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Similar builds to "puncturing sweep" spam?

Earelith
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Hello everyone! I play eso and i love my templat puncturing sweep spam build!

I am fan of the very easy yet effective builds! I play with controller and i find it very comfortable to use the first three skills but not so much the L1 and R1 ones.

I am a solo player, i just want to breeze through quests, delves and public dungeons without struggle etc ( call me a lazy casual :) )

The templar build i use is: puncturing sweep, harness magicka and elemental blockade and heavy attacks with my staff!

Then on L1 and R1 i have the inner light and repentance, 2 skills i rarely use and are there for buffs.

I tried to make a stamina nightblade and felt too weak.... (maybe i am not playing it right..)

But anyway, to the point: I am wandering, is there similar builds for other classes? To regularly use just 3 skills and be able to breeze through content? And if yes can you please post some of them?

Thanks in advance!

Ps: i dont have cp yet. My templar is 20 level now. (I used to play to ps4, just switched to pc)
Edited by Earelith on January 24, 2018 2:44PM
  • KingYogi415
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    Mag blade is just as good for solo pve, if not better.
  • Earelith
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    Mag blade is just as good for solo pve, if not better.

    Which skills? For example for Templar, I have Elemental blockade for AoE, puncturing sweeps for spam (single and aoe) and Harness magicka for buff...

    lets say I do have a magblade... I can still use elemental blockade for aoe and harness magicka... what will be my spamm damage button? Shallow soul?
  • Earelith
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    Mag blade is just as good for solo pve, if not better.

    Which skills? For example for Templar, I have Elemental blockade for AoE, puncturing sweeps for spam (single and aoe) and Harness magicka for buff...

    lets say I do have a magblade... I can still use elemental blockade for aoe and harness magicka... what will be my spamm damage button? Shallow soul?
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Mag blade is just as good for solo pve, if not better.

    Mageblade is far and away the best PVE magic class at this point. That said it is also far and away the hardest to play. Not exactly what OP seems to be after.

    If you are looking for an easy rotation that gives good damage, pet sorc is what you are looking for. The restriction of three buttons is going to make any class suffer. If you really want to just have one buff, one shield and spam skill, you probably wont beat a templar. Pet sorc really requires the use of 4 skill buttons, and your spam skill is your heavy attack. The rotation is far and away the easiest in the game if you are comparing it to actual viable end game rotations capable of hitting 40k single target.
  • SmellyUnlimited
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    Earelith wrote: »
    Hello everyone! I play eso and i love my templat puncturing sweep spam build!

    I am fan of the very easy yet effective builds! I play with controller and i find it very comfortable to use the first three skills but not so much the L1 and R1 ones.

    I am a solo player, i just want to breeze through quests, delves and public dungeons without struggle etc ( call me a lazy casual :) )

    The templar build i use is: puncturing sweep, harness magicka and elemental blockade and heavy attacks with my staff!

    Then on L1 and R1 i have the inner light and repentance, 2 skills i rarely use and are there for buffs.

    I tried to make a stamina nightblade and felt too weak.... (maybe i am not playing it right..)

    But anyway, to the point: I am wandering, is there similar builds for other classes? To regularly use just 3 skills and be able to breeze through content? And if yes can you please post some of them?

    Thanks in advance!

    Ps: i dont have cp yet. My templar is 20 level now. (I used to play to ps4, just switched to pc)

    ELe Blockade is nice, but you shouldn’t really need harness Magicka if you’re just solo; your sweeps heal you. Or, toss in Ritual of Retribution; it heals you, and does decent AoE damage. Blazing spear is another goof AoE DOT. if you only want to use 3 buttons, go with sweeps / blockade / Toppling charge, and then backbar you can do blazing spear, Ritual of Retribution, and maybe Vampire bane.

    I play on console too, PS4, and the other buttons are perfectly comfortable; I think you just need to try it to get used to it. Inner Light is a good idea, I do the same. I usually throw a self heal (Vigor, green dragon blood) on my R1 as an “Oh ah!t!” save. As a Magplar, you have a strong option in being able to use 2 swords front bar, and then a destro back bar.
    So double swords - Sweeps, Ritual, Blazing. Ult - Crescent sweep (or solar prison for trials). Backbar - Blockade, force pulse, retribution (or dampen / breath of life / Vampire Bane). Ult - Destro ult
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  • Earelith
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    @SmellyUnlimited thanks for the advice! You are right that i do not really need harness magicka..

