The Definitive Definition of an Elite ESO Player

Zer0oo · January 2018

Elite player sounds more like an insult on the eso forums:

kicks low cp out of normal dungeons
kicks not max cp out of vet dungeons
still thinks mag sorc has the highest dps(i added this because i am still laughing if i think about the guy in zone chat who only wanted sorc dds because they have the highest dps)
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deepseamk20b14_ESO · January 2018

I’ve done most all of that but I don’t make even close to 50k a week since I spend 99% of my time in cyrodiil lol. You’re list is also very....PvE oriented. PvP is a much different monster if one was to define “elite” there especially since rank doesn’t really mean much there.

Cloudless · January 2018

Well, this all sure sounds mighty boring. It's a game, not a job.

lazerlaz · January 2018

More so than not if you're good at PVP then PVE comes easy on all levels.

More "elite" PVE players get rocked at PVP and continue to get rocked until the end of their days. They can't seem to handle anything outside of a mindless, routine, calculated mechanic that is PVE content.

The moment they come across a self thinking, unpredictable halfway decent pvp player they crumble like origami

Vahrokh · January 2018

Being "Elite" is not about completing a checklist nor about personal attitude.

I have had the luck of knowing a lot of real elite players both in WoW (I played in a guild competing with Nihilum) and in ESO.

The only traits that make someone elite:

- he / she is just "natural" at excelling at doing things. He / she does not have to "try hard", it just comes natural and he / she does it exceptionally well.
- he / she strives to achieve excellence, without anyone asking for that.

These two factors inevitably lead "elite" players to easily and quickly complete the hardest game challenges, to search and find each other (so they can compete against other good teams).

Often enough, the elite player tends to be very conscious of his capabilities and it's very easy to turn into a real ***. But it's not a 100% cause => effect. Many are really cool and helpful people, who are ready to help "normal" players.

DPShiro · January 2018

That list is very average at best, nothing on that is remotely impressive and near “elite” status.

Even seen people successfully PUGing vHoF recently

coop500 · January 2018

Sixty5 wrote: »

The true measure of eliteness in an ESO player is how many useless polls they make on the forums.

The more polls you make the more elite you are.

*Is the most elite then*

Mic1007 · January 2018

Thogard wrote: »

If you want to be elite, you have to compete against other players, not a clock.

Look at cyrodil, not trials, for elite players.

Trials = home run derby. Competitive, but you're not directly against anybody
PvP = baseball.

Why is it that I find Former Emperors dieing in red circles all the time then while doing my Pledges?The Home run derby too hard for a baseball player?

An elite player is one capable of performing well in all areas of the game. So, that means capable of competing well in PvE Leaderboards for Vet Trials and PvP Leaderboards in Cyrodiil. A player that cannot do both will never be Elite, no matter how much he or she wants to say otherwise.

lynog85 · January 2018

Nothing pve related can be considered a elite eso player. PVE in this game is very basic. Doing x amount of dps you maybe consider yourself a elite PVEr but thats about it.

lynog85 · January 2018

Beardimus wrote: »

PvP list is very weak.

Sergeant you can get with a matter of time, surely elite is rank 50, or having held Emperor

Id say all Battleground achievements - I.e. Won 50 matches, 2 is nothing!

And dueling, again that's a small number, duelist title is 100

But @Orticia has it spot on. Others may think you are elite as you are good. I you say you are, you are most probably being elitist, and those guys suck.

Being a emp or rank 50 doesnt make you elite. The majority of emps and 5stars are zergers and pretty garbage.

Danksta · January 2018

Solo dps test results shouldn't be on the list (well none of the stuff on the list should be on the list imo). 35k can be good depending on your setup, but a monkey playing a stamblade running tfs/wm/kraghs with lover and a bunch of points into piercing could hit 35k.

I don't consider myself elite but I've done the hardest thing on the list (completed vMOL and vHOF) while not having done some of the easier things on the list (I've never played battlegrounds and I haven't ever attempted vCOS).

Loc2262 · January 2018

Deep_01 wrote: »

You forgot housing, crafting, mount training, knowledge of lore etc.

Master Angler OP! Can't be Elite without that.

