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Edited by DoctorESO on September 22, 2018 11:45PM moved 29 votes
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zaria✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nohealing is not about HPS outside a few settings, buff uptime is more important. Buff upptime then you also has to heal and avoid incoming,Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.2 -
notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoThe important part of buffing is easily practiced with a friend. Make your friend a dummy (they probably are anyways
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exeeter702✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭healing is not about HPS outside a few settings, buff uptime is more important. Buff upptime then you also has to heal and avoid incoming,
True, but maybe having an actual built in tool to measure it will finally demonstrate to the hordes of willingly (and unwillingly) uneducated players that HPS across all 5 classes is actually very much on par.0 -
Belyar✭✭✭NoHealing is probably the easiest thing in the entire game, you can do decent even without bis gear so I think it would be pointless.0
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✭✭✭✭✭exeeter702 wrote: »healing is not about HPS outside a few settings, buff uptime is more important. Buff upptime then you also has to heal and avoid incoming,
True, but maybe having an actual built in tool to measure it will finally demonstrate to the hordes of willingly (and unwillingly) uneducated players that HPS across all 5 classes is actually very much on par.
But I'm never judging a healer on their HPS. I'm judging them on whether or not they can keep my tank alive, while boosting the DPS, providing some form of resource return and addressing anyone who's health needs attention. If they are using Spell Power Cure, I'd expect them to be keeping targets at 100% as much as possible - the heals per second needed to do so don't matter compared to the buff uptime.
Just like you judge a tank by their ability to stay alive, provide crowd control and group buffs, and keep taunt up while properly executing tactics, I judge a healer on their ability to keep the group alive and keep the group buffs ticking. I don't care whether you do that with high heals per second or you keep the group up while doing 50% of the group DPS in the dungeon. If you can fulfill your role, go for it.
Which is to say that I'm not sure that a dummy that shows HPS is going to convince a trials team to take on a DK, Sorc, or nightblade healer unless that player on those classes is willing to prove that they can handle the content with healing and providing the group buffs and resource return.0 -
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✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »exeeter702 wrote: »healing is not about HPS outside a few settings, buff uptime is more important. Buff upptime then you also has to heal and avoid incoming,
True, but maybe having an actual built in tool to measure it will finally demonstrate to the hordes of willingly (and unwillingly) uneducated players that HPS across all 5 classes is actually very much on par.
But I'm never judging a healer on their HPS. I'm judging them on whether or not they can keep my tank alive, while boosting the DPS, providing some form of resource return and addressing anyone who's health needs attention. If they are using Spell Power Cure, I'd expect them to be keeping targets at 100% as much as possible - the heals per second needed to do so don't matter compared to the buff uptime.
Just like you judge a tank by their ability to stay alive, provide crowd control and group buffs, and keep taunt up while properly executing tactics, I judge a healer on their ability to keep the group alive and keep the group buffs ticking. I don't care whether you do that with high heals per second or you keep the group up while doing 50% of the group DPS in the dungeon. If you can fulfill your role, go for it.
Which is to say that I'm not sure that a dummy that shows HPS is going to convince a trials team to take on a DK, Sorc, or nightblade healer unless that player on those classes is willing to prove that they can handle the content with healing and providing the group buffs and resource return.
Oh of course, i agree completely....
"But I'm never judging a healer on their HPS. I'm judging them on whether or not they can keep my tank alive, while boosting the DPS, providing some form of resource return and addressing anyone who's health needs attention"
Every class can do this with equal measure is my point. Hps is hardly what justifies a class in the role of healing. My comment was in line with the hopes that a visible in game tool that demonstrates a practical healing uptime would silence a LARGE subset of individuals that believe templars, despite anything else, produce the highest value of raw healing in the game.
The issue is that of players, regardless if they are or arent able to heal vet trials as non templars or not (spoiler, non templar healers can heal vet trials), the majority of the player base do not allow any opportunity for said chance to "proove" it.
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✭✭✭✭✭NoMore important would be a tanking dummy, because you really can't be bothered to just go and see to find out if (s)he's tough enough. A tanking dummy could then double-up as a healing dummy since the tank could use that healing.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.0
