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Thelon vs The World (MagSorc 1vX)

  • King_Thelon
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    Jsmalls wrote: »
    Not your fault though, solo PvP in this game is dead.

    Stars are only visible in darkness.
  • Minalan
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    Jsmalls wrote: »
    Don't think I've seen engine guardian used since 1989, AND this build has no damage. 2500 spell damage with 40k magicka? Your frags would be lucky to hit 7k on a crit against someone in light armor.
    Potatoes were harmed in the making of this film, please boycott.
    Not your fault though, solo PvP in this game is dead. Tank and Zerg meta don't bode well for solo play. That and ANY decent play can indefinitely survive a 1v1.

    P.S. I watched the build video behind this and died a little inside when you said meteor was in your regular rotation.
    Meteor is fantastic when you got a undodgable cc in your pocket.

    I think he died a little inside because Sorc is the only class that has to use an ult just to kill anything.

    (PS: This was what we call sarcasm. Satire.)
  • joe.smith21b14_ESO
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    Minalan wrote: »
    Jsmalls wrote: »
    Don't think I've seen engine guardian used since 1989, AND this build has no damage. 2500 spell damage with 40k magicka? Your frags would be lucky to hit 7k on a crit against someone in light armor.
    Potatoes were harmed in the making of this film, please boycott.
    Not your fault though, solo PvP in this game is dead. Tank and Zerg meta don't bode well for solo play. That and ANY decent play can indefinitely survive a 1v1.

    P.S. I watched the build video behind this and died a little inside when you said meteor was in your regular rotation.
    Meteor is fantastic when you got a undodgable cc in your pocket.

    I think he died a little inside because Sorc is the only class that has to use an ult just to kill anything.

    (PS: This was what we call sarcasm. Satire.)

    My bad.
    Smiff
  • King_Thelon
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    Countless younglings perish while meteor is on cool-down. Watching greatness in action causes many to die on the inside as they come face to face with their own glaring inadequacies.
  • Adenoma
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    @King_Thelon , you're a masterpiece. I love you. You're like an elegant work of performance art. Keep on keeping on.
    Adenoma-Badenoma-Sadenoma
  • King_Thelon
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    @Adenoma
    Will do friend more to come!
  • King_Thelon
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    Jsmalls wrote: »
    this build has no damage. 2500 spell damage with 40k magicka? Your frags would be lucky to hit 7k on a crit against someone in light armor.

    @Jsmalls

    If you believe MagSorcs need stats to get kills, you have witnessed few of the greats and have read sparingly from their tomes. Those who have been to the mountaintop rely on precision, timing, targeting, prioritization and finesse to deliver their foes to Valhalla.

    In time and with practice, all will be revealed to those that seek the pearls of great price. For know, hear thou this: trust in THE KING will all that you are, rely naught in your own understanding.
  • Minalan
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    Jsmalls wrote: »
    this build has no damage. 2500 spell damage with 40k magicka? Your frags would be lucky to hit 7k on a crit against someone in light armor.

    @Jsmalls

    If you believe MagSorcs need stats to get kills, you have witnessed few of the greats and have read sparingly from their tomes. Those who have been to the mountaintop rely on precision, timing, targeting, prioritization and finesse to deliver their foes to Valhalla.

    In time and with practice, all will be revealed to those that seek the pearls of great price. For know, hear thou this: trust in THE KING will all that you are, rely naught in your own understanding.

    Yes. Timing. And a lucky string of frag procs doesn’t hurt.

    It also helps if the other player isn’t a block build or wearing a heavy armor impen set. In which case no amount of reading the tomes of the ancients will help. The sorcerers of old could streak for days, shield for 20 seconds, knock enemies over with their crystal frags, and streak through block. Then came Wrobel. And then the dark days.
  • King_Thelon
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    Minalan wrote: »
    It also helps if the other player isn’t a block build or wearing a heavy armor impen set. In which case no amount of reading the tomes of the ancients will help.

    These builds you speak of also perish beneath the yoke of THE KING. Indeed such builds are sent to Valhalla in the clip presented here so graciously by the true born KING THELON, including the highborn apostate. For THE KING OF THE DOMINION has brought his rune cage alongside his mighty staff that block builds may feel the force of a thousand meteors upon them.
  • Jsmalls
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    @King_Thelon , no disrespect, you do your thing.

    I'm just saying as a Mag Sorc that has competed at high levels, a Sorcs bread and butter comes from burst. We don't have sustained dps in PvP, and our damage depends on a curse that takes 3 seconds to hit, and a slow moving projectile that is VERY easily dodged or blocked that only procs "35%" of the time (that's been nerfed in two consecutive updates).

    Light/heavy staff attacks were nerfed into the ground (5k damage for a heavy staff attack is laughable compared to the old days) which we used to setup our burst as well.

