stamblade help

Syiccal · January 2018

would shacklebreaker + another set be bis for main 5 peice on a stamblade

kylewwefan · January 2018

No. In PvE big NO. In PvP, it may have some use, but other sets are likely preferred.

Dreth · January 2018

It's hard to beat when it comes to a perfectly balanced set for a stamblade. A lot of it depends on how you want to play the class so it's hard to say if it's BIS but yes, it's a great choice for a lot of builds.

Asardes · January 2018

Gear
5 Eternal Hunt 3 Agility 2 Velidreth w Asylum 2H front bar & Master bow back bar

Skills
Front Bar: Executioner | Surprise Attack | Ambush | Relentless Focus | Rally || Dawnbreaker of Smiting
Back Bar: Poison Injection | Mass Hysteria | Shadowy Disguise | Piercing Mark | Resolving Vigor || Incapacitating Strike

Consumables
Maximum health+stamina food or Ozorga's Triple Trifle Pockets or Dubious Camoran Throne (though your health will be very low)
Double Ravage Health poisons, dropped stamina potions or crafted Weapon Power potions - in this case you can drop Rally for another utility skill like Leeching Strikes.

Pijng · January 2018

Asardes wrote: »

Gear
5 Eternal Hunt 3 Agility 2 Velidreth w Asylum 2H front bar & Master bow back bar

Skills
Front Bar: Executioner | Surprise Attack | Ambush | Relentless Focus | Rally || Dawnbreaker of Smiting
Back Bar: Poison Injection | Mass Hysteria | Shadowy Disguise | Piercing Mark | Resolving Vigor || Incapacitating Strike

Consumables
Maximum health+stamina food or Ozorga's Triple Trifle Pockets or Dubious Camoran Throne (though your health will be very low)
Double Ravage Health poisons, dropped stamina potions or crafted Weapon Power potions - in this case you can drop Rally for another utility skill like Leeching Strikes.

And no shuffle

Asardes · January 2018

Pijng wrote: »

Asardes wrote: »

Gear
5 Eternal Hunt 3 Agility 2 Velidreth w Asylum 2H front bar & Master bow back bar

Skills
Front Bar: Executioner | Surprise Attack | Ambush | Relentless Focus | Rally || Dawnbreaker of Smiting
Back Bar: Poison Injection | Mass Hysteria | Shadowy Disguise | Piercing Mark | Resolving Vigor || Incapacitating Strike

Consumables
Maximum health+stamina food or Ozorga's Triple Trifle Pockets or Dubious Camoran Throne (though your health will be very low)
Double Ravage Health poisons, dropped stamina potions or crafted Weapon Power potions - in this case you can drop Rally for another utility skill like Leeching Strikes.

And no shuffle

Well you can also run that in your felx spot if you use Weapon power potions. In this case you can move Piercing Mark on your front bar and run Shuffle instead from back bar.

akray21 · January 2018

So many stamblades like eternal hunt, but I like Shadow Walker personally. I rarely get that rune to hit when I need it, and SW provides the healing that stambaldes lack (provided that you can proc it when you need it).

KingJ · January 2018

You could go shackle and truth.

TimeDazzler · January 2018

Shackle breaker will never be better than bone pirate, if you really need the magicka use the magicka morph of siphoning.

JobooAGS · January 2018

which is better? Shacklebreaker or eternal hunt?

CallMeBigPapi · February 2018

Eternal Hunt is extremely overrated for a class that has amazing escape mechanics.

Shuffle is a MUST, you will die if you cant shuffle roll dodge and cloak with 22kish health

If you do use eternal hunt, you need to know how to use it offensively. Ever since sypherpk used it with selene's in a build video all the nb noobs have started using it, it's a waste of a set if you're not using it around corners and turning on people or placing the runes strategically.

Mislead people with your cloak instead.

It can be great on mobile stam classes (2h bow stam sorc for example) but is wasted on stamblade (with few exceptions)

Datthaw · February 2018

CallMeBigPapi wrote: »

Eternal Hunt is extremely overrated for a class that has amazing escape mechanics.

Shuffle is a MUST, you will die if you cant shuffle roll dodge and cloak with 22kish health

If you do use eternal hunt, you need to know how to use it offensively. Ever since sypherpk used it with selene's in a build video all the nb noobs have started using it, it's a waste of a set if you're not using it around corners and turning on people or placing the runes strategically.

Mislead people with your cloak instead.

It can be great on mobile stam classes (2h bow stam sorc for example) but is wasted on stamblade (with few exceptions)

I don't think eternal hunt is overrated at all. Great set for a stamblade. I have been running eternal/senche/selenes 5/5/2 dw and 2h and i absolutely love it.

But I agree, alot of people don't utilize the skill properly. There are other sets that are just as or maybe more effective, buts it comes down to playstyle and the way I like to play is popping in and out of Cloak and vamp stealth with ambush>incap>rollanimation cancel into some other attacks depending on the situation.

Pijng · February 2018

Datthaw wrote: »

CallMeBigPapi wrote: »

Eternal Hunt is extremely overrated for a class that has amazing escape mechanics.

Shuffle is a MUST, you will die if you cant shuffle roll dodge and cloak with 22kish health

If you do use eternal hunt, you need to know how to use it offensively. Ever since sypherpk used it with selene's in a build video all the nb noobs have started using it, it's a waste of a set if you're not using it around corners and turning on people or placing the runes strategically.

