anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Stonden wrote: »

Where are the account wide achievements.

I like to play multiple toons, the one thing that gets me most is having to do all of my achievements over again, or having the progress of one not carry over to another character. Do you think it will ever be implemented?

Am i the only one that thinks this is a good quality of life change or not?

You don't *have* to do all achievements all over again. Achievements get you nothing apart from titles.
Else you get dyes (account wide), right to buy furniture (which you can transfer or use on whatever character), and skins (account wide).
There's strictly no point in doing all achievements on all characters - unless you suffer from OCD.

I get you, but I don't pvp and pve on the same character. My ultimate main is my magica nighblade where I do tend to at least try to get achievements, and it is the character I want my achievements on. I do mainly pve with the magica nightblade, but every now and then I go to pvp with the character. But my other main is my stamina nightblade and is used for Cyrodiil only. That char is what, the rank under Legate or something? I would rather not do all pvp achievements I've done, all over again on my magica. I don't need the rank titles from pvp on my magica nighblade, just have the achievements 'done' so I get the achievements away. Even if I do decide to take the magica nightblade to pvp one day, I rank up and get the titles. Nothing worse than that.

Gallowmere wrote: »

Just give us an option to make achievements account wide.

This way both sides will be happy.

No both sides will not be happy depending upon what you mean by achievements. If you want to be able to see all the achievements across all your characters that would be fine. This is what a few people are asking for.

Most though are wanting account wide achievements so they don't have to do skyshards and lore books on multiple characters. This idea is the one that also gets the most opposition.

MaxwellC wrote: »

This argument is between those who love wasting their time doing the same objectives again and those who prefer not to waste their time on earning something they had already earned once more.

Let that sink in a bit.

Your forgetting those who aren't afflicted with some weird perfectionist achievement syndrome brought about by the xbox360 and PS3 generation and that don't CARE about achievements and really dont want THIS of all things to become the core of the next QoL update because really there are about 500 things I can care about more that could be done first.

MaxwellC wrote: »

This argument is between those who love wasting their time doing the same objectives again and those who prefer not to waste their time on earning something they had already earned once more.

Let that sink in a bit.

Or, to look at it differently...

... between people who are interested in the RPG part of MMORPG, and those who want this to be a MOBA.

DoctorESO wrote: »

Guild Wars 2 also has account achievements.

Guild Wars 2 is one of the most alt-friendly games.

This one would love to see ESO be a more alt-friendly game.

MaxwellC wrote: »

This argument is between those who love wasting their time doing the same objectives again and those who prefer not to waste their time on earning something they had already earned once more.

Let that sink in a bit.

Or those who want the easy way out and those that know the easy way out is detrimental to the game.

one lady has been promoted to the rank of Lieutenant for her service to the Covenant in the Alliance War.

allowing some dude "fresh off the boat" to step in for the Pact and put those stripes on his sleeve doesn't seem proper.

i actually think the way this game rewards player experience vs character experience is one of the cleaner and more sensible of their systems. the only thing i can think to dispute right now is the unbankability of the randomly-dropped Runeboxes (and even that can be gotten around with a trusted friend via mail).

Stonden wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

I agree. There are some achievements that I just absolutely refuse to do again, such as the one that grants the “Executioner” title and polymorph. I really want that title on my Nightblades, but I’ve akready obtained it on my MagSorc. And I’m really not trying to go hunt down all those NPC’s scattered about Tamriel.

This is actually a perfect example of why titles should carry over to newly created toons. While i haven't taken the time to complete this, the amount of time to achieve this feat should be rewarded across your entire account not on just one character.

Same goes with any achievement in this game. I'm not saying remove the ability to track the achievements on new characters, just add a little piece in there indicating that this achievement was completed by your other character on whatever date, like world of Warcraft currently does.

So, just to clarify, the Praetorian title that I earned on my MagDK healer through about a year or so of PVP should be available to all my characters? Even the Stam Warden who's currently a Lieutenant, and the Level 4 Khajiit thief who's never even set foot in Cyrodiil because they can't until level 10?

