Where's the gold come from?
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Wreuntzylla✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I would think that, as with most games, the majority of the gold generation is coming from new or casual players. The largest population of gold-wealthy players are those that are active guild traders at hubs.
There are a number of schemes to amass large amounts of gold, but only so many people can participate in those schemes, because none of them generate new gold. Although most of the methods are probably known to people posting in this forum, I am constantly surprised when people who are generally in the know don't know something.
A good example is anyone posting that it's hard to farm furniture recipes. I want an in-game t-shirt that says, "Farming Vvardefell tombs since 2E584!
Which reminds me, its about time for another divulge-your-secrets thread.
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Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Most of my gold used to come from quests, treasure chests, mobs, and selling trash gear. I got a good million out of thievery while doing those achievements but never went back to it hardcore. So I imagine people are mostly just doing the aforementioned activities to get their gold.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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Stickbow✭✭✭WhitePawPrints wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Theft. Theft is a major way a lot of players, especially lowbies, can make a lot of cash quickly. Ornate drops are another.
Individually that doesn't add up to the full scope of the money flowing around in the system, but that's because there are a lot of players scampering around, hoovering up small gains here and there, only to turn around and buy moderately priced items, which then gets pooled and buys your stock.
There's also quests and dailies. Again, they don't pay out much individually, but I'm usually seeing somewhere around 15k per day from just doing basic writs on three characters, before I get into cracking the boxes.
Good points. I hadn't thought of writs.
I think stealing is overrated though. Even with max passives, and assuming you fill up your limit, you're probably only going to make about 15k a day...and that assumes an average sell price of 100g. It would take HOURS to pickpocket or steal just the blues and purples needed to go higher.
I make 15k in 30 minutes of theft. It’s not the best way to make gold but I do want that achievement by stealing a mil worth of loot.
What he said - though the "non player exchanged" gold is probably an hour's worth of pickpocketing/stealing from barrels. I got two purples, three greens and a white "treasure" (plus a gold housing item) from two guards this morning - in about five minutes. That is completely RNG, and not all that common, but still worth pointing out.
For the record, I spent three minutes letting a 97gp bounty cool down between two of the thefts, so five minutes is a "your mileage may vary" case.0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Did a farming loop around Craglorn with a character who has the Treasure Hunter passive. Not counting everything I'm putting up on the guild trader, I made 4k from gold from chests and mobs and from selling vendor junk and unwanted gear to NPCs.0 -
Saucy_Jack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Also keep in mind that waaaaaay back when the game first started, people were taking advantage of duping exploits that basically caused the mats market to crash. ZOS did what it could to ferret out and delete ill-gotten mats, but if people had already sold them here and there, other than banning the most serious offenders I don't think anyone's gold was touched. I might be wrong about that though.ALL HAIL SNUGGLORR THE MAGNIFICENT, KING OF THE RNG AND NIRN'S ONE TRUE GOD! Also, become a Scrub-scriber! SJ Scrubs: Playing games badly to make you feel better about yourself.0 -
firedrgn✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »Theft. Theft is a major way a lot of players, especially lowbies, can make a lot of cash quickly. Ornate drops are another.
Individually that doesn't add up to the full scope of the money flowing around in the system, but that's because there are a lot of players scampering around, hoovering up small gains here and there, only to turn around and buy moderately priced items, which then gets pooled and buys your stock.
There's also quests and dailies. Again, they don't pay out much individually, but I'm usually seeing somewhere around 15k per day from just doing basic writs on three characters, before I get into cracking the boxes.
Good points. I hadn't thought of writs.
I think stealing is overrated though. Even with max passives, and assuming you fill up your limit, you're probably only going to make about 15k a day...and that assumes an average sell price of 100g. It would take HOURS to pickpocket or steal just the blues and purples needed to go higher.
Blues are easier than u think on a lvled toon. But the realistic cap is 35k per day per toon.
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Kalante✭✭✭✭✭
✭I make a lot of gold by being people's eso gf a night for 500k gold.
Yea they are that desperate.0 -
jeedrzej✭✭✭✭✭I make 300k per week from crafting writs on 12 characters.Jeedrzej - Magica Dragonknight lvl 50
Ealian Elieilijas - Magica Sorcerer lvl 50
Enerias Kazner - Magica Templar lvl 50
Marcelius SIlny - Stamina Dragonknight lvl 50
Anvena Kazner - Stamina NIghtblade lvl 50
Arcynekromantka Anastazja - Magica Nightblade lvl 50
Threiva Krwawooka - Stamina Sorcerer lvl 50
Anvena Karen - Stamina Templat lvl 50
Furia Dorathis - Stamina Dragonknight lvl 50
Verinia Dziecię Światła - Magica Templar lvl 50
Anwen Llenariolis - Magica Warden lvl 50
Welandil Mroźne Serce - Magicka Warden lvl 50
Brunein Silny - Stamina Warden lvl 50
Jilialis Szept Nocy - Magicka Sorcerer lvl 50
Dareiva Tancerka Cieni - Stamina NIghtblade lvl 50
Doweriusz Desson - Magicka Necromancer lvl 40
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Loves_guars✭✭✭✭✭
✭What I don't understand about selling mats for gold... don't you feel bad about selling them? Lol, I always feel like I'm going to need them later, for new gear or even to do daily writs. Damn I even had to BUY mats to do the writs. The surveys are not enough for me.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Saucy_Jack wrote: »Also keep in mind that waaaaaay back when the game first started, people were taking advantage of duping exploits that basically caused the mats market to crash. ZOS did what it could to ferret out and delete ill-gotten mats, but if people had already sold them here and there, other than banning the most serious offenders I don't think anyone's gold was touched. I might be wrong about that though.
