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Q: Are you all done building Cyrodiil or will there be any PvP updates?
A: There will be plenty of updates to Cyrodiil as the game lives on. There are already plans for the first few patches!

any comment @ZOS_MichaelM @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GaryA @ZOS_TristanK @ZOS_BrianWheeler ? its 2018 and youre FAQ hasn't been updated for 4 years.

Most frequently asked question in 2018 are you going to actually fix cyrodiil?

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Edited by ZOS_MattL on February 9, 2018 5:04PM
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    This isn't going to end well. :D
  • bigdavid11b16_ESO
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    this is a legit question
  • bigdavid11b16_ESO
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    just keep it clean
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    Edited by DoctorESO on September 23, 2018 1:27AM
  • bigdavid11b16_ESO
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    link to what. faq? its been at the top of the forums since April 2014
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    Edited by DoctorESO on September 23, 2018 1:27AM
  • bigdavid11b16_ESO
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    updates to "cyrodiil", balance changes has nothing to do with the zone and performance
  • Reverb
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    They removed lightning bugs and deer. And resource doors. And made towns capturable, then they reduced the amount of RotW mails we get, only to double the amount of AP for everything. And they encouraged PvDoor by making capturing undefended resources worth more AP than defending a keep or a scroll for an hour. Oh, and they've reduced the pop cap, twice.

    Those all count as changes. Not the ones most people wanted, but they are changes. Brian wasn't wrong.
    Edited by Reverb on January 28, 2018 2:32AM
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  • Zer0oo
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    They have been busy to repaint crownstore items.

    I think the pvp team is seriously understaffed or busy with other things and it seems pvp has a really low priority.
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    I agree performance should be prioritized at this point.
    Its not a Cyrodiil only problem its just the most noticeable there imo.

    I think they know what the problem is but that there is no easy fix for it, i even think Gina said so once (no magic bullet iirc).
    They should have reverted back when things went south (lightning patch?) but after so long and lots of updates thats not possible anymore now.

    Tl,dr: i doubt the performance issues will ever get fixed at this point. Even house editor is laggy
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    Edited by DoctorESO on September 23, 2018 1:31AM
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    link to what. faq? its been at the top of the forums since April 2014

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  • IZZEFlameLash
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    Inb4 lock? Plz fix Cyrodiil so I can actually coordinate my killing combo instead of spamming defense skills because bars swapped twice or never swapped because of lag.
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  • NyassaV
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    Performance has always sucked. But they added towns so they didn't totally lie
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    It all starts with a very loosely defined "plenty".
  • SirAndy
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    Q: Are you all done building Cyrodiil or will there be any PvP updates?
    A: There will be plenty of updates to Cyrodiil as the game lives on. There are already plans for the first few patches!

    I don't see where he promised any performance improvements ...
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    Hollery wrote: »
    Performance has always sucked. But they added towns so they didn't totally lie

    It didn’t always suck. Before the lightning patch and the bot patch pretty close to eachother we used to have 150+ each faction fighting at nickel with great performance. Look at some of the first months of pvp videos and it’s clear that the game could handle it at some point. We even still had wildlife and non guard NPC’s there too. The lag if today has killed all that though.
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    There have been very regular updates to Cyrodiil, actually, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Balance changes, new vendors, terrain adjustments, forward camp changes, AP adjustments, that entire yearly festival focused on PvP, new skills, the Battle Spirit buff, AoE changes, and that's just off the top of my head. Maybe be more constructive and say which specific things you're looking to change?
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    The lag is also no where near the depraved state of play compared to 1.5+

    Continuous changes behind the scenes have improved this, can only get better.

    With the no Aoe-cap next update, the long lived myth of 'if they die quicker, the less computation etc' will be put to the test.
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    There's a plenty of lag in Cyrodiil for sure. What a feature!
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  • Zbigb4life
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    Q: Are you all done building Cyrodiil or will there be any PvP updates?
    A: There will be plenty of updates to Cyrodiil as the game lives on. There are already plans for the first few patches!

    COMPLETE Lie. any comment @ZOS_MichaelM @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GaryA @ZOS_TristanK @ZOS_BrianWheeler ? its 2018 and youre FAQ hasn't been updated for 4 years.