Mislead people with your cloak instead.

It can be great on mobile stam classes (2h bow stam sorc for example) but is wasted on stamblade (with few exceptions)

I don't think eternal hunt is overrated at all. Great set for a stamblade. I have been running eternal/senche/selenes 5/5/2 dw and 2h and i absolutely love it.

But I agree, alot of people don't utilize the skill properly. There are other sets that are just as or maybe more effective, buts it comes down to playstyle and the way I like to play is popping in and out of Cloak and vamp stealth with ambush>incap>rollanimation cancel into some other attacks depending on the situation.

Well, I think he meant that EH is overrated in terms of usability/efficiency for average player. And he was talking that nb has amazing esc mechanics by default, and EH (which adds even more "escape" ways) is excess, but for another stam classes is ok. But personally I think, that if you already have good escape stuff, then you can make it even better. Synergy, you know – the creation of a whole that is greater than the simple sum of its parts.
In this case running with EH you're becoming even more "pain-in-the-arse" than before. Of course if you can play it right.

Asardes · February 2018

You can use EH offensively by rolling into the target, rooting them, then cloaking, and hitting fear after they break free, and hitting them with incap. This way you drain most of their stamina.

Datthaw · February 2018

Pijng wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

CallMeBigPapi wrote: »

Eternal Hunt is extremely overrated for a class that has amazing escape mechanics.

Shuffle is a MUST, you will die if you cant shuffle roll dodge and cloak with 22kish health

If you do use eternal hunt, you need to know how to use it offensively. Ever since sypherpk used it with selene's in a build video all the nb noobs have started using it, it's a waste of a set if you're not using it around corners and turning on people or placing the runes strategically.

Mislead people with your cloak instead.

It can be great on mobile stam classes (2h bow stam sorc for example) but is wasted on stamblade (with few exceptions)

I don't think eternal hunt is overrated at all. Great set for a stamblade. I have been running eternal/senche/selenes 5/5/2 dw and 2h and i absolutely love it.

But I agree, alot of people don't utilize the skill properly. There are other sets that are just as or maybe more effective, buts it comes down to playstyle and the way I like to play is popping in and out of Cloak and vamp stealth with ambush>incap>rollanimation cancel into some other attacks depending on the situation.

Well, I think he meant that EH is overrated in terms of usability/efficiency for average player. And he was talking that nb has amazing esc mechanics by default, and EH (which adds even more "escape" ways) is excess, but for another stam classes is ok. But personally I think, that if you already have good escape stuff, then you can make it even better. Synergy, you know – the creation of a whole that is greater than the simple sum of its parts.
In this case running with EH you're becoming even more "pain-in-the-arse" than before. Of course if you can play it right.

Yeah I agree with the synergy of EH and cloak, amazing escape tool. Hit stealth, rolldodge to stun the chaser, pop cloak and you're gone baby. Some back from a different direction for round 2

Unfadingsilence · February 2018

I prefer my set up with "not showing master bow damage or enchantment" as well as continuous attack

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/UnfadingSilence/screenshot/8109495

45k max Stam 2.6k Stam recovery around 5k full buffed weapon damage

Running 5 BP, 5 Hulking, master bow and Asylum 2H pretty easy sets to obtain

Koensol · February 2018

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

I prefer my set up with "not showing master bow damage or enchantment" as well as continuous attack

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/UnfadingSilence/screenshot/8109495

45k max Stam 2.6k Stam recovery around 5k full buffed weapon damage

Running 5 BP, 5 Hulking, master bow and Asylum 2H pretty easy sets to obtain

How the hell do you achieve max weap dmg of 5k with those sets?

Asardes · February 2018

Koensol wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

I prefer my set up with "not showing master bow damage or enchantment" as well as continuous attack

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/UnfadingSilence/screenshot/8109495

45k max Stam 2.6k Stam recovery around 5k full buffed weapon damage

Running 5 BP, 5 Hulking, master bow and Asylum 2H pretty easy sets to obtain

How the hell do you achieve max weap dmg of 5k with those sets?

3.5K weapon damage - that's what's actually shown there - is not much in fact and you can hit that with pretty much any set combos if you have a nirnhoned weapon, weapon damage glyphs on jewelry and warrior mundus. Also 2.6K recovery looks a bit too much. I suspect that it's after a resource capture, making a kill with a 2H weapon equipped, popping a potion and activating Relentless Focus. But 5K weapon damage requires uni-color map, all scrolls held by his faction, emperor, enchant procced, his buddies spamming heals with SPC on and vigor and someone spamming Vigor with PA on nearby. That's why I only measure stats outside Cyrodiil, only accounting for my own buffs

Unfadingsilence · February 2018

Koensol wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

I prefer my set up with "not showing master bow damage or enchantment" as well as continuous attack

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/UnfadingSilence/screenshot/8109495

45k max Stam 2.6k Stam recovery around 5k full buffed weapon damage

Running 5 BP, 5 Hulking, master bow and Asylum 2H pretty easy sets to obtain

How the hell do you achieve max weap dmg of 5k with those sets?

Master bow gives an extra 300 damage plus enchantment of 452 and continuous attack with the multiplier for the Mundus Stone 5k easy damage tool tip for incap, 20k+ surprise attack 14k, vigor 16k ALL self buffs 100% solo

Unfadingsilence · February 2018

Working on a new set up now tho max Stam 50k 4k damage and 2k recovery it's beautiful