Loc2262 · January 2018

monktoasty wrote: »

Why pvp vs pve argument everytime

Get over it you enjoy what you enjoy no reason to argue about it constantly lol

Yeah I was wondering, as soon as I read that list, when the first PvE-v-PvP posts would pop up. Didn't take too long.

Stania · January 2018

"Elite" looks more like a self-given title for players who want to compensate the fact of having wasted too much time on a videogame.

Ch4mpTW · January 2018

Zer0oo wrote: »

Elite player sounds more like an insult on the eso forums:

kicks low cp out of normal dungeons
kicks not max cp out of vet dungeons
still thinks mag sorc has the highest dps(i added this because i am still laughing if i think about the guy in zone chat who only wanted sorc dds because they have the highest dps)
...

Agreed. And that’s truly not what being “elite” is about. It’s kinda like the real world label of being classified as a “prep”. People think that being a prep is about being: Stuck-up, snobby, smug, elitist, rude to those less fortunate, etc. When in fact, being a prep is about holding yourself to a higher standard than others. It’s about class and elegance. It’s about being generous and caring about others. It’s about being the best you can be, and not accepting anything else.

For some odd reason, a lot of people truly believe being “elite” is about a total scumbag on ESO. Why? I have no idea. They think it’s about hanging out with this and that guild, and constantly having your name posted upon a leaderboard. When in fact, most of the true elites I’ve come into contact with want truly nothing to do the so-called “top of the top”. And ironically enough, the “true elites” that I’ve met and played with? Perform dramatically better than those who I’ve done trials with that were apart of said “A-Teams”. It’s just that they aren’t interested in being known and having all of the e-fame, as they find that silly. They don’t care about “exposing” people in Cyrodiil or in duels, and really don’t care about DPS testing and times. Lol.

kylewwefan · January 2018

Looks good! So...do I want to be elite or not be elite?

Tan9oSuccka · January 2018

I’m an elite Nord dancer.

No one does it better.

Asardes · January 2018

I check all the boxes except vHoF and duels. But I wouldn't consider myself "elite". Not by a long shot. I never tried dueling, but did actually try vHoF once on PTS before Morrowind launch, failed at the 2nd boss and never went back. There are simply too many in game activities that I've prioritized before progressing those trials, such as catching up on skills and playing proficiency on my other 4 main characters. I played mostly tank for my first 2 years in game, but I want to learn to play well all roles, over multiple classes.

Mic1007 · January 2018

Stania wrote: »

"Elite" looks more like a self-given title for players who want to compensate the fact of having wasted too much time on a videogame.

Not necessarily; I’ve seen people who only play on weekends get really good at the game.

In the other extreme, there are probably others who grinded from level 1 all the way to CP690 in Skyreach, and have no idea how to do anything other than spam Steel Tornado.

BlazingDynamo · January 2018

lazerlaz wrote: »

There is nothing elite about PVE and its so cringe to read.

PVE is a chore. Nothing else. After my chores are done I like to go play with the big boys and PVP..

Play with the big boys

yup sounds like pvp

Kuramas9tails · January 2018

ATTITUDE

Balamoor · January 2018

I'm a big fan of the game itself but.... there is nothing elite about it...just the single most toxic community (mostly due to LFG and terrible community management ) than any other MMo. The only way to play this game is with your guild and the /mute on a hotkey.

It could have been different, but like Tom Cadwell of Riot games once said. "Once you let the toxic Zombies in your town it's impossible to get them out again"

jbjondeaueb17_ESO · January 2018

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

jbjondeaueb17_ESO wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

If you want to be elite, you have to compete against other players, not a clock.

Look at cyrodil, not trials, for elite players.

Trials = home run derby. Competitive, but you're not directly against anybody
PvP = baseball.

With your definition Rally drivers aren't Elite drivers because they run again the chrono of others drivers, same for a lot of sports. Very limited way of thinking competition.

Rally, every single single person Olympic game, plus several team ones too. Anything where the score is measured in time.

Didn't you see it was an example, on top of that i said it (refer to bold phrase).

Ratzkifal · January 2018

Add this as alternative for 35k dps for tanks:
- at least 30k resistances and 30k health
- complete all vet dungeons without dying to a fight (you, not necessarily the group)

DieAlteHexe · January 2018

Loc2262 wrote: »

monktoasty wrote: »

Why pvp vs pve argument everytime

Get over it you enjoy what you enjoy no reason to argue about it constantly lol

Yeah I was wondering, as soon as I read that list, when the first PvE-v-PvP posts would pop up. Didn't take too long.

