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New assasin's will is actually a dps loss

getemshauna
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Hello there! Many of you probably noticed the change to the Merciless Resolve ability, and I'm not talking about preserved stacks after reapplying the buff.
Since Dragon Bones update, stacks building assasin's will count when light attack HITS the target, not when light attack is RELEASED into the target - what means we are no longer able to shot assasin's will immediately after 5th light attack, just after 0.5-1s. This change dramatically reduces the possibility of shooting 3 bows in 20 seconds of the buff duration - and forces us to use skill between 5th and 6th light attack, what actually means assasin's will is shot AFTER 6th light attack.
Does anybody else noticed that, or maybe it's just my ping issue?
Edited by getemshauna on February 13, 2018 1:49AM
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  • LeagueTroll
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    Not bad, means potato like me can still keep up somewhat with heavy attack magsorc
  • Runefang
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    supaskrub wrote: »

    So its really just a change in rotation.

    (Proc the bow with 5 LAs) > Skill > LA > Fire the bow > End with a single stack available as the last LA hit now landed.

    Bit weird but still fine really. If anything as an Aussie it might actually help.
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    Runefang wrote: »
    supaskrub wrote: »

    So its really just a change in rotation.

    (Proc the bow with 5 LAs) > Skill > LA > Fire the bow > End with a single stack available as the last LA hit now landed.

    Bit weird but still fine really. If anything as an Aussie it might actually help.

    we live in a different world to them.
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    you are probably losing dps because the Hemorrhage passive is broken and not giving 10% more chd like it ought to.
  • pteam
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    you are probably losing dps because the Hemorrhage passive is broken and not giving 10% more chd like it ought to.

    How is it broken?
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  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    pteam wrote: »
    you are probably losing dps because the Hemorrhage passive is broken and not giving 10% more chd like it ought to.

    How is it broken?

    The passive 10% crit hit damage is not there. Simple as. Try it out. I did, on magic Damage skills and heal (sap essance) and stamina based damage skills and heals( power extraction and vigor).

    I first noticed it on my combat metrics report from a boss fight on my magblade, it said I had a 80% CHD and I know for a fact I ought to have 90% CHD, 17% from cp, 13% from shadow, 10% from hemorrhage. So I went though and tried amy stamblade too, same problem. 69% when I ought to have 79%, 19% from cp and 10% from hemorrhage.

    And yes, I had an assassination skill slotted when all the tests were done.
    Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on February 13, 2018 6:41AM
  • Trashs1
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    pteam wrote: »
    you are probably losing dps because the Hemorrhage passive is broken and not giving 10% more chd like it ought to.

    How is it broken?

    The passive 10% crit hit damage is not there. Simple as. Try it out. I did, on magic Damage skills and heal (sap essance) and stamina based damage skills and heals( power extraction and vigor.

    Wtf.. have to try this...
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  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Trashs1 wrote: »
    pteam wrote: »
    you are probably losing dps because the Hemorrhage passive is broken and not giving 10% more chd like it ought to.

    How is it broken?

    The passive 10% crit hit damage is not there. Simple as. Try it out. I did, on magic Damage skills and heal (sap essance) and stamina based damage skills and heals( power extraction and vigor.

    Wtf.. have to try this...

    Yes, please do, post screenshots if you can, I didn't have time before I had to stop playing. Every nightblade that responded to my request had the same issue though while I was playing.

    Made a thread about it, here, https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/395286/nightblade-passive-hemorrhage-bugged-and-not-working
    Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on February 13, 2018 7:03AM
  • Marabornwingrion
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    I'm still able to proc 3 bows in 20 secs duration, but I agree that something is broken.

    Everything seems delayed and it's not my connection issue (60 FPS, <100 ping).
    The bow procs doesn't show up on bar as fast as it used to before the patch.

    There were reports from PTS testers that something is wrong with this skill, but ZOS didn't care as usual.
    I hope it will be fixed ASAP, because this delay causes DPS loss.

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    NEW PATCH, NEW BUGS, ELDER BUGS ONLINE!!
  • geonsocal
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    totally can't wait for this change to hit consoles...for whatever reason - i seem completely incapable of counting to five to get the thing to proc...
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    At least PvPeers won't care. I mean Miat is gone, so entire Cyrodiil will now be invisible players one shooting one another from stealth :lol:
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  • Azurya
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    due to the server-issues yesterday, i was not able to play
    but until yesterday I was able to hit 3 times in my rotation
    would be a dramtically los in dps if that is no longer possible
    Edited by Azurya on February 13, 2018 9:26AM
  • glavius
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    pteam wrote: »
    you are probably losing dps because the Hemorrhage passive is broken and not giving 10% more chd like it ought to.

    How is it broken?

    The passive 10% crit hit damage is not there. Simple as. Try it out. I did, on magic Damage skills and heal (sap essance) and stamina based damage skills and heals( power extraction and vigor).

    I first noticed it on my combat metrics report from a boss fight on my magblade, it said I had a 80% CHD and I know for a fact I ought to have 90% CHD, 17% from cp, 13% from shadow, 10% from hemorrhage. So I went though and tried amy stamblade too, same problem. 69% when I ought to have 79%, 19% from cp and 10% from hemorrhage.

    And yes, I had an assassination skill slotted when all the tests were done.

    It still affects my damaging skills. But it stopped working for my heals (tested on no cp)
  • getemshauna
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    Today I've done a little bit more tests, so putting light attack before shooting assasins will gives 1 additional stack to the next proc, so ye, 3 bows are still easily possible. Anyway, skill looks completly different and using it is so clunky. Is that even intended?
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