What is THIS?!?! ZoS I need answers!

Solohope · February 2018

So here I was just chilling in Grahtwood, looking for people to duel, when I see a low level pick a fight with an NPC and I saw something strange, something new. I then turned off my prevent attacking innocents and attacked the same npc once it reset to confirm what I had seen.

There is a npc in grahtwood with UNIQUE ABILITIES, THAT USES A SPELL IN ONE HAND AND A 1H SWORD IN THE OTHER. Is this the rumored battle mage class that was discussed in the forums before, or am I just being stupid.

Been playing for 2 years and first time seeing something like this.

Photographs:

1. He is holding a sword in one hand and a spell in the other

2. He is charging and releasing a spell.

3. He is shooting a spell out of his spell hand

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xeNNNNN · February 2018

Hm video would of been better.

But from what you describe, it sounds like the one hand and rune skill line we heard about a while ago. But thats still being worked on or something unless that was just a rumour

Gilliamtherogue · February 2018

This has been in the game since the partial Justice system was added. It's nothing new.

Solohope · February 2018

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Hm video would of been better.

But from what you describe, it sounds like the one hand and rune skill line we heard about a while ago. But thats still being worked on or something unless that was just a rumour

Shadow-play wouldn't record.

xeNNNNN · February 2018

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

This has been in the game since the partial Justice system was added. It's nothing new.

Ah then its just the typical special emote type animations the NPCs have lol

Solohope · February 2018

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

This has been in the game since the partial Justice system was added. It's nothing new.

Ah then its just the typical special emote type animations the NPCs have lol

Idk man, never seen it before.

xeNNNNN · February 2018

Solohope wrote: »

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

This has been in the game since the partial Justice system was added. It's nothing new.

Ah then its just the typical special emote type animations the NPCs have lol

Idk man, never seen it before.

Not improbable. For example, when I was doing cadwells gold for what seemed like the millionth time I happened upon and area in the 4th AD region and at the top of the map there was a quest line concerning the green lady you meet on the starter island and her sisters and their keeper.

At this point I had played the game for 2 years and had absolutely no clue that area existed and missed it 3 times before on other characters.

Same goes here, could simply be an animation you didn't notice till it caught your eye as you were doing other things.

Solohope · February 2018

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Solohope wrote: »

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

This has been in the game since the partial Justice system was added. It's nothing new.

Ah then its just the typical special emote type animations the NPCs have lol

Idk man, never seen it before.

Not improbable. For example, when I was doing cadwells gold for what seemed like the millionth time I happened upon and area in the 4th AD region and at the top of the map there was a quest line concerning the green lady you meet on the starter island and her sisters and their keeper.

At this point I had played the game for 2 years and had absolutely no clue that area existed and missed it 3 times before on other characters.

Same goes here, could simply be an animation you didn't notice till it caught your eye as you were doing other things.

That's true. But if npc's can do it then I want in.

Nemesis7884 · February 2018

the great thing about a 1h + spell line is that no new weapons required...

Bhaal5 · February 2018

Lag, really bad lag?

(I jest, i jest...lol)

xeNNNNN · February 2018

Solohope wrote: »

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Solohope wrote: »

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

This has been in the game since the partial Justice system was added. It's nothing new.

Ah then its just the typical special emote type animations the NPCs have lol

Idk man, never seen it before.

Not improbable. For example, when I was doing cadwells gold for what seemed like the millionth time I happened upon and area in the 4th AD region and at the top of the map there was a quest line concerning the green lady you meet on the starter island and her sisters and their keeper.

At this point I had played the game for 2 years and had absolutely no clue that area existed and missed it 3 times before on other characters.

Same goes here, could simply be an animation you didn't notice till it caught your eye as you were doing other things.

That's true. But if npc's can do it then I want in.

Heh I think we all do bud.

lillybit · February 2018

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

the great thing about a 1h + spell line is that no new weapons required...

But it still wouldn't really be a dual wield for magicka builds because the sword is still a stamina weapon. It would be more of a hybrid option.

yawbanana · February 2018

templar + 1 sword + vampires bane/reflective light ?

Ch4mpTW · February 2018

Solohope wrote: »

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Solohope wrote: »

xeNNNNN wrote: »

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

This has been in the game since the partial Justice system was added. It's nothing new.

Ah then its just the typical special emote type animations the NPCs have lol

Idk man, never seen it before.

Not improbable. For example, when I was doing cadwells gold for what seemed like the millionth time I happened upon and area in the 4th AD region and at the top of the map there was a quest line concerning the green lady you meet on the starter island and her sisters and their keeper.

At this point I had played the game for 2 years and had absolutely no clue that area existed and missed it 3 times before on other characters.

Same goes here, could simply be an animation you didn't notice till it caught your eye as you were doing other things.

That's true. But if npc's can do it then I want in.

Likewise. NPC’s have some pretty incredible skills. I personally want access to: The ice wall that some of them summon, the blast of fire they can shoot from their hands (looks like the Flames spell from Skyrim), and the “Riot Control” ability that guards can do.

LMar · February 2018

It's been there a while now yes. If you look even closer you will notice it is in fact a conjured weapon too

lillybit · February 2018

LMar wrote: »

It's been there a while now yes. If you look even closer you will notice it is in fact a conjured weapon too

Wow now I'm interested!

