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Is it just me?

MourncallerTV
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I am usually a very calm person. I am usually a very quiet person having not much to speak on. Sometimes when I speak it's just an opinion, other times it's just an observation. Well this time it's an observation and I have no way to prove it. At this point I guess it would be considered mere speculation.

So my observation/speculation is thus: a majority of loading screen issues are tied in with the ESO Plus feature. I say this because ever since I did the eso plus feature I started having issues.
See here's the thing. I recentlly played Tera and it got to the point I couldn't play it at all due to an immense about of lag.


Please correct me if my observation is just plain ignorance. I'm new to the concept of "gaming online / mmo's" I'm use to console gaming and solo at that.


So if you are out there.. please guide my mind to sanity. For enjoyments sake.
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  • Elsonso
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    When you say "loading screen issues", can you be more specific? Which loading screens? Logging into the character, changing zones (like via wayshrine), Cyrodiil?
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  • stewhead2ub17_ESO
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    Why would "ESO Plus" have any bearing whatsoever on your loading screens? I've been a plus member since launch and can't recall experiencing any loading screen issues of note.
  • Tasear
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    Probably jumping to false logical conclusion. There's more going on here.
    Edited by Tasear on January 10, 2018 1:08PM
  • VaranisArano
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    I'm on PC/NA (I live in North America, even) and get the usual loading screens and lag in Cyrodiil. Last night a couple of my raid mates were complaining about their terrible FPS/ping and I was like "yeah, that's what mine is at normally, guys."

    Personally, I blame the fact that for all that I have the best internet around, I still live next to a corn field, across from a bean field, and have another corn field for a backyard. But I'm not moving, so I'll live with it.
  • LadyAstrum
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    I get long loading screens, just entering or leaving a delve/public dungeon/logging into the game/wayshrines/leaving house. My boyfriend gets this too. There seems to be no rhyme or reason as to why I get random long load screens.
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  • Aisle9
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    Rimbaldi wrote: »
    I am usually a very calm person. I am usually a very quiet person having not much to speak on. Sometimes when I speak it's just an opinion, other times it's just an observation. Well this time it's an observation and I have no way to prove it. At this point I guess it would be considered mere speculation.

    So my observation/speculation is thus: a majority of loading screen issues are tied in with the ESO Plus feature. I say this because ever since I did the eso plus feature I started having issues.
    See here's the thing. I recentlly played Tera and it got to the point I couldn't play it at all due to an immense about of lag.


    Please correct me if my observation is just plain ignorance. I'm new to the concept of "gaming online / mmo's" I'm use to console gaming and solo at that.


    So if you are out there.. please guide my mind to sanity. For enjoyments sake.

    I can't give you an accurate answer because I lack the necessary informations.

    I can tell you that the amount of things you have in your inventory, in many similar games, may cause performance issues, ESO+ give you access to crafting bags, crafting bags allow for a virtually infinite amount of stuff in your inventory, therefore one could speculate that:

    - In the presence of a low end PC or system;
    - In the presence of an unstable or unreliable connection to the Internet;
    - In the presence of crafting bags filled to the brink with stuff;
    - Assuming the game does indeed calculate crafting bags with the inventory's content when loading a cell.

    Yes, one could conclude ESO+ may cause longer loading screens.

    This conclusion assumes that every time your character is loaded, the content of your inventory is also recalculated (which may not be the case) and that crafting bags are considered part of your inventory (which may also not be the case).

    That said, the existence of other issues (Internet connection issues, low end system issues) are important to the issue's existence (ESO+ causing longer loading screens) due to the fact that the calculations needed are generally tiny.

    In conclusion, you may say that if the aforementioned conditions were met (low end system, Internet connection issues, the need to re-calculate the inventory, and the crafting bags being part of said calculations) yes, ESO+ may be the cause to longer loading screens, if you're running the game on a potato, with a dial-up connection and a 56kb/s modem.

    It's more likely the servers are experiencing problems, or there's a bad node in the routing between you and the servers (there are usually a couple bottlenecks near Frankfurt, BTW if you play in PC-EU) or your system is downloading informations (e.g. Win10 updates) or your HDD is getting old. On an unrelated note, switching to an SSD and having the game on it will considerably lessen the overall loading times, especially in crowded areas.