To be fair, that's still just moving gold between players. The big issue back then was that provisioning was way more lucrative than it is now. (Common level 5 green food would vendor for something like 27 gold, so you could easily sit down, craft a couple stacks of food, turn around, and pocket 10k in five minutes.) (Strictly speaking, you can still do this, but the profit margin is much worse today. If you want to spend an hour turning 10k worth of mats into 15k gold, feel free to knock yourself out, I'm not interested.)
The other thing was, used to be there was no cooldown on deleting characters. So bots would get rolled up, complete the basic meet and greet in Coldharbour, get 170 gold (or so), then mail the gold to their controller account, delete the character, roll up a new one, and repeat. The Windhelm race was another popular quest for that.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I don't do any trading with players, so... when I wanted to buy Hundings Palatial Hall ($1.3m), I did: daily writs on several characters, sold the gear I got from those writs, and (most of the characters were in Daggerfall) did a run through the ships looting stolen goods after I turned in their writs on the dock. Took like a month and a half or so, but I got there eventually. Most gold I've ever had. And then it was gone.
So yeah - writs, vendoring looted gear, fencing stolen goods. That's where 90%+ of my gold comes from.
Also, sometimes I'll craft up a few thousand gold worth of poisons or food to vendor. (yay, crafting mods)
But I also don't buy much from guild stores, either. 15k for a stack of raw silk? Heck no.
(mostly, I've only bought traits to research. Now that I'm mostly down to needing Nirnhoned, that's gotten expensive.)0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭cecibergesnrb18_ESO wrote: »What I don't understand about selling mats for gold... don't you feel bad about selling them? Lol, I always feel like I'm going to need them later, for new gear or even to do daily writs. Damn I even had to BUY mats to do the writs. The surveys are not enough for me.
I don't have the crafting bag, so its either sell what I farm or drown in mats. Gold is easier to store than stacks of materials.0 -
disintegr8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭6 Daily crafting writs a day on 8 characters is close to 1 million a month, on top of that you can sell the tempers, alloys and other items you get from the rewards containers. I have always sold gold improvement mats, only keeping between 150 and 200 on hand for personal use and the occasional bulk sale.
For a while I've been making a bit selling the smaller master writs I get, because I have over 2500 vouchers and refuse to complete smaller writs. Any 'legendary' writ less than about 75 vouchers value gets sold as well as any 'epic' quality writs under about 40 (including all enchanting/provisioning/alchemy writs I get).
I've spent nearly 30 million on housing and still have over 8 million.Australian on PS4 NA server.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion.0 -
Beamer_Miasma✭✭✭Some I didn't see mentioned: garbage from dolmens (daedra husks, elem. essence, green/blue/low level jewellery), considering the fact that almost every dolmen is permanently camped half the day this generates a lot of gold from NPC vendors. Similarly carapaces, roots and such that drop from certain mobs, depending on where you're hunting you can pick them up by the hundreds and before the crow quests vendoring them was all they were good for. Then there's filled soul gems, 6K a stack, with 2/2 in Soul Lock I sell a stack each week or so, and I don't even hunt that much. Cloudy poisons, essence of stamina and essence of health (the magicka is the only one worth selling to players on my server). Side catch from fishing like the furniture fishes and paintings, seaweed piles etc.
Everyone gets at least some of these on a daily basis adding up to a few K a day. Multiply that by thousands of players and a thousand days and you're talking billions. It tends not to stand out because it's all only a couple of gold per item, but when you add it all up it's a lot more than you would expect.
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✭✭✭cecibergesnrb18_ESO wrote: »What I don't understand about selling mats for gold... don't you feel bad about selling them? Lol, I always feel like I'm going to need them later, for new gear or even to do daily writs. Damn I even had to BUY mats to do the writs. The surveys are not enough for me.
Thats a hoarder mentality( i tend to have one too in games), i had to train myself to let stuff go. i did that by:
* Thinking logically, if i acquired it once, i can acquire it again.
* I make notes of any spots i think are good for farming certain items or certain groups of items.
* I dont sell off any mats for woodworking, clothier, blacksmithing because i havent decided what i want to do with future characters. I will likely start selling off when i make another character and start gathering on that one.
* I sell some of my alchemy ingredients in stacks of 10s. I use pots i pick up in open world for general use. Later on ill likely make my own.
* I sell provisioning stuff once i get over 300, usually in quarter or half stacks.
* For gold mats, i keep a reserve of 10 and sell the rest.
* I keep all the furniture/improvements mats because i will using those in the near future and likely have to buy more.
When im in the open world, i run everywhere, loot everything, pick every node in my path and open every chest. You would be surprised all the valuables people just blow by because they are in a hurry. Their trash, my treasure.0
