Yea, I know. But Still Skyrim makes me hate Elderscroll online

timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO · January 2018

Stuff like this make me unhappy

- But in a mmorpg, stuff like this needs to be random spawn, and not the same, so it can be looked up on google. But thats also all there needs to be changed!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0OTcWTLbDw

Dottzgaming · January 2018

Not sure what your post is trying to say exactly, but my guess is that it's "i wish this mechanic existed in ESO"

Youre looking at a single player game versus a multiplayer game, so there has to be major difference between the two just due to the nature of the games. Systems like that can obviously occur in a single player game because there aren't other players, and thus no player-based economy. If you could simply turn iron ore into Rubedite ore with a single spell, there would be an influx of extra resources into the economy and into the game thus driving the supply way up and crashing the value of Rubedite.

While yeah it was a cool system in skyrim, it wouldn't have a place in an online game like ESO. I mean maybe if it was gated behind a skill line so that you'd have to put in a lot of time to do use a spell like that? Because If you made it too easy, bots would get there hands on it and the cost of highlevel mats would crumble. I just dont think it has a place personally.

timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO · January 2018

Dottzgaming wrote: »

Not sure what your post is trying to say exactly, but my guess is that it's "i wish this mechanic existed in ESO"

And yes i knwo its a singleplayer vs a multiplayer But that has nothing to do with a system like this -it has to do with, a lazy design choice

Youre looking at a single player game versus a multiplayer game, so there has to be major difference between the two just due to the nature of the games. Systems like that can obviously occur in a single player game because there aren't other players, and thus no player-based economy. If you could simply turn iron ore into Rubedite ore with a single spell, there would be an influx of extra resources into the economy and into the game thus driving the supply way up and crashing the value of Rubedite.

While yeah it was a cool system in skyrim, it wouldn't have a place in an online game like ESO. I mean maybe if it was gated behind a skill line so that you'd have to put in a lot of time to do use a spell like that? Because If you made it too easy, bots would get there hands on it and the cost of highlevel mats would crumble. I just dont think it has a place personally.

pauli133 · January 2018

This is baffling.

Szane · January 2018

Comparing single player game mechanics to a multiplayer game? Sure

Kuramas9tails · January 2018

I never knew this in Skyrim.

Glockcoma725 · January 2018

Somewhat unrelated, I always broke Skyrim's economy as soon as possible by taking followers into the ruins beneath markarth and smelting every piece of dwarven metal possible/smithing and selling improved cuirasses to every merchant in game. Fun times

Jitterbug · January 2018

Wait... this isnt skyrim?

Aliyavana · January 2018

It's already easy to make gold in this game, nty

Asardes · January 2018

Such a feature would actually be useful, since ZoS has decided to punish people who do the daily crafting writs with loads of useless low level materials that barely sell above vendor price in guild store because few people need them. I would implement such a feature as an enchanted furnace furnishing, purchasable with vouchers from Roris Hlaalu, that takes low level ingots, wood, cloth and leather and transforms them into higher level tier material at increasing rates.

Varana · January 2018

I despise that spell in Skyrim with a passion.

Really, there's traders and craftsmen and rich and poor people and all the other things that try to create the illusion that that'd be an actual world with an actual economy. (Notice the "illusion" part.)

And then there comes that spell, just lying around - right next to the first main hub you come to - in a cave full of bandits who, for some reason, try to make a living with illegal activities, instead of picking up that book and start mining.

This Skyrim spell is effing ridiculous, and should be nuked into Oblivion. And there, tortured to death for eternity.

Nothing to do with ESO, though.

Ch4mpTW · January 2018

Skyrim has a myriad of benefits over ESO. Waterbreathing and the ability to go under water is 1 of them, as well as the ability to fight dragons and take residual damage from certain enemy encounters. For example, if you get into an encounter with the wrong type of wildlife? You could contract a disease, which could limit your stamina regeneration and ahat not. There are actual consequences to consider when going about certain encounters and journeys. ESO could learn a thing or too about immersion from Skyrim in that regards.

JamuThatsWho · January 2018

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Skyrim has a myriad of benefits over ESO. Waterbreathing and the ability to go under water is 1 of them, as well as the ability to fight dragons and take residual damage from certain enemy encounters. For example, if you get into an encounter with the wrong type of wildlife? You could contract a disease, which could limit your stamina regeneration and ahat not. There are actual consequences to consider when going about certain encounters and journeys. ESO could learn a thing or too about immersion from Skyrim in that regards.

It's an MMO.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · January 2018

This type of thing did exist at launch. It wasn't a good thing. ZOS also knew it existed and still launched. I should have see that behavior for the canary in the coal mine that it was.

There is a reason you still can't stack things in your guild bank.

Sergykid · January 2018

this wasn't good even in Skyrim. Mana cost for 25x the gold from an item? Game-breaking feature.

and in ESO you can make much gold pretty easy, moreover you don't have what to spend it on. Anything in the game can be self-acquired (except maybe some grind things, like motifs).

if this was a poll would have voted no.