    Hope this helps.
    Have a nice day.

    *edit*
    To answer the question in the title, no, it's not just you. Every time you ask yourself "Is it just me or <insert question>" the answer is almost always "No, there's someone else thinking the same somewhere". With the amount of people currently living on the globe the chances for original thoughts are slight at best.

    Edited by Aisle9 on January 10, 2018 2:05PM
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  • Elsonso
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    Why would "ESO Plus" have any bearing whatsoever on your loading screens? I've been a plus member since launch and can't recall experiencing any loading screen issues of note.

    This is why I was asking about what loading screens they are seeing. There actually is a potentially plausible reason why ESO Plus might add to certain load screens being longer.

    The main reason for loading screens, when loading a character and when loading a zone in PVE, seems to be to establish the player's character in the Zone with other characters. They have to find a place for the player in the zone, and there is a criteria for placing players into zones that have more than one "instance". Once they determine that, they have to identify all the players in the zone with them and load any assets (models and textures) that need to be loaded so that when they come out of the loading screen, things can begin to display.

    I am wondering whether they are attempting to place ESO Plus players together into zones, when the opportunity arises, and that this could cause longer loading screens due to the fact that ESO Plus players are likely to have more complicated assets to load (costumes, mounts, pets, etc).

    Since any attempt to group ESO Plus players together would result in the opposite, non-ESO Plus players being grouped together, it is possible that the difference in loading times might be something that could be noticed.

    Just an idle thought. I haven't given it much thought, really. It might be nothing.
    Edited by Elsonso on January 10, 2018 1:48PM
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  • Nestor
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    Have you opened the Ports for the game on your router?

    Have you allowed the game in your Firewall/AV if your on PC?

    Have you, if on PC, disabled all addons to see if it gets better?
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  • eso_lags
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    Well op i can tell you this....Personally i get loading screens about 10-30 times a day depending on how much i play.. But the real issue is the lag..

    I lag like hell. Im sick of lagging in the game. Im sick of lagging while trying to pvp alone... I want zos to fix the lag.. I have eso plus.. I didnt lag before i had eso plus.. My friends dont have eso plus... They still lag... I have nightmares about lag... The lag might be driving me to the brink of insanity... I changed my gamertag to eso lags about 10 months ago.. Im still lagging.

    Edited by eso_lags on January 10, 2018 2:47PM
  • MourncallerTV
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    When you say "loading screen issues", can you be more specific? Which loading screens? Logging into the character, changing zones (like via wayshrine), Cyrodiil?

    To answer your questions. (Yes- all that)
    • It's both pvp area and pve area, and it also includes logging in loading screen and often includes changing characters and loading back in.
    • In pve area it's usually: 1. On death and resurrecting to a wayshrine. 2. Transiting from one wayshrine to another.
    • In pvp it's rather random to include: 1. Transit from one keep waypoint to another. 2. On Death, resurrecting to a keep way point.

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  • MourncallerTV
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    Why would "ESO Plus" have any bearing whatsoever on your loading screens? I've been a plus member since launch and can't recall experiencing any loading screen issues of note.

    I could be wrong ofcourse. It's just an observation.
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  • MourncallerTV
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Probably jumping to false logical conclusion. There's more going on here.

    You could be right. It's possible there is more going on than I may realize.
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  • MourncallerTV
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    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Rimbaldi wrote: »
    I am usually a very calm person. I am usually a very quiet person having not much to speak on. Sometimes when I speak it's just an opinion, other times it's just an observation. Well this time it's an observation and I have no way to prove it. At this point I guess it would be considered mere speculation.

    So my observation/speculation is thus: a majority of loading screen issues are tied in with the ESO Plus feature. I say this because ever since I did the eso plus feature I started having issues.
    See here's the thing. I recentlly played Tera and it got to the point I couldn't play it at all due to an immense about of lag.


    Please correct me if my observation is just plain ignorance. I'm new to the concept of "gaming online / mmo's" I'm use to console gaming and solo at that.


    So if you are out there.. please guide my mind to sanity. For enjoyments sake.

    I can't give you an accurate answer because I lack the necessary informations.

