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Would you like a new EU2/NA2 [hard]

Getern
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Not everyone is happy with current state of the game, I mean mostly competetive players. A lot of my friends left after some dumb changes or growing lag issues. Zenimax doesn't care about us, but here is how easly they can redeem. I am talking about the vision of the new EU2/NA2 megaservers but this time with more difficult content and better balance. I am specifically talking about "oldschool", not neccesarly first iterations of the game, but state from 1.5 - 2.2. Obviously, with certain adjustments. In compare to what we have now, those times were the closest to perfect balance. The server with performence kept fresh for long, without adding needless calculations. No proc sets, no posions, no lag, no bots, less zergs. Just give us the classic MMO experience we used to once had. Megaserver for players who value skill-based gameplay more than decorating their homes.

It can be separate game, I don't mind paying for it again and I am sure other wouldn't mind too. There is a lot of players, who would love to make a comeback. There is high chance for more MMO veterans to try it out too.
Edited by Getern on January 13, 2018 10:47AM

Would you like a new EU2/NA2 [hard] 112 votes

Yes, please!
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itsfatbassAllPlayAndNoWorkBlazedontEdziulelink88ApheriusApplebladeThalmor-NordmasterRupzSkoomaVrenkGeternklowdy1 12 votes
No, because reasons.
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  • Radinyn
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    No, because reasons.
    No, one big server for each region is the strenght of eso.
  • Getern
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    Yes, please!
    Radinyn wrote: »
    No, one big server for each region is the strenght of eso.

    I rather prefer to isolate my mental health from casual infuence.

    We already have full casual server, don't be selfish.
  • ToRelax
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    I'm pretty sure next update will be the best balance we've ever had in this game PvP wise. Only thing that I'm worried about are the new proc sets...
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  • Getern
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    Yes, please!
    ToRelax wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure next update will be the best balance we've ever had in this game PvP wise. Only thing that I'm worried about are the new proc sets...

    Isn't it stupid? When they finally dealt with most, they brining new ones. Logic af
  • Milvan
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    No, because reasons.
    Tho Latin America needs some love. Not really one LA megaserver but maybe better tunneling or regional instances for trials and PVP.
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  • DieAlteHexe
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    No, because reasons.
    Getern wrote: »
    Radinyn wrote: »
    No, one big server for each region is the strenght of eso.

    I rather prefer to isolate my mental health from casual infuence.

    We already have full casual server, don't be selfish.

    BOO!

    -signed a scary, mental health threatening casual

    :D

    Dirty, filthy casual aka Nancy, the Wallet Warrior Carebear Potato Whale Snowflake
  • ArchMikem
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    No, because reasons.
    Getern wrote: »
    Radinyn wrote: »
    No, one big server for each region is the strenght of eso.

    I rather prefer to isolate my mental health from casual infuence.

    We already have full casual server, don't be selfish.

    Hey buddy how about we go into one of those fancy vet dungeons and light attack our way through like a baws, bragging about our 5k dps, then head onto the forum to complain about PvP, Maelstrom, and Trials being too hard and unfair. ;)

    Sincerely yours,
    A Casual
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  • Motherball
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    No, because reasons.
    I’d rather resources be devoted to other things. Not trying to be offensive but it sounds like a different game, maybe try a different game.
  • klowdy1
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    Yes, please!
    I don't need everything you mentioned, but having an open world with harder enemies; more health, more dodges, harder hitting. Undoubtedly, someone will come in with the vet dungeon argument, but I seem to have the most fun out in the world, working through all of the zones, doing all of the story arcs. If there was a way to have two servers, one normal and one more difficult, I would love it, and would only affect the appearance of population. Keep everything linked, like dungeons anf PvP. I will still continue doing mostly open world content regardless, but I would appreciate it, as would many others.
  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    I'd be fine with vet-mode overland content as seperate instance on the existing servers. But if I must vote, I'd take YES.
  • AzraelKrieg
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    No, because reasons.
    Motherball wrote: »
    I’d rather resources be devoted to other things. Not trying to be offensive but it sounds like a different game, maybe try a different game.

    This. Not just the devoting of resources elsewhere but the other comment about trying a different game
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  • Ydrisselle
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    Getern wrote: »
    Radinyn wrote: »
    No, one big server for each region is the strenght of eso.

    I rather prefer to isolate my mental health from casual infuence.

    We already have full casual server, don't be selfish.

    I rather prefer to isolate my mental health from uberpro influence. Wait, I can already do that :tongue:
  • Danikat
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    No, because reasons.
    Getern wrote: »
    I am specifically talking about "oldschool", not neccesarly first iterations of the game, but state from 1.5 - 2.2. Obviously, with certain adjustments.

    I'm curious - what adjustments do you consider 'obvious' to the 1.5-2.2 version of the game to make it fit your requirements? And how can you be confident that other people, even those who want a harder version of the overland, will want the same iteration of the game with the same adjustments?

    That's actually the biggest problem I see with this idea. You're asking ZOS to make a separate version of the game tailored to your personal ideals, but for it to work a lot of other people will need to agree that it's their ideal version of the game, or at least considerably better than the current version. (Although being alone on the server would help make everything harder.)

