NPC hires for group dungeons?

ck37090 · February 2018

I just came back to the game (haven't played since beta/just after release), overall I am enjoying it....but one thing that is frustrating me is that I want to do some of these 4 man group dungeons but I'm waiting in cues for hours and not getting a group...I realize I can start joining guilds and get people that way but still sometimes you just want to do what you want to do when you want to do it and don't always want to have to force others into doing it then too....Is there any possibility of getting NPC hires to tag along with you for these 4 man group dungeons?

Colecovision · February 2018

I would love that. To go one step further, I'd like to hire my own alts. But I think we're supposed to join guilds and make friends and things like that. You can also roll a tank and the wait will never be longer than 1 minute.

Also, some idiot is probably going to tell you to go play skyrim. Just a heads up.

Glockcoma725 · February 2018

Colecovision wrote: »

You can also roll a tank and the wait will never be longer than 1 minute.

This all day. Just went from damage dealer to tank. Averaged 15-45 minute queues before, it is literally SECONDS now.

idk · February 2018

You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned joining a guild. After all this is an MMORPG and, imo, Zos has fortunately kept grouo content as group content.

One can also form groups from zone. Works best in zones we pick up undaunted pledges.

ck37090 · February 2018

maybe i'm wrong...but if I want to do a particular dungeon I should be able to select the dungeon in the finder and that should group me with people that also would like to complete that dungeon....well...either there are groups that are doing the dungeon I would like to do and don't need my character type...or nobody is wanting to do that dungeon...either way...i've waited in que for hours and don't get grouped...this is frustrating...I just want an option so I can play and enjoy the game.

LeagueTroll · February 2018

Lol no

Glockcoma725 · February 2018

Which dungeon exactly are you queuing for? Normal DLC dungeons are the longest queues I've ever seen, once waiting for almost two hours for either Mazzatun or Falkreath, (granted I was questing all the while) but any standard Dungeon queue should be less than an hour, usually roughly half hour at the longest.

Another thing you have to realize is that your banking on their being a DPS, Tank, and Healer all having queued for a random dungeon, then have to hope theres not another DPS in front of you thats queuing for a specific dungeon, that they all get queued to instead. You can always find the sheet for upcoming pledges, and watch for the day when yours comes up and queue repeatedly. Guaranteed you'll get multiple runs when its pledge day

ck37090 · February 2018

Glockcoma725 wrote: »

Which dungeon exactly are you queuing for? Normal DLC dungeons are the longest queues I've ever seen, once waiting for almost two hours for either Mazzatun or Falkreath, (granted I was questing all the while) but any standard Dungeon queue should be less than an hour, usually roughly half hour at the longest.

Another thing you have to realize is that your banking on their being a DPS, Tank, and Healer all having queued for a random dungeon, then have to hope theres not another DPS in front of you thats queuing for a specific dungeon, that they all get queued to instead. You can always find the sheet for upcoming pledges, and watch for the day when yours comes up and queue repeatedly. Guaranteed you'll get multiple runs when its pledge day

well, currently i'm queing crypt of hearts, I selected both vet and normal, i'm still in the que for 2-3 hours and not getting group...I just think if this is the case with these dungeons there needs to be an alternative method to doing them. I get there is some content in the game that people are either mostly done doing or don't have as much interest in doing anymore...I don't want to detract in anyway from grouping with other players...I just want to be able to play and enjoy the game and do things I wan to do...and if other players don't want to do the same things I want to do...just give me another option to do it...ie. let me hire some NPCs to do the stuff with

idk · February 2018

ck37090 wrote: »

maybe i'm wrong...but if I want to do a particular dungeon I should be able to select the dungeon in the finder and that should group me with people that also would like to complete that dungeon....well...either there are groups that are doing the dungeon I would like to do and don't need my character type...or nobody is wanting to do that dungeon...either way...i've waited in que for hours and don't get grouped...this is frustrating...I just want an option so I can play and enjoy the game.

Sorry to hear you've waited in queue for hours.

A really great idea is to find a tank to join yiu when you enter the GF. Speeds up queue times unless your doing this during the slowest time of the day. Again, a guild is great for this.

