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Level rewards system is intrusive and immersion-breaking
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DieAlteHexe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »
If it doesn't bother you, just stay out of this conversation - you are adding nothing to it.
Conversations where we all agree are boring no?
It was just another fanboy, who isn't bothered, so we shouldn't be too comment - it adds nothing to the conversation.
C'mon. Don't sink to that level where if someone disagrees, they automatically become a fanboi. We're all entitled to our opinions around here so long as we behave whilst we're giving them.
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Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Don't worry. You only have to do this once. The second time you reach lvl50, you won't get these messages anymore (if I understand it correctly).
You get fewer rewards, but the messages still appear after every level as you actually have to claim them for the attribute/skill point gain.Edited by Kendaric on February 15, 2018 1:18PM0 -
Sekero✭✭✭There is an option to disable it in its settings menu. Don't know if it also disables the handclapping little dance.1 -
CountEdmondDantes✭✭✭✭Have to save Auridon from the Veiled Hesitance, have to get these daerdric wards down soon...OMG MY LEVEL 20 REWARDS ARE AVAILABLE! HOLD ON, AURIDON, GOTTA CLAIM MY FREE STUFFZ!!!
I'm not complaining about free stuff. It's that I'm being pestered at every level over these awards and my skill points and attribute points are being held hostage until I give in, stop whatever I'm doing, press F and go through the whole ridiculous pat-on-the-back nonsense. For every damn level. Great game design, ZOS.
Hmm ... speak for yourself. Your clanfear appears pretty interested in the rewards.
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Ydrisselle✭✭✭✭✭I didn't check it yet in-game - can we change this keybind to something else? I hope so...0 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »
If it doesn't bother you, just stay out of this conversation - you are adding nothing to it.
Conversations where we all agree are boring no?
It was just another fanboy, who isn't bothered, so we shouldn't be too comment - it adds nothing to the conversation.
I can assure you I am not a 'fanboy'.
I just think it's funny when people complain about immersion in an MMO. There are so many other players in the game that any time you walk into a town your immersion will be ruined anyways by all the gaudy mounts and funny outfits and mudballs and people screaming in chat and murdering NPCs.... your immersion is already pretty much non-existent. If OP or others are looking for that in their game might I suggest one of the many single-player Elder Scrolls Titles out on the market?
It's just odd to me with ALL the issues this game has, all the bugs, all the crashes, all the lag, all the nonsensical nerfs.... and people are complaining about size 12 font across the screen letting them know they have free goodies available? Nah I need to comment on that and give my 2 cents. I understand we may not all have the same priorities but just try to think about the bigger picture. You dont have to like it but this is an internet message board soooooooo I'm just gonna go ahead and stay in the conversation.Edited by Apache_Kid on February 15, 2018 2:19PM16 -
badmojo✭✭✭✭✭
✭What are you doing that is so important you can't take 3 seconds to press f and click a button?
I recharge my weapons with soul gems during vet DLC boss fights....these rewards are all pre-vet, and you can't handle it?[DC/NA]0 -
Ydrisselle✭✭✭✭✭What are you doing that is so important you can't take 3 seconds to press f and click a button?
I recharge my weapons with soul gems during vet DLC boss fights....these rewards are all pre-vet, and you can't handle it?
If you are fighting, and you have to choose a reward during that (pet, costume, material pack, weapon etc.), that could be lethal - especially at lower levels.0 -
Zipadeedoodah✭✭✭I personally didn't find it to be intrusive (got my stamplar to 50 this morning testing out the new leveling system, aka claiming all the magnificent free shinies! lol). With an xp scroll I actually cruised through 3 levels at one point without remembering to hit F and assign my points. Dolmens in the desert just move too quick!
Anyway, this is designed for newer players who are unfamiliar with the game, and I do think it's a nice addition for the target audience. It was a little silly to me that I have to "claim" my skillpoints and attritubte points now, but when I considered the target audience for it, I can see why they are trying to funnel the player's attention to these "rewards".
It is slightly annoying for me, since I am used to the old system, but it will grow on me like a fungus (as most changes do). lol Anyway, it is definitely going to help out newer players, and I'm all for that! ESO is huge, and more than one player I've met has mentioned how overwhelming that is when you first begin the game. I'll happily roll with the tiny chat in the bottom of my screen for a mere 50 levels (casually playing with scrolls took me 3 days to hit 50) if it helps the newer players in the game get established quicker.
