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Was Lethal Arrow buffed?

Nebbles
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Hey

Quick one. Came back to the game after a few months break. I only play no CP campaign. I'm in light armor all impen, usually with volatile armor up. I've been regularly getting hit by Lethal Arrows for 7K-11K non crit. I dont remember such high damage, either receiving it or causing it on my old Stam NB. Just wondering if I missed something in the patch notes over the months.

Thanks.
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  • DDuke
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    Asylum Bow perhaps ^^

    Were you getting hit by Bombard or Acid Spray before those snipes landed?
  • Nebbles
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    DDuke wrote: »
    Asylum Bow perhaps ^^

    Were you getting hit by Bombard or Acid Spray before those snipes landed?

    Hmm new bow to me, must look it up.

    I dont think I was hit by either of those in all cases, maybe some, but not all. It's not a once off either (tho the 11K one was). Just surprised at the damage. Thank god I had scales up on some occasions, nearly got a few kills from people spamming it :D
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    Nebbles wrote: »
    DDuke wrote: »
    Asylum Bow perhaps ^^

    Were you getting hit by Bombard or Acid Spray before those snipes landed?

    Hmm new bow to me, must look it up.

    I dont think I was hit by either of those in all cases, maybe some, but not all. It's not a once off either (tho the 11K one was). Just surprised at the damage. Thank god I had scales up on some occasions, nearly got a few kills from people spamming it :D

    50% more damage added to snipe, poison injection or scattershot
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  • Nebbles
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    Nebbles wrote: »
    DDuke wrote: »
    Asylum Bow perhaps ^^

    Were you getting hit by Bombard or Acid Spray before those snipes landed?

    Hmm new bow to me, must look it up.

    I dont think I was hit by either of those in all cases, maybe some, but not all. It's not a once off either (tho the 11K one was). Just surprised at the damage. Thank god I had scales up on some occasions, nearly got a few kills from people spamming it :D

    50% more damage added to snipe, poison injection or scattershot

    yea just researched it. yeouch! Playing AvA tonight, and been keeping an eye out and you're right, I've noticed more and more people using acid spray, so that is obviously contributing to it.

    Thanks to everyone for the info.

    Makes me desire even more for pvp rewards to have a total rework so those of us that pvp 99% of the time dont have to farm our lives away for stuff.
    Edited by Nebbles on January 11, 2018 9:57PM
  • Toc de Malsvi
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    Nebbles wrote: »
    Nebbles wrote: »
    DDuke wrote: »
    Asylum Bow perhaps ^^

    Were you getting hit by Bombard or Acid Spray before those snipes landed?

    Hmm new bow to me, must look it up.

    I dont think I was hit by either of those in all cases, maybe some, but not all. It's not a once off either (tho the 11K one was). Just surprised at the damage. Thank god I had scales up on some occasions, nearly got a few kills from people spamming it :D

    50% more damage added to snipe, poison injection or scattershot

    yea just researched it. yeouch! Playing AvA tonight, and been keeping an eye out and you're right, I've noticed more and more people using acid spray, so that is obviously contributing to it.

    Thanks to everyone for the info.

    Makes me desire even more for pvp rewards to have a total rework so those of us that pvp 99% of the time dont have to farm our lives away for stuff.

    The non-perfected does 45% and you can get it from a normal version. Its hardly a farm, everyone gets a guaranteed weapon drop for completing Asylum Sanctorium and you can retrait to your preferred trait.
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  • Trashs1
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    asylum normal is done in 10 to 15 minutes
    Edited by Trashs1 on January 12, 2018 6:46AM
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  • davey1107
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    It doesn’t have to be an asylum bow...it probably isn’t, that’s a difficult one to proc in pvp.

    Since it’s lethal arrow, it’s likely a marksman + Morag Tong combo. This will stack:

    +8% Marks
    +10% Morag
    + 20% major brutality
    + 8% merciless resolve (NB)
    + penetration from 1 Kragh
    + 20% radiant magelight (from might of the guild passive)

    = deadly snipe incoming. They can also cast mark on you really quick while the attack is in the air...which negates your volatile armor. Non-crit average damage value is going to be about 10k.

    For this particular attack, you’re being hurt by being in a no-CP campaign. Why? The current sets and abilities have been “balanced” with CPs in mind. Snipe has been set to hit hard because it needs to in CP campaigns where players run a fair bit of defense. In this case, your opponent is getting a long list of benefits from the meta game and hitting you at a point where you get none...they use a powerful ability designed to take out heavily armored enemies and buff it to the max in a way that doesn’t require CPs to make deadly.

    This is why I personally don’t like non-cp campaigns (although I understand why people do). The game currently seeks a balance by setting CPs, available gear and ability values at levels that work with one another. When you take CPs oit of the equation, you still have the sets and abilities, so builds that rely on these more are stronger and therefore classes can perform irregularly. Some benefit, others are hurt. A sniper’s attacks are helped in non-cp, but they’ll be squishy as heck and will run dry fast.
  • Nebbles
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    Thank you all for the really informative and helpful replies. I understand things a lot better now. I admit I was worried most of the replies would be of the "l2p" flavour, so I appreciate the learnings |I got from you all.
  • killimandrosb16_ESO
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    ye it really sounds like a lethal arrow with poisons on instead of enchantments (add that @Davey1107) combined with marksmans and morag tong. I get regularly 1ok non crit hits with that one. In CP campaign I also get 10k non crit hits, but thats on medium armour players or light armour with one shield down. Most Ive managed on a 690 was 18k so far. But, youre gonna be squishy as a tomato with that build so I cant really recommend it either
    Edited by killimandrosb16_ESO on January 13, 2018 3:42AM
  • Dredlord
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    Nebbles wrote: »
    Thank you all for the really informative and helpful replies. I understand things a lot better now. I admit I was worried most of the replies would be of the "l2p" flavour, so I appreciate the learnings |I got from you all.

    I like this guys attitude, great example for the rest of the forums, me incuded.
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