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Can Mag NB be effective in PVE?

ReverseVenom
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Pretty much everyone knows that top PVE dps is a sorc but I find them kinda boring and have always loved the NB class. Is there a way for them to be as effective as their sorc counterparts (if played well) or will Sorcs always be the go to if I wanna breeze through PVE
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  • Izaki
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    What? MagNB is by far the best magicka DPS in the current patch.
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  • MissBizz
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    Izaki wrote: »
    What? MagNB is by far the best magicka DPS in the current patch.

    ^ Yup.
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  • ReverseVenom
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    Izaki wrote: »
    What? MagNB is by far the best magicka DPS in the current patch.

    ... I've been (along with apparently multiple guilds on Xbox) grossly misinformed then
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  • Oakmontowls_ESO
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    Sorc still has the easier rotation and isn't too far from mNB dps so most raids will be fine with either.
  • Lynx7386
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    nightblades are just a little harder to use than sorcs, but still among the top dogs for pve dps. Also not half bad healers.
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    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
  • Icy_Waffles
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    I thought this way until i made a mag nb.

    2 piece skoria. 5 julianos. 4 aether (blue jewelry) 1 heavy 1 medium 5 light.

    I was amazed with that alone. Using the assassin ult on back bar lightning allows your ult to gen incredibly fast with your dots. Destro ult fire staff front bar. Great dps. Not to mention, when you get into execute range your spammable hits for over 30k. Properly light weaving and using the bow raises dps a lot.

    Only gripe: i have to use spellpower pots. Lasts 48 seconds. Rarely use for trash mobs. Can be pricey if buying or making.
  • ReverseVenom
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    I thought this way until i made a mag nb.

    2 piece skoria. 5 julianos. 4 aether (blue jewelry) 1 heavy 1 medium 5 light.

    I was amazed with that alone. Using the assassin ult on back bar lightning allows your ult to gen incredibly fast with your dots. Destro ult fire staff front bar. Great dps. Not to mention, when you get into execute range your spammable hits for over 30k. Properly light weaving and using the bow raises dps a lot.

    Only gripe: i have to use spellpower pots. Lasts 48 seconds. Rarely use for trash mobs. Can be pricey if buying or making.

    Would Illambris be better than Skoria?
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  • Tinus_92
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    Izaki wrote: »
    What? MagNB is by far the best magicka DPS in the current patch.

    ... I've been (along with apparently multiple guilds on Xbox) grossly misinformed then

    Magicka Nightblades were in a very bad spot post the Morrowind update, these days Dragonknights (due to sustain) and Wardens are in a bad spot. Templar is somewhat recovering now that some bugs are fixed. Sorc and NB are the two best magicka classes atm. Not sure about stamina this patch, but they were pretty equal towards each other in PvE recently.

    For scoria vs Illambris. Skoria will be the best for a ranged fire-damaged build, Illambris if there's more magic and lightning damage involved into your build. Grothdarr (and now Zaan) are good options if going melee.
    Edited by Tinus_92 on February 18, 2018 8:40PM
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  • Runefang
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    Magblades are the best.

    Magsorcs with pets are second

    Ranged Magplars and non-pet Mag Sorcs are pretty close
  • SirDopey
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    In the trial group I ran yesterday there was only one sorc, ONLY ONE!!!. Can you believe it. Days of sorc being number one appear to well over.

    "Experienced" DPS seem to be favoring mNB
    "Not quite there" DPS seem to be favoring stamplar.
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  • Lynx7386
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    SirDopey wrote: »
    In the trial group I ran yesterday there was only one sorc, ONLY ONE!!!. Can you believe it. Days of sorc being number one appear to well over.

    "Experienced" DPS seem to be favoring mNB
    "Not quite there" DPS seem to be favoring stamplar.

    My trial last night had 8 sorcs lol
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    Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
    Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
    Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    SirDopey wrote: »
    In the trial group I ran yesterday there was only one sorc, ONLY ONE!!!. Can you believe it. Days of sorc being number one appear to well over.

    "Experienced" DPS seem to be favoring mNB
    "Not quite there" DPS seem to be favoring stamplar.

    My trial last night had 8 sorcs lol

    My last 10 trials had from 1 to 2 sorcs.
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    SirDopey wrote: »
    In the trial group I ran yesterday there was only one sorc, ONLY ONE!!!. Can you believe it. Days of sorc being number one appear to well over.

    "Experienced" DPS seem to be favoring mNB
    "Not quite there" DPS seem to be favoring stamplar.