I certainly wish this system had been around when I was leveling my other 14 characters! lolEdited by Zipadeedoodah on February 15, 2018 2:31PM2 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Ydrisselle wrote: »What are you doing that is so important you can't take 3 seconds to press f and click a button?
I recharge my weapons with soul gems during vet DLC boss fights....these rewards are all pre-vet, and you can't handle it?
If you are fighting, and you have to choose a reward during that (pet, costume, material pack, weapon etc.), that could be lethal - especially at lower levels.
Mental images of this are funny.1 -
Jhalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭DieAlteHexe wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »
If it doesn't bother you, just stay out of this conversation - you are adding nothing to it.
Ouch. C'mon now, folk are entitled to their opinions, no?
Based on the OP's photo, I'm not seeing it as intrusive either but this could maybe be handled via an option to suppress until you decided to look at your skills/atts?
It gets in the way of gameplay, it does not even bother to check, if F is key-bound to some other action - in my case that is draw/sheath weapon. And if I accidently get the reward screen up, it is blocking all motion and I can do nothing until I choose one of the gifts and press the claim button with mouse - it is really annoying and gets in the way, especially in combat.
Why would you ever rebind the F key? It's used as confirmation for just about everything in the game. Accepting invites, ready up for a dungeon, switch guild tabs at banker. Just seems like a really poor decision on your part.
The level up advisor kinda sucks, but it's not intrusive at all excepting whatever sound cues it has. You just picked one of the worst keys to bind weapon swap to.1 -
krachall✭✭✭✭✭
✭It could have been implemented better.
Instead of a permanent message that hits the center of your screen the instant you level up, make it part of the Character Ability screen or Skill screen that you access when you actually want to level your character.
Yes, I want my skill point and my ability point and my free stuff. I just don't want it mid-fight.1 -
Glockcoma725✭✭✭Doesn't like single line for level up rewards. Perfectly okay with;
Magical Compass at top of screen that shows you exactly where to go
Magical journal constantly telling you what quest objectives are
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badmojo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ydrisselle wrote: »What are you doing that is so important you can't take 3 seconds to press f and click a button?
I recharge my weapons with soul gems during vet DLC boss fights....these rewards are all pre-vet, and you can't handle it?
If you are fighting, and you have to choose a reward during that (pet, costume, material pack, weapon etc.), that could be lethal - especially at lower levels.
Then die. I am sure the trash mobs will wait for you to rez. Worried about the soul gem? I can send you a stack, that should cover leveling 4 characters.[DC/NA]1 -
Chilly-McFreeze✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭DieAlteHexe wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »
If it doesn't bother you, just stay out of this conversation - you are adding nothing to it.
Ouch. C'mon now, folk are entitled to their opinions, no?
Based on the OP's photo, I'm not seeing it as intrusive either but this could maybe be handled via an option to suppress until you decided to look at your skills/atts?
It gets in the way of gameplay, it does not even bother to check, if F is key-bound to some other action - in my case that is draw/sheath weapon. And if I accidently get the reward screen up, it is blocking all motion and I can do nothing until I choose one of the gifts and press the claim button with mouse - it is really annoying and gets in the way, especially in combat.
Yep, okay, that accidental hit is something like an argument but c'mon - you don't sheat your weapons in combat anyway.
But to stay on topic, I'd appreciate it if they simple put that message on a hold until you're out of combat. Easy fix for a small issue.0 -
Ydrisselle✭✭✭✭✭Ydrisselle wrote: »What are you doing that is so important you can't take 3 seconds to press f and click a button?
I recharge my weapons with soul gems during vet DLC boss fights....these rewards are all pre-vet, and you can't handle it?
If you are fighting, and you have to choose a reward during that (pet, costume, material pack, weapon etc.), that could be lethal - especially at lower levels.
Then die. I am sure the trash mobs will wait for you to rez. Worried about the soul gem? I can send you a stack, that should cover leveling 4 characters.