Iccotak · February 2018

I have been wanting a weapon skill line of 1handed weapons & 1h Magic

Beardimus · February 2018

It would be cool to have a 1H / Rune skill line etc for us loyal DW Mag players but I'm sure all those rumours stemmed from a marketing image for MW I think and nothing more.

And as exciting as it sounds it would remove the 5:5:2 setup option and mean other skills need slotting moving needed class skills etc

ssorgatem · February 2018

lillybit wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

the great thing about a 1h + spell line is that no new weapons required...

But it still wouldn't really be a dual wield for magicka builds because the sword is still a stamina weapon. It would be more of a hybrid option.

Not necessarily.

There's nothing inherent to 1H weapons that make them stamina weapons; it's the skills in their skill lines that do that.

Just like S&B and DW have completely different skill lines and abilities, despite sharing the same weapons, nothing prevents a new "Spell & Sword" skill line with magicka-based abilities.

Or even... spellcrafting?

Chilly-McFreeze · February 2018

ssorgatem wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

the great thing about a 1h + spell line is that no new weapons required...

But it still wouldn't really be a dual wield for magicka builds because the sword is still a stamina weapon. It would be more of a hybrid option.

Not necessarily.

There's nothing inherent to 1H weapons that make them stamina weapons; it's the skills in their skill lines that do that.

Just like S&B and DW have completely different skill lines and abilities, despite sharing the same weapons, nothing prevents a new "Spell & Sword" skill line with magicka-based abilities.

Or even... spellcrafting?

Do a heavy attack with only one 1h weapon slotted. Which resource does it return? Which damage stat does it increase?

Beardimus · February 2018

Why not both, Stam from the 1H magika from the rune.

As for damage, DW currently buffs both. So would work the same way. That said DW needs a damage buff right now

purpleshadez · February 2018

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

ssorgatem wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

the great thing about a 1h + spell line is that no new weapons required...

But it still wouldn't really be a dual wield for magicka builds because the sword is still a stamina weapon. It would be more of a hybrid option.

Not necessarily.

There's nothing inherent to 1H weapons that make them stamina weapons; it's the skills in their skill lines that do that.

Just like S&B and DW have completely different skill lines and abilities, despite sharing the same weapons, nothing prevents a new "Spell & Sword" skill line with magicka-based abilities.

Or even... spellcrafting?

Do a heavy attack with only one 1h weapon slotted. Which resource does it return? Which damage stat does it increase?

If they do add a 1h and spell skill line, then it might be reasonable to think there would be a passive that changes it to work with magicka rather than stamina. Much like the Ancient Knowledge passive allows you to use magicka to block with an ice staff.

Ladislao · February 2018

As they said earlier, it was a long time ago. Monsters and NPCs have more skills than the player (look at daedra, minotaurs, bosses). And this is normal.

Also you can find an NPC with spears in Skywatch (if my memory serves me).

Yolokin_Swagonborn · February 2018

The NPCs in this game all get to use fun hybrid builds but we aren't allowed to.

How many dungeons have those 2h, lightning AOE bosses. Both attacks hit hard. Yet we aren't allowed. CP and the removal of softcaps just screwed us, the NPCs are still having fun with hybrid builds.

Aisle9 · February 2018

Spellsword confirmed, you guys!

...inb4 they decide to release the skill line with all the spells channeled like the the other morph of frags, the one we don't talk about...

Chilly-McFreeze · February 2018

purpleshadez wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

ssorgatem wrote: »

lillybit wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

the great thing about a 1h + spell line is that no new weapons required...

But it still wouldn't really be a dual wield for magicka builds because the sword is still a stamina weapon. It would be more of a hybrid option.

Not necessarily.

There's nothing inherent to 1H weapons that make them stamina weapons; it's the skills in their skill lines that do that.

Just like S&B and DW have completely different skill lines and abilities, despite sharing the same weapons, nothing prevents a new "Spell & Sword" skill line with magicka-based abilities.

Or even... spellcrafting?

Do a heavy attack with only one 1h weapon slotted. Which resource does it return? Which damage stat does it increase?

If they do add a 1h and spell skill line, then it might be reasonable to think there would be a passive that changes it to work with magicka rather than stamina. Much like the Ancient Knowledge passive allows you to use magicka to block with an ice staff.

Interesting idea, I like it. Easy solution and good for us since we surely wouldn't want to spill even more stuff than necessary into the loot table. The grind already is insane.
But even more I'd like to see this whole stam/ mag dichotomy go away. But that's unlikely.
However, the person I quoted said that there is nothing that makes 1h inherently stamina based and that it is only the skill line that gives them the stam character. But as of right now, that is simply not true. Therefore my post.

NewBlacksmurf · February 2018

DefinTely wins the award for post of the week @ZOS_GinaBruno give a new badge ....post of the week award!

What if it were...something else
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Glockcoma725 · February 2018

Kinda like the flip move npc enemies use vauling over players, alot of neat skills they have

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO · February 2018

Solohope wrote: »

That's true. But if npc's can do it then I want in.

This is a person who GETS it. ^^^^

I'm STILL kind of bitter that some NPCs can throw kicks but I ain't got an Unarmed skill line (or something comparable) yet.

Y'all don't know how bad I NEED to kick a Daedra in the face. OKRRRRRR?

Wildberryjack · February 2018

A Battlemage that uses one handed conjured magicka "melee" weapons that use and do magicka damage and shoots spells from the other hand would be awesome! WANT!!!

RoseVex · February 2018

Found them in Grahtwood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFK11EOKM8