    This is a common problem in games that allow (or fail to prevent) private servers - everyone has their own idea of what was the best update and what tweaks need to be made to make it even better so everyone who can creates their own server with their personal favourite version and then players end up split across all of them and most struggle to maintain enough of a population to be functional (or end up nerfing things so everything can be done solo to allow for the very low population). And for most people it's only a slight improvement because it's not their ideal version of the game, it's the server owners.
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  • ParaNostram
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    No, because reasons.
    ZOS can hardly keep the servers they have up functioning at a satisfactory level.
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  • EvilCroc
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    No, because reasons.
    No. It will feed elitism in community.
  • Dawnblade
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    I'd like a billion dollars, but it isn't going to happen just like a separate 'hard mode' version of the game isn't going to happen.
  • pauli133
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    No, because reasons.
    You know what ZOS needs? More things to balance. That'll definitely make for a better game.
  • dennissomb16_ESO
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    No, because reasons.
    I said no simply because I don't want them using development resources for a small group of players.
  • Sevalaricgirl
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    I see, so you want them to create a new server for you "hard core" players and do new content just for you and balance the game just for you and leave everyone else with the crap balance and abandon the content for everyone because they don't have time, people or money to make you "hard core" types your own game.
  • Tandor
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    No, because reasons.
    It wouldn't be of any interest to me, and while it might appear superficially to meet the complaints of some players the chances are that (a) it wouldn't - things like lag, bots, zergs etc would be just the same - and (b) even if it did those players would find something else to complain about. It would in any event be a major investment of developer resources that was massively disproportionate to the number of players calling for it.
  • Getern
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    Yes, please!
    You all missunderstood the pool, It is not any sort of action against casual. I mean, saying NO, doesn't actually have sense at least from my perspective. It means, that u are not just idle about it, you are strickly against it, which is selfish.

    Yes, I am aware that new server would come up and you still have to struggle on the old one, but u already do. Zenimax is not doing anything anyway. You don't have to play on the new server, just stay where u are, I insist.
    Tandor wrote: »
    It wouldn't be of any interest to me, and while it might appear superficially to meet the complaints of some players the chances are that (a) it wouldn't - things like lag, bots, zergs etc would be just the same - and (b) even if it did those players would find something else to complain about. It would in any event be a major investment of developer resources that was massively disproportionate to the number of players calling for it.

    Not even close

    Zerging 2 years ago wasn't that big of a thing and futhermore most classes had opportunity to escape. Thats the matter which doesn't apply anymore. I am mean u still have can but its way more difficult. I know I am demanding harder content but not in PVP, it makes sense to give all classes relatively equal opportunities like they once had.

    Lag, did u play 2 years ago? Performance was so much better without overload of needless calculation.
  • Getern
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    Yes, please!
    Danikat wrote: »
    Getern wrote: »
    I am specifically talking about "oldschool", not neccesarly first iterations of the game, but state from 1.5 - 2.2. Obviously, with certain adjustments.

    I'm curious - what adjustments do you consider 'obvious' to the 1.5-2.2 version of the game to make it fit your requirements? And how can you be confident that other people, even those who want a harder version of the overland, will want the same iteration of the game with the same adjustments?

    That's actually the biggest problem I see with this idea. You're asking ZOS to make a separate version of the game tailored to your personal ideals, but for it to work a lot of other people will need to agree that it's their ideal version of the game, or at least considerably better than the current version. (Although being alone on the server would help make everything harder.)

    This is a common problem in games that allow (or fail to prevent) private servers - everyone has their own idea of what was the best update and what tweaks need to be made to make it even better so everyone who can creates their own server with their personal favourite version and then players end up split across all of them and most struggle to maintain enough of a population to be functional (or end up nerfing things so everything can be done solo to allow for the very low population). And for most people it's only a slight improvement because it's not their ideal version of the game, it's the server owners.

    You are saying that it was just my personal imagination. What I can tell you for sure that there is thousands of players who would literally love to join new project. Whenever I speak with someone competetive they do also prefer times like 1.5, 1.6 was a bit harsh, but can work pretty good with few fixes. 2.1 - 2.2 are pretty much about the same. Probably the best time with providing relative equality for classes in PVP. Content in IC was just right difficulty wise. Overland and trials needed some love tho.

    Its actually the fact, that old days were better. Also keep in mind I am not saying anything about removing ur precious content. All DLCs can stay, with adjustments ofc.

    The biggest problem here is the fact, that most competetive players do no longer play or do not lurk into forum. I am just dealing with full casual community representative with 5% of actually decent players. That is sad.
  • xeNNNNN
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    You should of added a yes/no option, something for those of us in the middle.

    I cba with elitist crap but I will say the overland content is a pile of crap and way too easy. I miss the times when doshia was wiping a majority of the players that was fun because it wasnt easy af.

    With these changes we can then look at the main story and actually make old stonefire a challenge finally. Bal hasnt been a challenge since beta.


    Only thing I dont want back too their full strength is mudcrabs. No...Just no. Pls.
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  • crjs1
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    No, because reasons.
    Definitely not, as others have said I would rather devs focused time and money on new content and balancing not a whole new server to please a vocal minority of players.
  • Rex-Umbra
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    No, because reasons.
    F that just keep making game better and add more solo difficulty.
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  • Acrolas
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    No, because reasons.
    Getern wrote: »
    You all missunderstood the pool, It is not any sort of action against casual. I mean, saying NO, doesn't actually have sense at least from my perspective. It means, that u are not just idle about it, you are strickly against it, which is selfish.

    Shaming people for having an opinion while throwing out a common sense fallacy?

    Maybe you just like making everything difficult for yourself.
    signing off
  • Charliff1966
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    No, because reasons.
    Nope. There is no need to split recources.
  • Getern
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    Yes, please!
    Is there at least one competetive player among you? I belive not.

    Shame the community ruined the game once and refuses to bring it to the better state.
  • DeadlyRecluse
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    No, because reasons.
    Division of population is not the answer.
    Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub
  • ak_pvp
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    "Better balance."

    Do you really think that is how it will happen, they are trying to balance it now, and would never pump money into something that doesn't ft their new DLCs.

    Its not hurr durr casual, its just an awful idea.

    Difficult overland I would be open for.
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