Certain titles reflect character experience. PVPing with my MagDK healer is considerably different from PVPing with my Stam Warden DPS. There are certain achievements that are much easier to get with my DPS that I got in a month with her than took months on my healer. Titles especially, those Alliance ranks take time to earn, but I don't want those to carry over from character to character. I have a Praetorian's level of experience on my magDK healer, I do not have a Praetorian's level of experience on my stam warden.

This applies to things like arena and trial achievements and titles as well. I have 2 characters that I've completed Normal Maelstrom Arena on, so they have the title. I don't have the title on the characters I haven't run NMA on yet, and that's how it should be. Running Maelstrom is different on each character, so that title was a different experience on my stam sorc character than it was on my magsorc character. It'll be different again when I run my magDK through it.

Stonden wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

Stonden wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

I agree. There are some achievements that I just absolutely refuse to do again, such as the one that grants the “Executioner” title and polymorph. I really want that title on my Nightblades, but I’ve akready obtained it on my MagSorc. And I’m really not trying to go hunt down all those NPC’s scattered about Tamriel.

This is actually a perfect example of why titles should carry over to newly created toons. While i haven't taken the time to complete this, the amount of time to achieve this feat should be rewarded across your entire account not on just one character.

Same goes with any achievement in this game. I'm not saying remove the ability to track the achievements on new characters, just add a little piece in there indicating that this achievement was completed by your other character on whatever date, like world of Warcraft currently does.

So, just to clarify, the Praetorian title that I earned on my MagDK healer through about a year or so of PVP should be available to all my characters? Even the Stam Warden who's currently a Lieutenant, and the Level 4 Khajiit thief who's never even set foot in Cyrodiil because they can't until level 10?

Certain titles reflect character experience. PVPing with my MagDK healer is considerably different from PVPing with my Stam Warden DPS. There are certain achievements that are much easier to get with my DPS that I got in a month with her than took months on my healer. Titles especially, those Alliance ranks take time to earn, but I don't want those to carry over from character to character. I have a Praetorian's level of experience on my magDK healer, I do not have a Praetorian's level of experience on my stam warden.

This applies to things like arena and trial achievements and titles as well. I have 2 characters that I've completed Normal Maelstrom Arena on, so they have the title. I don't have the title on the characters I haven't run NMA on yet, and that's how it should be. Running Maelstrom is different on each character, so that title was a different experience on my stam sorc character than it was on my magsorc character. It'll be different again when I run my magDK through it.

See here is the hole in your argument, you are saying that the way a character plays is why you should not be able to carry over titles.

The titles you have earned show status and experience, which can in turn lead you to other opportunities on different characters.

If you want to show yourself as being a Lieutenant so bad on your new character you should already have that title unlocked, so wear it proudly!

As for the level 4, set it up so that you are unable to wear a title that is impossible to achieve, so for that example when you reach level 10 and can enter Cyrodiil, you are able to start using the titles that come with that level.

But I earned that status and experience of a Praetorian on my MagDK HEALER. I have that experience on that character.

I do not have that same Praetorian experience on my Stam Warden DPS. I only have the experience of getting to Lieutenant with her.

And I have ZERO experience in PVP with that level 4 khajiit. When she enters Cyrodiil and gets some AP for herself, the title she gets is Recruit.

The titles I have in PVP show my experience with that character. The titles I have for PVE like Maelstrom Arena Champion show the experience I have with that character.

Why should my Stam Warden DPS wear the Praetorian title I earned on my MagDK healer when I don't have a Praetorian's experience playing on a Stam Warden DPS? For context, that's a 15.9 million AP difference between those two characters.

Have you tried leveling up your Undaunted on alts? Those achievements for alt characters become a tool for leveling that skill faster. If that became account wide, then well, it will take twice as long just doing undaunted dailies with no achievement points added.

I disagree about this. If I complete Mages Guild quest line on one character, it should not automatically make my other characters Master Wizards. What if I had a Redguard, and true to the lore, avoid and detest magic?

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