    I can tell you that the amount of things you have in your inventory, in many similar games, may cause performance issues, ESO+ give you access to crafting bags, crafting bags allow for a virtually infinite amount of stuff in your inventory, therefore one could speculate that:

    - In the presence of a low end PC or system;
    - In the presence of an unstable or unreliable connection to the Internet;
    - In the presence of crafting bags filled to the brink with stuff;
    - Assuming the game does indeed calculate crafting bags with the inventory's content when loading a cell.

    Yes, one could conclude ESO+ may cause longer loading screens.

    This conclusion assumes that every time your character is loaded, the content of your inventory is also recalculated (which may not be the case) and that crafting bags are considered part of your inventory (which may also not be the case).

    That said, the existence of other issues (Internet connection issues, low end system issues) are important to the issue's existence (ESO+ causing longer loading screens) due to the fact that the calculations needed are generally tiny.

    In conclusion, you may say that if the aforementioned conditions were met (low end system, Internet connection issues, the need to re-calculate the inventory, and the crafting bags being part of said calculations) yes, ESO+ may be the cause to longer loading screens, if you're running the game on a potato, with a dial-up connection and a 56kb/s modem.

    It's more likely the servers are experiencing problems, or there's a bad node in the routing between you and the servers (there are usually a couple bottlenecks near Frankfurt, BTW if you play in PC-EU) or your system is downloading informations (e.g. Win10 updates) or your HDD is getting old. On an unrelated note, switching to an SSD and having the game on it will considerably lessen the overall loading times, especially in crowded areas.

    Hope this helps.
    Have a nice day.

    *edit*
    To answer the question in the title, no, it's not just you. Every time you ask yourself "Is it just me or <insert question>" the answer is almost always "No, there's someone else thinking the same somewhere". With the amount of people currently living on the globe the chances for original thoughts are slight at best.
    You might just be on to something there. I know I don't have the newest computer in the world. This one is factory I believe and I also bought it at Staples.

    Specs:
    Processor=Intel Core i5 -4440 cpu @3.10ghz
    Installed Memory (RAM)= 8.gp
    Graphics on Motherboard= Intel HD Graphics 4600
    System Type= 64 Bit Operating System, X64-Based Processor
    Windows= 8.1
    2013

    In regards to the SSD, I've actually been considering getting an external one and seeing about the difference in performance I guess? I like things to be real smooth. I like to be able to see all the graphics and all the people.

    In the pvp area I often will find myself in a zerg spot and, well black avatars is what I usually end up seeing.
    Sometimes I'll lag when I enter a heavily populated spot like Vvardenfells crafting spot. It's like simon says stop and go traffic, if you can imagine the screen.

    Thanks for your view it was insightful.
    PC/NA
    Favorite Quote - "Never accept the proposition that just because a solution satisfies a problem, that it must be the only solution." - Raymond E. Feist
  • Hippie4927
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    Rimbaldi wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Rimbaldi wrote: »
    I am usually a very calm person. I am usually a very quiet person having not much to speak on. Sometimes when I speak it's just an opinion, other times it's just an observation. Well this time it's an observation and I have no way to prove it. At this point I guess it would be considered mere speculation.

    So my observation/speculation is thus: a majority of loading screen issues are tied in with the ESO Plus feature. I say this because ever since I did the eso plus feature I started having issues.
    See here's the thing. I recentlly played Tera and it got to the point I couldn't play it at all due to an immense about of lag.


    Please correct me if my observation is just plain ignorance. I'm new to the concept of "gaming online / mmo's" I'm use to console gaming and solo at that.


    So if you are out there.. please guide my mind to sanity. For enjoyments sake.

    I can't give you an accurate answer because I lack the necessary informations.

    I can tell you that the amount of things you have in your inventory, in many similar games, may cause performance issues, ESO+ give you access to crafting bags, crafting bags allow for a virtually infinite amount of stuff in your inventory, therefore one could speculate that:

    - In the presence of a low end PC or system;
    - In the presence of an unstable or unreliable connection to the Internet;
    - In the presence of crafting bags filled to the brink with stuff;
    - Assuming the game does indeed calculate crafting bags with the inventory's content when loading a cell.

    Yes, one could conclude ESO+ may cause longer loading screens.

    This conclusion assumes that every time your character is loaded, the content of your inventory is also recalculated (which may not be the case) and that crafting bags are considered part of your inventory (which may also not be the case).

