It's very much class specific.

On NB that has a decent execute in it's arsenal I would stick with DW 100% without fail.

On my stamplar I run 2H simply because the class as no reliable access to brutality

On my warden I run 2H simply because the class as no reliable access to an execute or gap closer without it.

Doesn't it make sense though to keep 2H for an NB if the primary weapon is a bow? What I mean is just slotting rally. Or is better to do Front Bar DW and back bar bow?

2H passives follow-up and battle-rush are super-super dope in PvP.
I find them absolutely impossible to dispense with.

VirtualElizabeth wrote: »

Arthg wrote: »

2H passives follow-up and battle-rush are super-super dope in PvP.
I find them absolutely impossible to dispense with.

Exactly. Which is why I want to back bar 2H just for Rally to buff my bow

Yes, you want the 2h for your major brutality buff, whether you use rally for heals if you're in medium (w/shuffle to remove snares) or the other morph Forward Momentum if you're in heavy to remove snares. Depends on how you want to play it. But you could do DW/2h (melee, 5-2 heavy) or Bow/2h (ranged 5-2 medium or 7 medium for ganking) or even S&S/2h (melee, 5-2 heavy). Even in a melee build you could go 5-2 medium but this would be influenced by gear choices, specifically ones that boost defense e.g. blood spawn.

Everything is cheesy if you loose to it!

Morgul667 wrote: »

Im usually more concerned about DW players as it often comes with experiences and tricky builds.

DW bleed builds are the deadliest dot builds in the game.

the only things to take away from the 2h tree i wish i could use on a different weapon tree is the follow up passive, the snare removal forward momentum gives me, and the execute... thats all i really need.

Really sucks that is the only snare removal i have access to if i want to run heavy is forward momentum. If the dw line had a snare removal and a heavy attack damage increase passive id switch over to dual wield... even if i was missing a proper execute.

There are many problems with the dual wield line on its own too...

like the 15 percent increase damage when an enemy is immobile really just makes it a gank friendly weapon as there are no real stamina roots to proc it reliably... were as if i land a fully charged heavy attack i get a 10 percent increase on the next hit. Outclassed by 2h.

Major brutality buff comes from throwing a dagger, and the damage is comparable to SnB spammables.... another skill that really shouldnt have major brutality tied into it. You need a target to gain major brutality which sucks. Outclassed by 2h.

No snare removal means your dead in the open world .... everything snares or roots.... this is the main reason to run forward momentum so your not stuck taking a beating from 10 people.

Also flurry and its morphs being a channel instead of being melee damage per hit really sucks too... you can do more burst damage than flurry will do by doing SnB LA+spammable+bash also because its a short animation you can continue to do it while having access to block if you have too.... you have to wait till the channel ends .6 seconds before you can cancel it. thats enough to really take away your burst window and conflicts if dw is not your main bar weapon...

Dual wield seems to be made for the stealth types exclusively... instead of it opting to be a well-rounded tree.