It's already easy to level a new character from 1 to 50. And the game hasn't used the Tamriel Unlimited branding since Morrowind launched.

Alright.

Stop being lazy.

And the troll parade is in full force.

50 hours at release, 5 hours now. How much faster do you want it to be?

Uviryth wrote: »

FakeFox wrote: »

50 hours at release, 5 hours now. How much faster do you want it to be?

I never figured out how to do that if I´m honest. Every Video I watch always starts with "you need a second person". Seriously, who wants a partner while leveling. Thats just, wrong.

A partner? That get's you through something faster? In a MMO? How dare they!

What do you expect: max level after 5 minutes. It's already very easy to level a char

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

A partner? That get's you through something faster? In a MMO? How dare they!

I do most things in this game in groups (dungeons, Trials, PvP...), leveling and grinding is and has always been "me"-time. It just feels weird doing it with others.

To all the guys that said that you can hit level 50 in 5 hours: that's true, but it is misinformation. When you hit level 50 you are not at the end of the journey, you are just at the beginning.
In order to have a characther ready for endgame, you will need:

- Hit level 50 on the most important trees (class skills almost mandatory for every class / spec, then if you are a magicka spec, you will need destro staff at a bare minimum, Bow / Two handed if you are a stamina spec), which can take a good amoun of time. If you want to level also for PvP you will need to hit level 50 also on SnB and 2H on Stamina Specs, which can be quite tedious.

- SkillPoints: having leveled a bunch of alts i can safely say that in order to have the minimum amount of the skill points you will need to unlock all your racial passives, class passive, weapon passives, skills, morphs and so on , you will need to collect all the skyshards of 11-12 zones at least, and to complete most of the dungeons of the game

- If you are a Magicka spec you will need Mages Guild, which requires collecting all the lorebooks of 11-12 zones more or less, and then you will need to level up the mages guild skill you will use (Inner Light and Shooting Star / Ice Comet are almost mandatory)

- If you are a Stamina spec you will need to spend a discrete amount of time in PvP in order to unlock Vigor and Caltrops (and then you will need to level them up. Vigor is ultra fast, Caltrops will take some time).

- You will need to bring up Undaunted to level 9 in order to unlock Undaunted passives, which are very important. If you have very experienced group you can shorten this time by earning as much achievements as you can in all the dungeons of the game (speed runs, no death, and so on). Otherwise if you will limit yourself in doing pledges every day, this will take a massive amount of time (we are talking about weeks, not days).

- You will need to level up Alchemy in order to have the "Medicinal Use" passive, which is quite important both for PvE and PvP

At the end of this process your toon will be "ready to go", with everything you need.

Now you do the math and calculate the insane amount of time it takes to achieve this for a new character.

And the most important thing: collecting Skyshards and Lorebooks for every character is insanely tedious. It is not fun, it's just boring.

mandricus wrote: »

To all the guys that said that you can hit level 50 in 5 hours: that's true, but it is misinformation. When you hit level 50 you are not at the end of the journey, you are just at the beginning.
In order to have a characther ready for endgame, you will need:

- Hit level 50 on the most important trees (class skills almost mandatory for every class / spec, then if you are a magicka spec, you will need destro staff at a bare minimum, Bow / Two handed if you are a stamina spec), which can take a good amoun of time. If you want to level also for PvP you will need to hit level 50 also on SnB and 2H on Stamina Specs, which can be quite tedious.

- SkillPoints: having leveled a bunch of alts i can safely say that in order to have the minimum amount of the skill points you will need to unlock all your racial passives, class passive, weapon passives, skills, morphs and so on , you will need to collect all the skyshards of 11-12 zones at least, and to complete most of the dungeons of the game

- If you are a Magicka spec you will need Mages Guild, which requires collecting all the lorebooks of 11-12 zones more or less, and then you will need to level up the mages guild skill you will use (Inner Light and Shooting Star / Ice Comet are almost mandatory)

- If you are a Stamina spec you will need to spend a discrete amount of time in PvP in order to unlock Vigor and Caltrops (and then you will need to level them up. Vigor is ultra fast, Caltrops will take some time).

- You will need to bring up Undaunted to level 9 in order to unlock Undaunted passives, which are very important. If you have very experienced group you can shorten this time by earning as much achievements as you can in all the dungeons of the game (speed runs, no death, and so on). Otherwise if you will limit yourself in doing pledges every day, this will take a massive amount of time (we are talking about weeks, not days).

- You will need to level up Alchemy in order to have the "Medicinal Use" passive, which is quite important both for PvE and PvP

At the end of this process your toon will be "ready to go", with everything you need.

Now you do the math and calculate the insane amount of time it takes to achieve this for a new character.

And the most important thing: collecting Skyshards and Lorebooks for every character is insanely tedious. It is not fun, it's just boring.

I recently leveled a stamina warden, did it solo not a single grouping, it took me 9h from 1-50, 3h getting caltrops by only repairing walls as a pve peasent, fighter guilds took around 2h, the only thing remained is undaunted that i will start with on weekend i think with a total of 20h the char will be ready, magica takes even less to get them ready, is 20h is really that much? This is even cut down to 15h if i did skyreach in a group, 1h after work/college/school each day and here you have the character ready in less than a month.

As for skill points it takes 1h of skyshard collecting beside the skill points you have from leveling and dungeon/trials quests to have more than enough, i don't think this is insane amount of time

It's already lightning fast by any means. In a normal Maelstrom run, with XP scroll and training gear I was able to get between 4-6 levels during double XP events. Some people have leveled characters in Skyreach in as little as 4 hours. Even if you just quest you'll be at 50 in about 7-10 days. This is considerably faster than even single player TES games that came before.

mandricus wrote: »

Well, I just forgot to add Fighters Guild to the list (which is mandatory for every stamina spec).
3h for getting caltrops? Well if you are lucky and find a good zerg farming AP to follow it may be. If you are unlucky, expect to double this time, or even more.
1h of Skyshards? I don't know what game you play man. You need 10 zones at least, that is how has been for every alt I have (I have 6 at the moment), you do the math and count how much time do you need (I would say 15 hours at a bare minumum)

As i said i got caltrops by only repairing walls, no zerg and no grouping, as for skyshards i didn't say all of them, i only considered what will you need beside the dungeon and trials skill points to be ready, by ready i mean every skill that you will use and passives, no crafting(except medicinal use in alchemy), no useless skills/passives ...etc