    That said, the existence of other issues (Internet connection issues, low end system issues) are important to the issue's existence (ESO+ causing longer loading screens) due to the fact that the calculations needed are generally tiny.

    In conclusion, you may say that if the aforementioned conditions were met (low end system, Internet connection issues, the need to re-calculate the inventory, and the crafting bags being part of said calculations) yes, ESO+ may be the cause to longer loading screens, if you're running the game on a potato, with a dial-up connection and a 56kb/s modem.

    It's more likely the servers are experiencing problems, or there's a bad node in the routing between you and the servers (there are usually a couple bottlenecks near Frankfurt, BTW if you play in PC-EU) or your system is downloading informations (e.g. Win10 updates) or your HDD is getting old. On an unrelated note, switching to an SSD and having the game on it will considerably lessen the overall loading times, especially in crowded areas.

    Hope this helps.
    Have a nice day.

    *edit*
    To answer the question in the title, no, it's not just you. Every time you ask yourself "Is it just me or <insert question>" the answer is almost always "No, there's someone else thinking the same somewhere". With the amount of people currently living on the globe the chances for original thoughts are slight at best.
    You might just be on to something there. I know I don't have the newest computer in the world. This one is factory I believe and I also bought it at Staples.

    Specs:
    Processor=Intel Core i5 -4440 cpu @3.10ghz
    Installed Memory (RAM)= 8.gp
    Graphics on Motherboard= Intel HD Graphics 4600
    System Type= 64 Bit Operating System, X64-Based Processor
    Windows= 8.1
    2013

    In regards to the SSD, I've actually been considering getting an external one and seeing about the difference in performance I guess? I like things to be real smooth. I like to be able to see all the graphics and all the people.

    In the pvp area I often will find myself in a zerg spot and, well black avatars is what I usually end up seeing.
    Sometimes I'll lag when I enter a heavily populated spot like Vvardenfells crafting spot. It's like simon says stop and go traffic, if you can imagine the screen.

    Thanks for your view it was insightful.

    You have integrated graphics and that is not good for gaming. You need a dedicated graphics card.
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  • MourncallerTV
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    Why would "ESO Plus" have any bearing whatsoever on your loading screens? I've been a plus member since launch and can't recall experiencing any loading screen issues of note.

    This is why I was asking about what loading screens they are seeing. There actually is a potentially plausible reason why ESO Plus might add to certain load screens being longer.

    The main reason for loading screens, when loading a character and when loading a zone in PVE, seems to be to establish the player's character in the Zone with other characters. They have to find a place for the player in the zone, and there is a criteria for placing players into zones that have more than one "instance". Once they determine that, they have to identify all the players in the zone with them and load any assets (models and textures) that need to be loaded so that when they come out of the loading screen, things can begin to display.

    I am wondering whether they are attempting to place ESO Plus players together into zones, when the opportunity arises, and that this could cause longer loading screens due to the fact that ESO Plus players are likely to have more complicated assets to load (costumes, mounts, pets, etc).

    Since any attempt to group ESO Plus players together would result in the opposite, non-ESO Plus players being grouped together, it is possible that the difference in loading times might be something that could be noticed.

    Just an idle thought. I haven't given it much thought, really. It might be nothing.

    I kind of wondered about that myself. What you say makes alot of sense too about textures. I might have to simply upgrade to a better graphics card compatible to my computer. Perhaps that and an SSD could solve my issue?
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  • MourncallerTV
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Have you opened the Ports for the game on your router?

    Have you allowed the game in your Firewall/AV if your on PC?

    Have you, if on PC, disabled all addons to see if it gets better?

    I'm not exactly Tech Savy. The router we have is at&t and I am not allowed to mess with it. It was pulling hair and fingernails just to be able to do a hardline netgear set up. I have on port dedicated to my netgear so that it's not just wireless for me. The At&t techs said to get that to improve my strength etc since I am into gaming. They said it would be just like being plugged directly into the router.

    I am on PC. So here is a question in regards to the firewall/av. How would I be able to play at all if it wasn't allowed in. I can play the game it's not blocked if that is what you are referring to? So I don't really understand.