    So to see a build using 2500 spell damage with 40k magicka and no additional spell penetration, I don't see you conquering any decent player with that. And you'd certainly never get through my 28k in wards with that (hardened and harness). So if you're killing players with your curses and frag hitting for 13k collectively, then it's against players that A. Don't know how to manage their stamina or B. Don't know how to heal. And we call those players potatoes.

    Granted I haven't steadily played for about half a year, but...
    My Sorc sits at 50k magicka front bar, with the extra 3xxx penetration from Spinner, and 2800 spell damage without extraneous buffs, and even I have no chance of putting down some of these meta builds on decent players with that (I'm not saying that's even a high damage build, thats my niche for a balanced defense and offense and it's still "1300 spell damage higher")

    Just think you should overlook your build for improvements. Maybe you are a great player, I wouldn't know never came across you, but if you are, you're limiting yourself with that setup, your stats could be so much better (and I get that stats aren't everything, stat sheet warriors are laughable, but no one can say that don't help).

    P.S. @Minalan , yes that is horrific, clearly not using an ultimate for each kill is my current problem in this meta. Thanks Zos for nerfing my scaling dark conversation, streak, my wards, my staff attacks, my frags (damage wise and CC wise), and making it a meta to have 30k resistance, and holding block indefinitely. A meta that completely goes against everything a Sorc is (resistance and block do not apply to shields so offers us no benefit).
  • King_Thelon
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    @Jsmalls

    This build is made to fight outnumbered. To do this we prioritize resource management over damage oriented stats. The skill setup gives us access to the wombo-combo of curse - meteor - rune cage - Frags - Mage's wrath - crushing shock, which will dispatch most players despite our prioritization of regen stats. The combo will work without meteor against potatoes as well, as demonstrated thoroughly on my channel. Hope this clears things up.
  • kyle.wilson
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    TheValar85 wrote: »
    lol so staged :D

    I'm curious why a GO in that video played like a brand new pug.
  • King_Thelon
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    TheValar85 wrote: »
    lol so staged :D

    I'm curious why a GO in that video played like a brand new pug.

    Those who grow up in the blob cannot stand the wrath of the true born KING THELON. Alliance Ranks offer no shelter from THE KING OF THE DOMINION, Taker of Swords and Stealer of Scrolls. All shall be brought low before HIM, from the humblest of citizens to the grandest of overlords.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Truly a master magician . Hokus cadabra . Abra kapokus .
  • King_Thelon
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    Truly a master magician . Hokus cadabra . Abra kapokus .

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  • Jjitsuboy98
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    This looks more like Idaho than Cyrodil.......

    Good job though.
  • Malamar1229
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    Jsmalls wrote: »
    @King_Thelon , no disrespect, you do your thing.

    I'm just saying as a Mag Sorc that has competed at high levels, a Sorcs bread and butter comes from burst. We don't have sustained dps in PvP, and our damage depends on a curse that takes 3 seconds to hit, and a slow moving projectile that is VERY easily dodged or blocked that only procs "35%" of the time (that's been nerfed in two consecutive updates).

    Light/heavy staff attacks were nerfed into the ground (5k damage for a heavy staff attack is laughable compared to the old days) which we used to setup our burst as well.

    So to see a build using 2500 spell damage with 40k magicka and no additional spell penetration, I don't see you conquering any decent player with that. And you'd certainly never get through my 28k in wards with that (hardened and harness). So if you're killing players with your curses and frag hitting for 13k collectively, then it's against players that A. Don't know how to manage their stamina or B. Don't know how to heal. And we call those players potatoes.

    Granted I haven't steadily played for about half a year, but...
    My Sorc sits at 50k magicka front bar, with the extra 3xxx penetration from Spinner, and 2800 spell damage without extraneous buffs, and even I have no chance of putting down some of these meta builds on decent players with that (I'm not saying that's even a high damage build, thats my niche for a balanced defense and offense and it's still "1300 spell damage higher")

    Just think you should overlook your build for improvements. Maybe you are a great player, I wouldn't know never came across you, but if you are, you're limiting yourself with that setup, your stats could be so much better (and I get that stats aren't everything, stat sheet warriors are laughable, but no one can say that don't help).

    P.S. @Minalan , yes that is horrific, clearly not using an ultimate for each kill is my current problem in this meta. Thanks Zos for nerfing my scaling dark conversation, streak, my wards, my staff attacks, my frags (damage wise and CC wise), and making it a meta to have 30k resistance, and holding block indefinitely. A meta that completely goes against everything a Sorc is (resistance and block do not apply to shields so offers us no benefit).

    50k magicka and you said spinners means you have no sustain so you are dead after your second burst rotation. Hell my unbuffed spell dmg is even lower than 2500 and I do quite well 1vX and in duels.
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