LadyNalcarya · January 2018

...Its actually pretty easy to make gold in ESO.
And you can already find a super rare mountain of gold in a form of Aetherial dust and Aedric Cipher.

Or a less rare nirncrux stone.

SydneyGrey · January 2018

Trying to figure out what this post has to do with ESO ...

inespeloazul · January 2018

Varana wrote: »

I despise that spell in Skyrim with a passion.

Really, there's traders and craftsmen and rich and poor people and all the other things that try to create the illusion that that'd be an actual world with an actual economy. (Notice the "illusion" part.)

And then there comes that spell, just lying around - right next to the first main hub you come to - in a cave full of bandits who, for some reason, try to make a living with illegal activities, instead of picking up that book and start mining.

That's exactly what they were doing. If you didn't notice, they were inside an iron mine, and near where you find the spell, there are several samples of iron and a few of silver. The boss was trying to supplement the income they made poaching mammoths and waylaying travelers with transmuted gold.

Anyways, funny how someone would compare ESO to Skyrim when they're two very different kinds of games, yet when you compare Skyrim to its predecessors (games it should be compared to) it's the game that comes up short, especially with things like spell effects.

Varana · January 2018

And still, they were holed up in a cave, instead of living their life in a luxurious mansion.
Trying to insert a spell fundamentally breaking the economy, into a supposedly working economy, is an attempt doomed to fail from the start.

P.S. Not wanting to derail the thread, but Skyrim was better than Oblivion in every sense.

Anotherone773 · February 2018

Its really easy to make gold in this game as it is. Things that are awesome in a SP game are not usually a good idea in MMOs.

NewBlacksmurf · February 2018

MMO doesn’t mean X and Y must happen like other server based RPG games.

This could exist, it all depends on the game engine and the server intent among other things ....you guys gotta play other games there a lot of possibilities outside of the rinse and repeats in different skins

VaranisArano · February 2018

Transmuting Iron into gold is simple in ESO!

Pick up raw iron ore from the ground. Sell it to a merchant or on a guild store, or refine it and sell the results to a merchant or a guild store. Voila, gold! You don't even need a spell!

Actually, its even better than Skyrim. You aren't limited to iron ore/ingots. You can do it with ore, cloth, wood, insects, fish, flowers, mushrooms, runes, heck, practically anything in the game can be transmuted into gold. Shiny, clinky gold!

No skill at Alteration magic required.

klowdy1 · February 2018

I was thinking skyrim makes me hate TES. Such an overhyped game.

VaranisArano · February 2018

klowdy1 wrote: »

I was thinking skyrim makes me hate TES. Such an overhyped game.

I recently started playing Skyrim again and its held up very well for a game from 2011. Morrowind had better world-building, but Skyrim's leveling system is the most intuitive of the most recent 3 TES games.

Resfeber · February 2018

Why would this even be necessary? I wasn't even trying and had way way more gold than I knew what to do with in Skyrim with nothing to spend it on. Imo ESO is harder and even that isn't bad as long as you're actually making an effort.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO · February 2018

Iccotak · February 2018

JamuThatsWho wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Skyrim has a myriad of benefits over ESO. Waterbreathing and the ability to go under water is 1 of them, as well as the ability to fight dragons and take residual damage from certain enemy encounters. For example, if you get into an encounter with the wrong type of wildlife? You could contract a disease, which could limit your stamina regeneration and ahat not. There are actual consequences to consider when going about certain encounters and journeys. ESO could learn a thing or too about immersion from Skyrim in that regards.

It's an MMO.

Sure but there are certain aspects that would provide it more Immersion and could make it a better game.
Its an MMO but it is still part of Elder Scrolls and they should take that into account when making content and improvements.

klowdy1 · February 2018

Iccotak wrote: »

JamuThatsWho wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Skyrim has a myriad of benefits over ESO. Waterbreathing and the ability to go under water is 1 of them, as well as the ability to fight dragons and take residual damage from certain enemy encounters. For example, if you get into an encounter with the wrong type of wildlife? You could contract a disease, which could limit your stamina regeneration and ahat not. There are actual consequences to consider when going about certain encounters and journeys. ESO could learn a thing or too about immersion from Skyrim in that regards.

It's an MMO.

Sure but there are certain aspects that would provide it more Immersion and could make it a better game.
Its an MMO but it is still part of Elder Scrolls and they should take that into account when making content and improvements.

It is also a different game set in TES world, which is why it isn't elder scrolls 6.

ArchMikem · February 2018

player.additem f (insert filthy rich number here)

No but I really don't understand what you're getting at here as it pertains to ESO.

Motherball · February 2018

I tried playing Skyrim again after months in ESO. Waste of time. The combat is so bad I cant even.

VaranisArano · February 2018

Motherball wrote: »

I tried playing Skyrim again after months in ESO. Waste of time. The combat is so bad I cant even.

Unless you really missed how overpowered stealth archery is in Skyrim. Stealth Archers are lackluster in ESO compared to being able to clear an entire multi-level draugr ruin/falmer tomb from stealth in Skyrim.