Regardless, we will not get NPC to join us for 4 man dungeons. It's just not going to happen. Sorry

Glockcoma725 · February 2018

Something is very wrong here. CoH should NEVER take that long. How are you playing ESO? Console or PC? EU or NA?

And you're queuing for dps right? As in you only have the DPS marker checked on Group Finder?

If by chance you ARE on PC-NA I need to grind some Crypt of Hearts myself for some Ebon Armory gear, worst case scenerio I can group up with you later this evening. But something is not adding up I have never seen a vanilla dungeon queue last that long. Granted it is mid-day in US, if you're in the NA server there could be alot of people at work but STILL, I would think it would be finding a group for you

ck37090 · February 2018

Glockcoma725 wrote: »

Something is very wrong here. CoH should NEVER take that long. How are you playing ESO? Console or PC? EU or NA?

And you're queuing for dps right? As in you only have the DPS marker checked on Group Finder?

If by chance you ARE on PC-NA I need to grind some Crypt of Hearts myself for some Ebon Armory gear, worst case scenerio I can group up with you later this evening. But something is not adding up I have never seen a vanilla dungeon queue last that long. Granted it is mid-day in US, if you're in the NA server there could be alot of people at work but STILL, I would think it would be finding a group for you

Yep... Correct on all accounts... I'm on PC NA... You are right it isn't prime time here... If characters carried over I would switch to the EU server... And maybe that would work better... I am a DPS sorc...I did the dungeon once... Took about three hours to get a group... Seemed straight forward, fast and easy to actually do the dungeon... I'm trying to get some items from there as well..

Ermiq · February 2018

I queue as a healer in vets and healer/dps in normals. If queueing takes more than 5 minutes I restart the queue and it finds the group for me in a minute mostly.
It's sad that DDs have to wait for hours. It means that there're really tons of DDs compared to tanks/healers in ESO. I wonder why? I've played a lot of MMOs and I never seen such imbalance in roles players prefer.
But I don't like the idea of hiring NPCs for dungeon runs. I don't like it because all games I've played had this feature when they had almost "dead" servers. ESO's doing fine (well, mostly fine, at least it hasn't any lack of active players), and ESO hasn't such problem as non-popular dungeons, so you actually can find a group for any dungeon. The problem is there're too many DDs in a queue, and making NPC tanks and NPC healers is not the best way to solve this problem, I believe.

Anotherone773 · February 2018

Im also on PC NA if you queue for dungeons during US peak, you can usually get a random normal in 20 minutes or less even as DPS. If you queue for specific dungeons or outside of peak your wait time will increase significantly.

Apparently, ( some) group dungeons are also soloable. From what ive seen though you will need to be able to push 20k dps sustained as well as self heal in order to do them reasonably. So high CP, good gear, and a decent build with a good rotation.I tried one around level 45, no CP and got owned by the trash before i got to far in.

I wouldnt be opposed to hirelings for normal dungeons, but not vet, if you were limited to the amount of times you could use them in a day to no more than 3 times a day.

Morgul667 · February 2018

Eremith wrote: »

I queue as a healer in vets and healer/dps in normals. If queueing takes more than 5 minutes I restart the queue and it finds the group for me in a minute mostly.
It's sad that DDs have to wait for hours. It means that there're really tons of DDs compared to tanks/healers in ESO. I wonder why? I've played a lot of MMOs and I never seen such imbalance in roles players prefer.
But I don't like the idea of hiring NPCs for dungeon runs. I don't like it because all games I've played had this feature when they had almost "dead" servers. ESO's doing fine (well, mostly fine, at least it hasn't any lack of active players), and ESO hasn't such problem as non-popular dungeons, so you actually can find a group for any dungeon. The problem is there're too many DDs in a queue, and making NPC tanks and NPC healers is not the best way to solve this problem, I believe.

I like to queue as DPS as im sure the bosses will down quickly.

I used to think queuing as a tank was good, well it is not. Most of the time you end up doing 60% of the DPS with only 2 -5 k DPS and fights take forever.

I queue as DPS tank for normal only. For Vet im preparing a tank heal character but still need a teammate to do the DPS