    My trial last night had 8 sorcs lol

    Normal or vet?

    Because they're very different things.
  • Icy_Waffles
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    I thought this way until i made a mag nb.

    2 piece skoria. 5 julianos. 4 aether (blue jewelry) 1 heavy 1 medium 5 light.

    I was amazed with that alone. Using the assassin ult on back bar lightning allows your ult to gen incredibly fast with your dots. Destro ult fire staff front bar. Great dps. Not to mention, when you get into execute range your spammable hits for over 30k. Properly light weaving and using the bow raises dps a lot.

    Only gripe: i have to use spellpower pots. Lasts 48 seconds. Rarely use for trash mobs. Can be pricey if buying or making.

    Would Illambris be better than Skoria?

    Well. It *may* be ad you use fire front shock back, but i prefer skoria because the health bonus gets you right in the sweet spot. Also enemies can move out of illambris. The dps difference is minimal.

    Also:

    Moondancer is better, but IA is a great place to start.
    Edited by Icy_Waffles on February 19, 2018 3:12AM
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    Also:

    Moondancer is better, but IA is a great place to start.

    So would you recommend using MD even if I only have blue jewllery?
    Or would IA be better to use if I have that in gold jewellery?
  • MehrunesFlagon
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    with the low cost ult you best bet is master architect with either julianos or mechanical acuity.
  • SoLooney
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    mag sorcs do not have great single target dps, they have amazing cleave

    mag nbs are currently the strongest range for single target, getting 58k plus on raid parses. mag sorcs cannot compete. not to mention they dont need to rely on heavy attacks unlike mag sorcs

    mag nbs are kings this patch, good sustain, amazing dmg, good off heals, cheap ulti for master architect.
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    SoLooney wrote: »
    mag sorcs do not have great single target dps, they have amazing cleave

    mag nbs are currently the strongest range for single target, getting 58k plus on raid parses. mag sorcs cannot compete. not to mention they dont need to rely on heavy attacks unlike mag sorcs

    mag nbs are kings this patch, good sustain, amazing dmg, good off heals, cheap ulti for master architect.

    You mean lightning staff and force pulse? Because curse and fury are the only two class skills that provide any kind of splash damage.
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

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  • SammyFable
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    SoLooney wrote: »
    mag sorcs do not have great single target dps, they have amazing cleave

    mag nbs are currently the strongest range for single target, getting 58k plus on raid parses. mag sorcs cannot compete. not to mention they dont need to rely on heavy attacks unlike mag sorcs

    mag nbs are kings this patch, good sustain, amazing dmg, good off heals, cheap ulti for master architect.

    You mean lightning staff and force pulse? Because curse and fury are the only two class skills that provide any kind of splash damage.

    You forgot Liquid lightning, arguably the best dot ingame, (and pet).
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  • Maulkin
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    SoLooney wrote: »
    mag sorcs do not have great single target dps, they have amazing cleave

    mag nbs are currently the strongest range for single target, getting 58k plus on raid parses. mag sorcs cannot compete. not to mention they dont need to rely on heavy attacks unlike mag sorcs

    mag nbs are kings this patch, good sustain, amazing dmg, good off heals, cheap ulti for master architect.

    And also unparalleled mobility thanks to cripple. Invaluable during all the kiting phases in vAS for example.

    The off heals are more than good. You want to go for a top vDSA score you could do a lot worse than picking 3 mageblade DDs and skipping the healer. Between the heals from Funnel and the Vigor from the tank, it's more than enough for skilled groups.
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  • ryanborror
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    I thought this way until i made a mag nb.

    2 piece skoria. 5 julianos. 4 aether (blue jewelry) 1 heavy 1 medium 5 light.

    I was amazed with that alone. Using the assassin ult on back bar lightning allows your ult to gen incredibly fast with your dots. Destro ult fire staff front bar. Great dps. Not to mention, when you get into execute range your spammable hits for over 30k. Properly light weaving and using the bow raises dps a lot.

    Only gripe: i have to use spellpower pots. Lasts 48 seconds. Rarely use for trash mobs. Can be pricey if buying or making.

    Would Illambris be better than Skoria?

    Skoria seems to better in most situations and it gives extra health. Ilambris can do well if you run shock back bar and force pulse instead of funnel health. Although I always seem to do better with valkyn. But that's mostly testing on a dummy which is single target. Zaan will probably out parse everything but you gotta stay close
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