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Make stealth great again. Soft/hard removal of alliance badges in Cyro.
ak_pvp
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As you can tell, this post asks for removal of the badges above our heads in Cyro. They are additions to the game that make stealth and get away as a non NB much harder, and generally limits gameplay. For instance if someone sees my badge, they are instantly on alert, despite not knowing who or what alliance I would actually be. And it makes it much harder to blend in, since the badge just sticks out above your head.
What could be done is options to remove it totally. Be based off combat when you get hit, fading within a few seconds of not hit for get away. Another choice would be to have it player choice. So that organized groups with no need for stealth can tell who is who, but at the cost of others seeing it too. Whilst not instantly seeing or knowing the random person who walks on by. Of course leaving as is
This isn't about buffing or nerfing classes, nothing will get a better/worse due to this, it is simply about desimplifying PvP. If you have another suggestion please post below.
Edited by ak_pvp on February 23, 2018 6:53AM What could be done is options to remove it totally. Be based off combat when you get hit, fading within a few seconds of not hit for get away. Another choice would be to have it player choice. So that organized groups with no need for stealth can tell who is who, but at the cost of others seeing it too. Whilst not instantly seeing or knowing the random person who walks on by. Of course leaving as is
This isn't about buffing or nerfing classes, nothing will get a better/worse due to this, it is simply about desimplifying PvP. If you have another suggestion please post below.
MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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Best houseknight EU.
Make stealth great again. Soft/hard removal of alliance badges in Cyro. 33 votes
No leave it as is.
78%
26 votes
Yes I want it to be optional
0%
Yes I want them gone completely
6%
2 votes
Yes I want them to be based on combat.
15%
5 votes
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No leave it as is.Remove permasneak from cyrodiil then we can talk.
Sneak/stealth needs to be toned down not buffed.<Noricum>
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✭✭✭Yes I want them to be based on combat.Remove permasneak from cyrodiil then we can talk.
Sneak/stealth needs to be toned down not buffed.
What is the issue with it? Unless you are an NB stealth is an very difficult thing to use consistently. You might get from A-B unseen, and for cheap, but the second you are, its rip.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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✭✭✭Yes I want them to be based on combat.I think it's a great idea to remove player badges.
I think stealth should not make you invisible, but just remove the alliance names/badge. I find it very hard to accept entire armies can just be invisible in front of a keep by stealthing. Only cloak or an invisibility potion should be able to do that.
You want to hide? Use the rocks/trees/bushes or be a troll under a bridge to hide. When using sneak/stealth and it removed you alliance badge and you cannot be targeted by tab targeting you will still be hard to find.
But the game is not designed that way and i think a lot of problems/bugs will occur when it's changed.
So i am for it, but i doubt they can pull it of.
edit: load of typosEdited by Knootewoot on February 23, 2018 8:09AM٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
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✭✭✭✭✭No leave it as is.It’s hard for NBs to get away? Ah yes, the fabled “cloak never works” urban legend. Every day Cyrodiil experience is different from what NBs on the forum would have you believe though.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.3 -
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✭✭✭Yes I want them to be based on combat.It’s hard for NBs to get away? Ah yes, the fabled “cloak never works” urban legend. Every day Cyrodiil experience is different from what NBs on the forum would have you believe though.
That isn't what this is at all?
Just a removal of badges so you don't get needlessly spotted become zerg bait from lengths people would not notice your affiliation by.
That wouldn't change NB at all. It'd give other players better stealth capabilities, maybe even using something like mist/shuffle to blend better.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes I want them to be based on combat.I've never liked them, I understand the need for them but I find I spend more time looking for icons than players.
There is always that interesting and intense moment when you can see a character model but not an icon in the distance and you make a call, then find it's an ally once the reach a range for the icon.
I think a hard removal would be too upsetting but a system where people are flagged once they're marked (combat) would be interesting to have.Edited by Turelus on February 23, 2018 8:40AM@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No leave it as is.It’s hard for NBs to get away? Ah yes, the fabled “cloak never works” urban legend. Every day Cyrodiil experience is different from what NBs on the forum would have you believe though.
That isn't what this is at all?
Just a removal of badges so you don't get needlessly spotted become zerg bait from lengths people would not notice your affiliation by.
That wouldn't change NB at all. It'd give other players better stealth capabilities, maybe even using something like mist/shuffle to blend better.
I overlooked the “non” in front of NBs. Apologies. Still don’t like the idea.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.0 -
huschdeguddzje✭✭✭✭Yes I want them to be based on combat.I want more sneak in pve, it's fine as it is in pvp, maybe too fine0