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Why hybrid is bad
LeagueTroll
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Seeing a lot pro hybrid posts lately. Things like unlink dmg from max attributes. Personally, I am very against hybrid build. It is just too complicated. If max mag no longer affect mag dps. No one will run inner light, mag will have 2 more skills added to rotation. Complex rotation will only benefit higher skilled players more. Most of the ppl who cry about their crappy hybrid build not viable now will likely cry more if legit hybrid is viable. These ppl can’t even do easy stuff, most of them just want to be able to spam both snipe and breath of life.
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Edited by ZOS_Mika on February 5, 2018 2:22PM [Edited for non-constructive title]
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ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You could've just said "Why Hybrid is a bad idea".
Getting kinda tired of people using the word for life threatening illnesses in this way.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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LeagueTroll✭✭✭✭✭
Plz stam is already stronger than mag. All mag has is wizard riposte and amberplasm, amber was nerfed too.Silver_Strider wrote: »Wtb Stamina Amberplasm set.
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DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭So because people stink at pure builds my hybrid should pull 12 thousand damage per second less than my pure build? I'm not following the chain of logic here.
Inb4 "hybrids should do less damage": absolutely, but more like 5k less, not more than double that. People (correctly) moan over warden doing 5k less than other dps specs.7 -
LeagueTroll✭✭✭✭✭@DocFrost72 Ppl who complain about hybrid not viable now. It is not like they have some 8 dots rotation. Like what i said, most of them just want to spam both breath of life and snipe.Edited by LeagueTroll on February 4, 2018 4:38PM1
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pauli133✭✭✭✭✭
✭I really, really think you need to stop using terms you clearly don't understand.25 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LOL, this thread got derailed quickly!
Anyway, I think you would hear a lot less crying for hybrids if Stamina and Magicka were balanced a lot more closely. Right now, Stamina is a lot more powerful except in a zerg.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE1 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭People are going to cry at anything.
Changes..
No changes..
Buffs...
Nerfs....
It's a forum.3 -
Lynx7386✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LeagueTroll wrote: »Seeing a lot pro hybrid posts lately. Things like unlink dmg from max attributes. Personally, I am very against hybrid build. It is just too complicated. If max mag no longer affect mag dps. No one will run inner light, mag will have 2 more skills added to rotation. Complex rotation will only benefit higher skilled players more. Most of the ppl who cry about their crappy hybrid build not viable now will likely cry more if legit hybrid is viable. These ppl can’t even do easy stuff, most of them just want to be able to spam both snipe and breath of life.
I'm sorry if we're suggesting something too complicated for you to grasp. Sounds like a personal problem.PS4 / NA
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Lynx7386✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LeagueTroll wrote: »
Plz stam is already stronger than mag. All mag has is wizard riposte and amberplasm, amber was nerfed too.Silver_Strider wrote: »Wtb Stamina Amberplasm set.
So really your problem here isnt hybrids, it's any playstyle that isnt your playstyle. Get over yourself.PS4 / NA
M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
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Lynx7386✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭LeagueTroll wrote: »@DocFrost72 Ppl who complain about hybrid not viable now. It is not like they have some 8 dots rotation. Like what i said, most of them just want to spam both breath of life and snipe.
You clearly have absolutely no fricking idea what a hybrid build is. I suggest you stop posting, before you make yourself look even more laughable.PS4 / NA
M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank4 -
alainjbrennanb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭LeagueTroll wrote: »Seeing a lot pro hybrid posts lately. Things like unlink dmg from max attributes. Personally, I am very against hybrid build. It is just too complicated. If max mag no longer affect mag dps. No one will run inner light, mag will have 2 more skills added to rotation. Complex rotation will only benefit higher skilled players more. Most of the ppl who cry about their crappy hybrid build not viable now will likely cry more if legit hybrid is viable. These ppl can’t even do easy stuff, most of them just want to be able to spam both snipe and breath of life.
i have a hybrid who is a dd pn a single bar and i get 30k dps her bk bar has heals just incase healer goes down and tuant incase tank goes down, they are hard to get right but when u do they are gratMain character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike2 -
Kwik1✭✭✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »So because people stink at pure builds my hybrid should pull 12 thousand damage per second less than my pure build? I'm not following the chain of logic here.
Inb4 "hybrids should do less damage": absolutely, but more like 5k less, not more than double that. People (correctly) moan over warden doing 5k less than other dps specs.
I said in another post that my personal opinion is that hybrids should do 30-40% less then a pure spec.
If the pure spec is doing 30k then that would be 9k-12k less so that's about right.
Hybrids should be much less since they tend to be more surviveable. Pure specs become glass cannons in a lot of situations and need to have substantially more DPS to show for it.
No to hybrids being anywhere near a pure spec.2 -
LeagueTroll✭✭✭✭✭LeagueTroll wrote: »
Plz stam is already stronger than mag. All mag has is wizard riposte and amberplasm, amber was nerfed too.Silver_Strider wrote: »Wtb Stamina Amberplasm set.