I have enough, thank you, and I'm not levelling any character right now (only planning it). I still think it can be annoying as hell.0 -
Twenty0zTsunami✭✭✭✭This is definitely true. At the very least the ugly hamfisted interface that got itnroduced with it should be forced to wait to appear until combat is over. The first time I level'd up and was prompted to claim my reward I was in the middle of a boss fight and trying to resurrect a party member.. It wouldn't let me becuase the same HOTKEY to REVIVE was set by default to OPEN THE REWARDS MENU
What kind of sick joke is this lol3 -
Rex-Umbra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Have to save Auridon from the Veiled Hesitance, have to get these daerdric wards down soon...OMG MY LEVEL 20 REWARDS ARE AVAILABLE! HOLD ON, AURIDON, GOTTA CLAIM MY FREE STUFFZ!!!
I'm not complaining about free stuff. It's that I'm being pestered at every level over these awards and my skill points and attribute points are being held hostage until I give in, stop whatever I'm doing, press F and go through the whole ridiculous pat-on-the-back nonsense. For every damn level. Great game design, ZOS.
Only happens once per account so its supposed to be for new players.Xbox GT: Rex Umbrah
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N00BxV1✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not only does it affect your gaming experience but also anyone in the group. I’ve seen it several times already doing random dungeons: lowbie stops for a minute and the group asks “are you coming?”, and the lowbie replies “had to stop and select my level rewards”. No, you don’t have to do that while running group content and others are waiting on you...0 -
VexingArcanist✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »
If it doesn't bother you, just stay out of this conversation - you are adding nothing to it.
"Look here buddy you have a contrary point, we don't have discussion and dialogue around here. Get out of my safespace!"
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DieAlteHexe wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »
If it doesn't bother you, just stay out of this conversation - you are adding nothing to it.
Conversations where we all agree are boring no?
It was just another fanboy, who isn't bothered, so we shouldn't be too comment - it adds nothing to the conversation.
C'mon. Don't sink to that level where if someone disagrees, they automatically become a fanboi. We're all entitled to our opinions around here so long as we behave whilst we're giving them.
Yes, and my opinion to that is it is annoying and intrusive to me - I do not need someone to tell me, that it is not - it is for me.0 -
ADarklore✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The problem I have is that... you are basically FORCED to answer this stupid 'accept reward' thing before you can interact with anything, which is especially annoying at Dolemens. You cannot free the final lock or access the chest until you... so in that way, YES, it's extremely intrusive... ZOS should have at least picked a key that isn't bound to be your main 'interactive' key.CP: 2105 ** ESO+ ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The problem I have is that... you are basically FORCED to answer this stupid 'accept reward' thing before you can interact with anything, which is especially annoying at Dolemens. You cannot free the final lock or access the chest until you... so in that way, YES, it's extremely intrusive... ZOS should have at least picked a key that isn't bound to be your main 'interactive' key.
this is exactly the point with this.1 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DieAlteHexe wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »
If it doesn't bother you, just stay out of this conversation - you are adding nothing to it.
Conversations where we all agree are boring no?
It was just another fanboy, who isn't bothered, so we shouldn't be too comment - it adds nothing to the conversation.
C'mon. Don't sink to that level where if someone disagrees, they automatically become a fanboi. We're all entitled to our opinions around here so long as we behave whilst we're giving them.
Yes, and my opinion to that is it is annoying and intrusive to me - I do not need someone to tell me, that it is not - it is for me.
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vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭The problem I have is that... you are basically FORCED to answer this stupid 'accept reward' thing before you can interact with anything, which is especially annoying at Dolemens. You cannot free the final lock or access the chest until you... so in that way, YES, it's extremely intrusive... ZOS should have at least picked a key that isn't bound to be your main 'interactive' key.
I blame the console peons!0 -
ADarklore✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »The problem I have is that... you are basically FORCED to answer this stupid 'accept reward' thing before you can interact with anything, which is especially annoying at Dolemens. You cannot free the final lock or access the chest until you... so in that way, YES, it's extremely intrusive... ZOS should have at least picked a key that isn't bound to be your main 'interactive' key.
I blame the console peons!
If this is the case then they should add a 'Level Reward interactive' keybind, this would resolve the problem.CP: 2105 ** ESO+ ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭That it pops up during combat as well is the real problem - if it would pop up out of combat, it would be much less annoying.1