    Also i know dual wield will make my abilities hit harder, but i just find the range attack of staff and the magicka return from heavy attacks too comfortable to pass :)
  • gabriebe
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    Pet Sorc is by far the easiest build if you want to complete content like Vet Maelstrom Arena, and kind of learn the basics of a DPS rotation.

    Don't bring one into trials though lol.

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  • Asardes
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    The skill was rather fun, but they broke it with Morrowind patch, in multiple ways:
    1) They removed Major Mending from Templar so it heals for less than it used to so you have to spam them more
    2) It's expensive, so it got hit particularly hard by the CP changes (no more cost reduction, maximum recovery reduced)
    3) They also broke the scaling when they made it additive with CP, but at least they are trying to fix that the next patch

    I dropped it on my Templar and simply use heavy attacks instead. They do more damage against single target, comparable AoE damage, and coupled with Degeneration, they also heal, even if you are at range. Plus they give back magicka instead of consuming it. I came to the conclusion it's not worth slotting after trying to beat vMA on my Templar. With sweeps I had to always stay in melee range and took a lot more damage, and as a result I had to spam it, which left me without magicka even at 1.6K+ recovery. Most runs were 2h+ death fests. Once I switched to ranged I beat the arena in about an hour, with vitality left. I basically use the same build for overland content. No spammable, just DoTs and a couple of heavy attacks. I can sustain with ~750 recovery and I can even drop most world bosses solo without any difficulty.

    Skill setup:
    Front Bar: Radiant Glory | Purifying Light | Elemental Drain | Harness Magicka | Inner Light || Empowering Sweep
    Back Bar: Elemental Blockade | Blazing Spear | Ritual of Retribution | Vampire's Bane | Degeneration || Elemental Rage

    Rotation is like this: Apply elemental drain, Purifying Light, bar swap, back bar skills with light attacks in between, bar swap to front, refresh purifying light, do 2 heavy attacks, repeat, refresh elemental drain every 2nd rotation. If someone gets you elemental drain you can weave Force Pulse or Crushing Shock with the heavies for more damage. Didn't practice more, but can get that to about 32.5K DPS. Probably more experienced pople can squeeze 37K+. For overland mobs doesn't matter, since they melt before I hit Elemental Blockade :)
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  • SmellyUnlimited
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    @Earelith

    Well today’s PTS updates should make you happy; they increased the cone that puncturing sweeps can hit (a pretty decent amount too).
    So an amazing ability just got better. Also, using Grothdarr with it is amazing.

    One other option to go with for big damage - I didn’t see Radiant Oppression on your bar. One of the best executes, and it’s getting a buff next patch (granted it got a big nerf 3 or 4 patches ago, but it still hits very hard).
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  • SmellyUnlimited
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    gabriebe wrote: »
    Pet Sorc is by far the easiest build if you want to complete content like Vet Maelstrom Arena, and kind of learn the basics of a DPS rotation.

    Don't bring one into trials though lol.

    Thank you!! As someone who primarily tanks trials, I can’t tell you how many times a scamp has aggroed a boss. Pets are strong, no doubt, but any encumbrance on a team should be a trials no go. Sorc’s can very easily parse over 40k without pets. An additional benefit is the same reason you don’t run trials with cosmetic pets...just contributes to lag.

    I think most endgame guilds get this, hopefully. Whenever I run vMoL or vHoF with my guild, no Sorc has a pet out. The ones that do, in trials, are usually fairly new and/or don’t know how to modify their rotation. Or the fanatical unwillingness to take off Necropotence.
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  • SmellyUnlimited
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    Asardes wrote: »
    The skill was rather fun, but they broke it with Morrowind patch, in multiple ways:
    1) They removed Major Mending from Templar so it heals for less than it used to so you have to spam them more
    2) It's expensive, so it got hit particularly hard by the CP changes (no more cost reduction, maximum recovery reduced)
    3) They also broke the scaling when they made it additive with CP, but at least they are trying to fix that the next patch

    I dropped it on my Templar and simply use heavy attacks instead. They do more damage against single target, comparable AoE damage, and coupled with Degeneration, they also heal, even if you are at range. Plus they give back magicka instead of consuming it. I came to the conclusion it's not worth slotting after trying to beat vMA on my Templar. With sweeps I had to always stay in melee range and took a lot more damage, and as a result I had to spam it, which left me without magicka even at 1.6K+ recovery. Most runs were 2h+ death fests. Once I switched to ranged I beat the arena in about an hour, with vitality left. I basically use the same build for overland content. No spammable, just DoTs and a couple of heavy attacks. I can sustain with ~750 recovery and I can even drop most world bosses solo without any difficulty.