    Most frequently asked question in 2018 are you going to actually fix cyrodiil?

    Well all they care about is making money from dyes, costumes and mounts. They just aren't interested in Cyrodill
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    How is this a lie? As many above have mentioned there has been plenty of stuff updated in Cyrodiil since launch

    Just because it's not what you want doesn't mean it's not valid.

    As far as anyone of us here can tell, Wheeler probably flies solo when it comes to maintaining Cyrodiil. He's not responsible for combat systems, network performance, level design, etc. You want something more? Ask ZOS for it instead of calling Wheeler a liar or claiming lies when that is factually false.

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    Recremen wrote: »
    There have been very regular updates to Cyrodiil, actually, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Balance changes, new vendors, terrain adjustments, forward camp changes, AP adjustments, that entire yearly festival focused on PvP, new skills, the Battle Spirit buff, AoE changes, and that's just off the top of my head. Maybe be more constructive and say which specific things you're looking to change?

    I don't agree.
    Balance changes are adjustments to skills/sets, not to cyrodiil
    New vendors are again gear. No changes to how cyrodiil plays.
    Terrain adjustments.. Hmm, are the just minor buxfixes to stop getting stuck that we haven't seen any of for ages? While important, bug fixes are not 'new stuff'
    Forward camp changes.. Again, its in the bugfiz/balance category
    AP adjustments.. Comes under balancing.
    A festival that just makes queues/lag worse. Good job its only for a couple of weeks in the year.
    AOE changes.. Again, balance.

    So really, its all bug fixes/balance and a single festival.

    WHERE IS THE CONTENT?

    Where are the changes that 'freshen up' cyro, making it interesting again. Where are the major layout changes to really change the flow of combat and break up the mega-zergs? Where are the new siege mechanics, keep designs, resource mechanics, campaign scoring, emp mechanics, etc..

    PVEers would have all left long ago if they got this level of content.
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    Biro123 wrote: »
    Recremen wrote: »
    There have been very regular updates to Cyrodiil, actually, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Balance changes, new vendors, terrain adjustments, forward camp changes, AP adjustments, that entire yearly festival focused on PvP, new skills, the Battle Spirit buff, AoE changes, and that's just off the top of my head. Maybe be more constructive and say which specific things you're looking to change?

    I don't agree.
    Balance changes are adjustments to skills/sets, not to cyrodiil
    New vendors are again gear. No changes to how cyrodiil plays.
    Terrain adjustments.. Hmm, are the just minor buxfixes to stop getting stuck that we haven't seen any of for ages? While important, bug fixes are not 'new stuff'
    Forward camp changes.. Again, its in the bugfiz/balance category
    AP adjustments.. Comes under balancing.
    A festival that just makes queues/lag worse. Good job its only for a couple of weeks in the year.
    AOE changes.. Again, balance.

    So really, its all bug fixes/balance and a single festival.

    WHERE IS THE CONTENT?

    Where are the changes that 'freshen up' cyro, making it interesting again. Where are the major layout changes to really change the flow of combat and break up the mega-zergs? Where are the new siege mechanics, keep designs, resource mechanics, campaign scoring, emp mechanics, etc..

    PVEers would have all left long ago if they got this level of content.

    @Biro123

    The only major layout change I remember involved the milegates getting those sick platforms to do fights around. I don't think they ever planned to change keep mechanics. Campaign scoring actually DID get an overhaul, and different campaigns score differently. Emp has been the same. Oh, resources got their doors taken off, which was an absolutely fantastic move. Really the only thing I could see them changing is keep layout, and even then not by a whole lot.

    IDK a lot of things you're suggesting don't seem feasible. They're never going to do a full rework of Cyro just to keep it fresh, so the terrain is mostly going to be the same. Emp mechanic works fine, so why fix what isn't broken? And literally nothing will stop the megazergs. AoE caps are fully going away but what's that going to do? Biggest AoEs are what, caltrops and proxy det? You're lucky to hit 10 people with that even right now. There's still gonna be 80 people at a keep at once if they're so motivated.

    Not that I think they can't add more legit content, I just think we've gotta be realistic about what gets added.
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