast rezzes w/ Kags). DK is legit horrible *and* in melee range so rip them. Warden was never good to begin with but can use MA efficiently in most situations and is still fun to play

For Stam...... idk enough about Stam to really go into too much detail:
DK is easy to play and great DPS. At least one Stamplar is needed for PotL. Stamblade and Stam Sorc are great. Stam Warden isn’t horrible but is the weakest - then again that whole class needs help so not worried about it atm. All of the Stam classes are generally pretty viable.

For vAS in particular (especially +1/+2) there should be no Stam DPS, and *usually*6-7 Mag NB with 1-2 Mag Sorcs.

@Vaoh nice analysis, what about vma? Is magnb better or mag sorc?
Also when you say magnb > mag sorc, do you mean when magnb got 3 bow procs?

Vaoh · February 2018

akl77 wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

This poll is too general. It really depends on content as well as Mag vs Stam.

Honestly sad to see how many ppl still think Mag Sorc is OP though. It’s been over a year since Homestead, yet 30%+ still say Mag Sorc is top DPS. It’s like the entire year of nerfs have been ignored I still await the day Sorc is given some serious cost reduction/mag regen so they don’t have to spam heavy attacks anymore. Part of what pushes Mag NB is so far ahead atm is that they can actually sustain and don’t even need Worm.

As for what is actually “Top DPS”....

For Mag:
NB > Sorc > Templar > Warden > DK
NB is the top DPS rn, pushed even further by their inherent Major Expedition, Minor Beserk, and even great offheals. Sorc is still decent (mainly easy to play) and has good AoE - every raid needs at least 1 Mag Sorc for their Conduit synergy, Minor Prophecy raid buff, and high concussion uptime via Asylum Force Pulse. Templar is kinda weak but nice in progression (extra fast rezzes w/ Kags). DK is legit horrible *and* in melee range so rip them. Warden was never good to begin with but can use MA efficiently in most situations and is still fun to play

For Stam...... idk enough about Stam to really go into too much detail:
DK is easy to play and great DPS. At least one Stamplar is needed for PotL. Stamblade and Stam Sorc are great. Stam Warden isn’t horrible but is the weakest - then again that whole class needs help so not worried about it atm. All of the Stam classes are generally pretty viable.

For vAS in particular (especially +1/+2) there should be no Stam DPS, and *usually*6-7 Mag NB with 1-2 Mag Sorcs.

@Vaoh nice analysis, what about vma? Is magnb better or mag sorc?
Also when you say magnb > mag sorc, do you mean when magnb got 3 bow procs?

For vMA, I actually think Mag Sorc is better in Dragon Bones. PC players are reporting that the stacks/procs for the bow are resetting whenever a round ends or adds spawn in. Something like that. Seems to be a huge issue unfortunately that needs fixing asap. Until then I don’t think Mag NB will be the better than Mag Sorc in vMA (at least imo).

Mag NB has more DPS with or without the extra bow proc. However although you get 2 bow procs instead of 3 on the first rotation, you get 3 (some ppl say 4 but I haven’t tested yet to say for sure) on the next one. Essentially it’ll all carry over. Either way this problem is due to stacks being created off light attacks striking a target rather than light attacks being fired at a target. Hopefully that’ll get fixed too.

In the end, ZOS needs to fix those two bugs and then give Mag Sorc better sustain via more cost reduction (so they don’t have to spam Heavy attacks) and un-nerf Crystal Frags to balance the two Mag classes out. Templar/DK/Warden need much more help.

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