    Skill setup:
    Front Bar: Radiant Glory | Purifying Light | Elemental Drain | Harness Magicka | Inner Light || Empowering Sweep
    Back Bar: Elemental Blockade | Blazing Spear | Ritual of Retribution | Vampire's Bane | Degeneration || Elemental Rage

    Rotation is like this: Apply elemental drain, Purifying Light, bar swap, back bar skills with light attacks in between, bar swap to front, refresh purifying light, do 2 heavy attacks, repeat, refresh elemental drain every 2nd rotation. If someone gets you elemental drain you can weave Force Pulse or Crushing Shock with the heavies for more damage. Didn't practice more, but can get that to about 32.5K DPS. Probably more experienced pople can squeeze 37K+. For overland mobs doesn't matter, since they melt before I hit Elemental Blockade :)

    One thing I’d recommend is swapping out purifying light for power of the light. I realize it’s a stamina morph, but it’s one of the few abilities in the game that causes minor breach/minor fracture. That additional dmg outperforms the damage from purifying light; especially when all your teammates can take advantage of it
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  • idk
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    Mag blade is just as good for solo pve, if not better.

    Yes. But also the stam blade with siphoning attacks stam version or the stam Sorc ondenit gets to surge.

    My guess is OP likes the Templar for its healing while doing damage. Both of those classes have skills, well buffs, that provide healing. However, they are unlocked later in the skill lines.
    That is if OP really wants to try stam. Being used to magicka, OP might like to stay with mag.
    Edited by idk on January 25, 2018 8:38PM
  • Asardes
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    Asardes wrote: »
    The skill was rather fun, but they broke it with Morrowind patch, in multiple ways:
    1) They removed Major Mending from Templar so it heals for less than it used to so you have to spam them more
    2) It's expensive, so it got hit particularly hard by the CP changes (no more cost reduction, maximum recovery reduced)
    3) They also broke the scaling when they made it additive with CP, but at least they are trying to fix that the next patch

    I dropped it on my Templar and simply use heavy attacks instead. They do more damage against single target, comparable AoE damage, and coupled with Degeneration, they also heal, even if you are at range. Plus they give back magicka instead of consuming it. I came to the conclusion it's not worth slotting after trying to beat vMA on my Templar. With sweeps I had to always stay in melee range and took a lot more damage, and as a result I had to spam it, which left me without magicka even at 1.6K+ recovery. Most runs were 2h+ death fests. Once I switched to ranged I beat the arena in about an hour, with vitality left. I basically use the same build for overland content. No spammable, just DoTs and a couple of heavy attacks. I can sustain with ~750 recovery and I can even drop most world bosses solo without any difficulty.

    Skill setup:
    Front Bar: Radiant Glory | Purifying Light | Elemental Drain | Harness Magicka | Inner Light || Empowering Sweep
    Back Bar: Elemental Blockade | Blazing Spear | Ritual of Retribution | Vampire's Bane | Degeneration || Elemental Rage

    Rotation is like this: Apply elemental drain, Purifying Light, bar swap, back bar skills with light attacks in between, bar swap to front, refresh purifying light, do 2 heavy attacks, repeat, refresh elemental drain every 2nd rotation. If someone gets you elemental drain you can weave Force Pulse or Crushing Shock with the heavies for more damage. Didn't practice more, but can get that to about 32.5K DPS. Probably more experienced pople can squeeze 37K+. For overland mobs doesn't matter, since they melt before I hit Elemental Blockade :)

    One thing I’d recommend is swapping out purifying light for power of the light. I realize it’s a stamina morph, but it’s one of the few abilities in the game that causes minor breach/minor fracture. That additional dmg outperforms the damage from purifying light; especially when all your teammates can take advantage of it

    This setup is for solo DPS. Power of the Light scales with maximum stamina, so the damage done will be very low for a magicka templar, while Purifying Light scales with maximum magicka and thus the damage is much higher. This is why in group settings Power of the Light is applied by a stamina Templar. Also you mustn't use both on the same target since they override each other. For example in vAA the Stamina Templar, being melee, will apply PotL on the Mage and possibly the Atronachs, while a ranged Magicka Templar DD will apply PL to the Mage clones. In a trial setting the damage done by a ranged Mag Templar is slightly higher than a non-pet Magicka Sorcerer.
    Edited by Asardes on January 25, 2018 9:09PM
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  • Earelith
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    @SmellyUnlimited I have that in mind but I have not leveled the class skill so far to get it yet :P I will use it though :P Is that what people refer to as "Jesus Beam"?
  • SmellyUnlimited
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    That’s the one. Converting the damned, one button press at a time.
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