You can queue into any random dungeon at CP 160.

The vet DLC dungeons are designed for closer to CP 300.

If you want to make sure you have a "safe" run where you won't get kicked while you are learning to run the vet dungeons, grab a friend or guilds and queue with them.

There's also being able to fulfill your role. For tanks, you need survivability, a taunt, and the ability to promptly bash, block, anf interrupt when needed. For healers, you need sustain for healing and some group buffs when possible. For DPS, 10 to 15k dps will let you complete most veteran dungeons (slowly). Higher DPS will make for a more comfortable clears.

Pugging is dangerous activity. Ideally find a guild or group of friends to run dungeons with. It's a much friendlier environment to learn mechanics and you're far less likely to get immediately booted without the ability to learn anything at all.

There are dungeons that have a 1 and 2 beside the name. All the dungeons with a 1 are relatively safe for both norm and vet. Dungeons with 2 are significantly harder because the mobs have higher health, resistances and an extra boss or 2. DLC dungeons are typically the hardest and on vet mode are very difficult and even people above 300cp get kicked from these dungeons. 1 dungeons were originally intended to be for low lvl and low cp players. #2 dungeons were for mid range players and 2 vet and dlc dungeons were meant for upper lvl and even top lvl players. Even 690cp players struggle with the current dlc dungeons and hardmode is almost impossible except for top tier min/maxed groups. Do not be discouraged as we have all been there before. Ive seen 690 players kicked from some of these dungeons. If you show up with a 2 hander sword and board set up in a dps role you can expect to be kicked regardless of cp ranking. For advise know the role you que for and adjust your build accordingly. I have tanked dungeins where 200cp players had faster clears than 500cp players. All in all everyone should have a chnace to prove there mettle in the dungeon. Most high cp players know what it takes to get the job done in a reasonable amount of time and unfortunately that is what ends up getting people kicked..the been there done that kinda thing. There should be a time limit before anyone can be kicked to even the odds and give people a far opportunity to try.

disintegr8 wrote: »

Too many 'elitists' ... running the dungeon their way (bringing several groups of adds together or skipping mobs without warning the group, starting boss fight while you are still mopping up adds, etc)

This happened to me yesterday in a Dungeon Finder PUG, and it wasn't the first time. Some idiot "hero" feels the need to run ahead of the group. We all get stuck killing mobs while he runs ahead and gets himself killed because he's trying solo too many monsters and pulls a boss. LOL.

zaria wrote: »

sudaki_eso wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

Veteran PUGs are a nightmare.

Too many 'elitists', calling people scrubs and kicking them, or running the dungeon their way (bringing several groups of adds together or skipping mobs without warning the group, starting boss fight while you are still mopping up adds, etc)

^This. Its really the best to find a guild and run with those guys at your own pace.

Had both types of "elitists" disintegr8 is talking about onthe weekend. One tank who was running in front pulling everything while the 2nd dd obviously didnt had enough dps to burn them down quickly and another guy who kept ranting at me because i made one mistake (didnt immedatly noticed that he got pinned down and when i got aware of it it was too late), it was a "noob" mistake, apologized and went on but this guy wouldnt stop telling me how bad i am and tried to kick me even tho the rest of the dungeon went flawless.

So feel free to enter a vet dungeon with your cp's, with a decent group you can manage quite a few of them without problems

This works well if all agree, run trough mob pull them around an corner at burn, it does not work without communication at least not if not all understand the plan and you can not depend on that.

Part of good tanking is learning your group even without communication. I've tanked enough that by the first mobs and definitely the first miniboss, I've got a pretty good measure of my group. If I've got spectacular DPS and a healer who's rock solid, I might go for a multiple mob pull in some dungeons because I'm confident the group can handle it. If I'm seeing that I've got squishy DPS struggling with trash mobs or that healthy is wildly fluctuating during fights, I'm going to pull mobs one at a time so my group members aren't having a rough time - and if someone wants to run ahead and go faster, they can handle whatever they pull until I get there.