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Mechanical Acuity
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✭Merlin13KAGL wrote: »
Why should a stamina weapon buff Spell Pen?Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »Anyone know what weapon combo and crir rate hits a good balance? I run dw dagger/sword for 42.9% crit
Crit is better for aoe cleave, since all your aoe hitting multiple targets have a higher crit chance. Axes are better for single target damage as the twin blade and blunt passive bleed is stronger than anything else really but it only procs off weapon attacks which is your light/heavy weave plus Rending Slashes. So it only procs on the mob you have tab targeted. Swords are the worst, so no one really uses them on trials.
Most people use one axe and one dagger to balance out single target damage with aoe.
Swords need a buff to bring them more on line with the other dw weapons.
Meh. Swords see a fair amount of use as is. They are BiS for PvP magicka melee builds like MageBlades or the occasional MagDen or MagPlar. Because the weapon crit and bleed are useless to magicka builds but the 5% damage increase is universal.
If there's a weapon that's not being used at all, it's the mace. Why try to penetrate people in PvP with mace when the axes proc OP bleeds that ignore resistances and are more effective against tanks? And why use it in PvE when a torug/alkosh tank with crusher enchant, a Sunderflame debuffer and 3000 penetration from CPs... will debuff a boss fully to the point where you don't even need sharpened weapons?
But axes and maces look silly... lol. I just figured an extra 5% damage on top of 100% crit rate was better
No sadly, crit is still king. You can see in @Alcast's video that when he switches to swords, dps dips. Even with Acuity.Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »Anyone know what weapon combo and crir rate hits a good balance? I run dw dagger/sword for 42.9% crit
Crit is better for aoe cleave, since all your aoe hitting multiple targets have a higher crit chance. Axes are better for single target damage as the twin blade and blunt passive bleed is stronger than anything else really but it only procs off weapon attacks which is your light/heavy weave plus Rending Slashes. So it only procs on the mob you have tab targeted. Swords are the worst, so no one really uses them on trials.
Most people use one axe and one dagger to balance out single target damage with aoe.
Swords need a buff to bring them more on line with the other dw weapons.
Meh. Swords see a fair amount of use as is. They are BiS for PvP magicka melee builds like MageBlades or the occasional MagDen or MagPlar. Because the weapon crit and bleed are useless to magicka builds but the 5% damage increase is universal.
If there's a weapon that's not being used at all, it's the mace. Why try to penetrate people in PvP with mace when the axes proc OP bleeds that ignore resistances and are more effective against tanks? And why use it in PvE when a torug/alkosh tank with crusher enchant, a Sunderflame debuffer and 3000 penetration from CPs... will debuff a boss fully to the point where you don't even need sharpened weapons?
You dont see melee mag in trials anymore, they dont pull enough dps to warrent using over a stam toon
I didn’t talk about PvE. I explicitly said swords are BIS for melee magicka PvP builds
This thread is based on pve in case you havent noticed
Big edit: That could have come out better, what I meant to say, although off topic from the original responce is that mag melee could use a buff that would help them stay competitive, especially with all the complaints that magplar is little more than a buff and healbot and both melee magplar and magdk arent considered for endgame pve
Yeah but you can't decouple the usefulness of weapons from half the content of the game, mate. Regardless of the subject of this particular thread.
Daggers and Axes are BIS for PvE stam builds. Swords are BIS for PvP mag builds. Each has its use, so it's hard to argue that any of them needs a buff. If Swords are buffed to be on par with daggers for example, then none will use daggers because Swords will be more transferrable between PvP and PvE and different chars.
Like I said the only weapon that sees no use is maces. Strange that you don't go on about maces, but go on about swords instead.
Maces could use some justice too, they can be buffed to do both physical and spell pen, and have their pen percentages be calculated 1st before any pen debuffs.
I assume you're wanting double benefit of being able to use these on a DW mag or stam character, which seems a bit much.
The +SD from DW swords on mag was counterintuive and lazy design. This would simply expand on that further.
If mag wasnt supposed to use dw, then there is more of a reason to buff swords and maces as they would never see use for stam0 -
SmellyUnlimited✭✭✭✭It's funny that no one even really considers Mace's a thing anymore. Watching the video, it didn't even dawn on me till I read @Maulkin 's post that I even remembered Mace's were in the game.
The burst potential of this set seems like a dream coupled with War Machine on a stamblade (or pehaps Master Architect on Mag). Minor Slayer from WM, Major Slayer for 10 seconds on lost-cost ulti cast, and then THAT damage at 100% crit would be unreal. Warhorn just puts it way over the top.
Question: So, is the downside from a set-up like this that your damage will come in bursty bits and not evenly spaced?
*VTrial's it seems fine since enemies have so much health, but I could see it dropping off in most dungeon content since trash packs can be run through so quickly it may not have a chance to proc?
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✭✭✭✭✭I use maces... On my 1h/sh tanks because they look better =pPS4 / NA
M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭SmellyUnlimited wrote: »
Seems like an effective taunt to me =pPS4 / NA
M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank1 -
Ep1kMalware✭✭✭✭✭
✭If going full damage use acuity. Most groups I know of have a stamdk using sunderflame and another using nmg. if you are a stamnb/splar/msorc/magnb you are probably using acuity. I forget what stamsorcs b rockin'0