So really your problem here isnt hybrids, it's any playstyle that isnt your playstyle. Get over yourself.
My play style is easy stuff and can work. Not complex stuff take forever and still do 70% of what top tier do. And hybrid is obv more complex.
If you are good, tell me what class r u, how much dps you pull on a 6 mil parse.0 -
LeagueTroll✭✭✭✭✭LeagueTroll wrote: »@DocFrost72 Ppl who complain about hybrid not viable now. It is not like they have some 8 dots rotation. Like what i said, most of them just want to spam both breath of life and snipe.
You clearly have absolutely no fricking idea what a hybrid build is. I suggest you stop posting, before you make yourself look even more laughable.
Well defined ur version of hybrid then. See who is really worse.
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LordSemaj✭✭✭✭✭No to hybrids being anywhere near a pure spec.
You must really hate World of Warcraft, EverQuest 1&2, Final Fantasy XIV, Dark Age of Camelot, RIFT, Lineage, Darkfall, Shadowbane, Ultima Online, Runescape, Secret World, Asheron's Call, Anarchy Online, Crowfall or pretty much any other MMORPG.5 -
DoctorESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I really, really think you need to stop using terms you clearly don't understand.Stovahkiin wrote: »
i couldn't agree with the both of you more.Stovahkiin wrote: »
All of you speak nothing less than the pure, non-hybrid truth.1 -
DieAlteHexe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You could've just said "Why Hybrid is a bad idea".
Getting kinda tired of people using the word for life threatening illnesses in this way.
Yup. So many other words could be used rather than that one. Please give it some consideration?
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OutLaw_Nynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭“Hybrids are dumb”
“reasons why I dislike Hybrid builds”
“This totally isn’t click bait”
“I’m really angry because people are discussing things they’d like to see on the forums”
You could have used any of these for your title.
It cost $0.00 to not make post like this.6 -
LeagueTroll✭✭✭✭✭
Because hybrid build requires a higher APM rate due to more skills. Thus more likely to cause physical pain.0 -
DoctorESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭LeagueTroll wrote: »
Because hybrid build requires a higher APM rate due to more skills. Thus more likely to cause physical pain.
Everyone is still limited to 12 skills (6 per bar). Exception for Overload Sorcerers.0 -
LeagueTroll✭✭✭✭✭LeagueTroll wrote: »
Because hybrid build requires a higher APM rate due to more skills. Thus more likely to cause physical pain.
Everyone is still limited to 12 skills (6 per bar). Exception for Overload Sorcerers.LeagueTroll wrote: »
Because hybrid build requires a higher APM rate due to more skills. Thus more likely to cause physical pain.
Everyone is still limited to 12 skills (6 per bar). Exception for Overload Sorcerers.
Read what i said. Skills like inner light ppl just slot for stat. No one will slot it if dmg no longer link to max stat.
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Kwik1✭✭✭✭No to hybrids being anywhere near a pure spec.
You must really hate World of Warcraft, EverQuest 1&2, Final Fantasy XIV, Dark Age of Camelot, RIFT, Lineage, Darkfall, Shadowbane, Ultima Online, Runescape, Secret World, Asheron's Call, Anarchy Online, Crowfall or pretty much any other MMORPG.
I don't play those games anymore. I like that in ESO I know pure specs are ahead in most DPS meters which is how it should be in my opinion. Make a hybrid for more survivability but understand your DPS should be a lot less because of that.
I love the argument that other games do it and it works fine. If they are fine then why aren't people who want hybrids playing them? Stop trying to change ESO into those other games and just play those other games LOL. For me when hybrids were more viable in ESO it was much more broken, now that pure specs do what they are intended, it makes me like this game more and more. I understand wanting to be able to do a lot of different builds, but lets not sacrifice a pure spec in the process. If you want to play a Beastmaster or Shadowknight that is just fine, go play Everquest.1 -
LordSemaj✭✭✭✭✭I love the argument that other games do it and it works fine. If they are fine then why aren't people who want hybrids playing them? Stop trying to change ESO into those other games and just play those other games LOL.
I love the argument that other people are trying to change ESO into hybrid friendly. If it was never meant to be, why was it originally? Stop trying to change ESO into a purist paradise while other people are merely wanting back the game they originally purchased.
It was changed because of whiners and now you're criticizing whining as a means of restoring it.Edited by LordSemaj on February 4, 2018 8:07PM3 -
Feidam✭✭✭@LeagueTroll then they can redesign inner light. I have always found it stupid that people are slotting skills for passives only and not actually utilizing said skill.0 -
SilverIce58✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@LeagueTroll then they can redesign inner light. I have always found it stupid that people are slotting skills for passives only and not actually utilizing said skill.
I agree, altho ironically, I use bound aegis for the resistances/more magicka.PC - NACP 1125
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