Never does. It's traditional and stereotypical now. I think 20 years of knee-jerking on both sides of the issue is a pretty good indicator of the (unneeded) divide fostered by both sides.

Over...games.

duendology · January 2018

lazerlaz wrote: »

There is nothing elite about PVE and its so cringe to read.

PVE is a chore. Nothing else. After my chores are done I like to go play with the big boys and PVP..

Oh you, the big boy, you...
lol

Maura_Neysa wrote: »

PvP has a built in ego check. Sooner or later someone is going to wreck You, no matter how good you are.

Yes...
The simple truth.. there's always someone who's better than you. So I always smile when I hear or read someone titling herself/himself an expert or best of the best of the best...

Generally though, kudos to people who enter a vet hd dungeon and just walk it as a field of roses. Maybe I'll be able to do that one day. At the moment it's surreal to me to hear how this or that vet dungeon is nothing difficult and people do it before their morning coffee or something. lol

It would be great if there was a teaching guild where experienced players would take newbies (like myself, decent but not perfect gear and knows game well enough not to spam final boss with light attacks) to a vet or even normal (but harder) dungeons to show the mechanics..with the full awareness the raid may not be finished. But I guess, you need to have a patience and teacher's personality for that. You can watch as many videos as you like, but watching an experienced player running a dungeon (like for x-th time) as if it was a daily jogging, and doing it yourself are two totally different things.

Biro123 · January 2018

Is this like one of those birthday cards that you open up to find a mirror inside?

coop500 · January 2018

Loc2262 wrote: »

monktoasty wrote: »

Why pvp vs pve argument everytime

Get over it you enjoy what you enjoy no reason to argue about it constantly lol

Yeah I was wondering, as soon as I read that list, when the first PvE-v-PvP posts would pop up. Didn't take too long.

And this is usually the PVPers that start it

Armatesz · January 2018

DoctorESO wrote: »

What does it take to be considered an "elite" ESO player? Not to be the top of the elite, but just the bottom of the elite? Barely elite, if you will? Well, after compiling information from several discussions, it seems this is the criteria:
Capable of single-target fully self-buffed DPS of 35k

Completed all veteran dungeons

Completed all no-death speed-run hard-mode veteran dungeon achievements for at least two DLC dungeons (Cradle of Shadows, Ruins of Mazzatun, Bloodroot Forge, and Falkreath Hold)

Capable of earning at least 50k in one week week from guild trader sales

Completed all veteran trials, including Maw of Lorkhaj and Halls of Fabrication

Completed the veteran Craglorn trials (Aetherian Archive, Hel Ra Citadel, and Sanctum Ophidia) on hard mode

Completed veteran Dragonstar Arena

Completed veteran Maelstrom Arena

Has purple or gold best-in-slot armor in divines trait

Has gold front and backbar weapons in sharpened, infused, or nirnhoned trait

Has a microphone for voice chat capability

Has at least rudimentary knowledge/experience of how to tank and heal dungeons

Achieved at least Sergeant rank in Cyrodiil

Has some understanding of Alliance War strategies and terminology

Has won at least five duels of like-leveled and like-equipped players

Has won at least two battlegrounds matches

Do you have any to add? Or should anything be removed from the list?

Guild traders is not required to be an elite player. 50k is a minor amount. As for weapons for sharpened, infused or nirnhoned it might also be decisive but depends on circumstances. Also the all divines thing does not always work. It depends on what they are running with. I would also add besides just completing on veteran that they have an overall understanding of said dungeons and understand the workings of about 80% of the dungeon.

Armatesz · January 2018

lazerlaz wrote: »

There is nothing elite about PVE and its so cringe to read.

PVE is a chore. Nothing else. After my chores are done I like to go play with the big boys and PVP..

Same can be said that pvp is a chore as well. But the understandings of which pvp is another thing as well. Battlegrounds and cyrodiil and imperial city as well as duels can be handled differently. Try looking at how the land is formed, what is in their way and how it can be utilized against them.