    As far as add ons are concerned. I don't really have alot like other players do. In fact I did turn them off to see if my performance improved. There is no difference if I have the few I have on or off.
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  • MourncallerTV
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    Hippie4927 wrote: »
    Rimbaldi wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Rimbaldi wrote: »
    I am usually a very calm person. I am usually a very quiet person having not much to speak on. Sometimes when I speak it's just an opinion, other times it's just an observation. Well this time it's an observation and I have no way to prove it. At this point I guess it would be considered mere speculation.

    So my observation/speculation is thus: a majority of loading screen issues are tied in with the ESO Plus feature. I say this because ever since I did the eso plus feature I started having issues.
    See here's the thing. I recentlly played Tera and it got to the point I couldn't play it at all due to an immense about of lag.


    Please correct me if my observation is just plain ignorance. I'm new to the concept of "gaming online / mmo's" I'm use to console gaming and solo at that.


    So if you are out there.. please guide my mind to sanity. For enjoyments sake.

    I can't give you an accurate answer because I lack the necessary informations.

    I can tell you that the amount of things you have in your inventory, in many similar games, may cause performance issues, ESO+ give you access to crafting bags, crafting bags allow for a virtually infinite amount of stuff in your inventory, therefore one could speculate that:

    - In the presence of a low end PC or system;
    - In the presence of an unstable or unreliable connection to the Internet;
    - In the presence of crafting bags filled to the brink with stuff;
    - Assuming the game does indeed calculate crafting bags with the inventory's content when loading a cell.

    Yes, one could conclude ESO+ may cause longer loading screens.

    This conclusion assumes that every time your character is loaded, the content of your inventory is also recalculated (which may not be the case) and that crafting bags are considered part of your inventory (which may also not be the case).

    That said, the existence of other issues (Internet connection issues, low end system issues) are important to the issue's existence (ESO+ causing longer loading screens) due to the fact that the calculations needed are generally tiny.

    In conclusion, you may say that if the aforementioned conditions were met (low end system, Internet connection issues, the need to re-calculate the inventory, and the crafting bags being part of said calculations) yes, ESO+ may be the cause to longer loading screens, if you're running the game on a potato, with a dial-up connection and a 56kb/s modem.

    It's more likely the servers are experiencing problems, or there's a bad node in the routing between you and the servers (there are usually a couple bottlenecks near Frankfurt, BTW if you play in PC-EU) or your system is downloading informations (e.g. Win10 updates) or your HDD is getting old. On an unrelated note, switching to an SSD and having the game on it will considerably lessen the overall loading times, especially in crowded areas.

    Hope this helps.
    Have a nice day.

    *edit*
    To answer the question in the title, no, it's not just you. Every time you ask yourself "Is it just me or <insert question>" the answer is almost always "No, there's someone else thinking the same somewhere". With the amount of people currently living on the globe the chances for original thoughts are slight at best.
    You might just be on to something there. I know I don't have the newest computer in the world. This one is factory I believe and I also bought it at Staples.

    Specs:
    Processor=Intel Core i5 -4440 cpu @3.10ghz
    Installed Memory (RAM)= 8.gp
    Graphics on Motherboard= Intel HD Graphics 4600
    System Type= 64 Bit Operating System, X64-Based Processor
    Windows= 8.1
    2013

    In regards to the SSD, I've actually been considering getting an external one and seeing about the difference in performance I guess? I like things to be real smooth. I like to be able to see all the graphics and all the people.

    In the pvp area I often will find myself in a zerg spot and, well black avatars is what I usually end up seeing.
    Sometimes I'll lag when I enter a heavily populated spot like Vvardenfells crafting spot. It's like simon says stop and go traffic, if you can imagine the screen.

    Thanks for your view it was insightful.

    You have integrated graphics and that is not good for gaming. You need a dedicated graphics card.

    ***edited out**** I googled the difference and your right. This is probably my largest and main issue to deal with.
    Edited by MourncallerTV on January 11, 2018 8:23AM
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  • Hippie4927
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    Rimbaldi wrote: »
    Hippie4927 wrote: »
    Rimbaldi wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Rimbaldi wrote: »
    I am usually a very calm person. I am usually a very quiet person having not much to speak on. Sometimes when I speak it's just an opinion, other times it's just an observation. Well this time it's an observation and I have no way to prove it. At this point I guess it would be considered mere speculation.

    So my observation/speculation is thus: a majority of loading screen issues are tied in with the ESO Plus feature. I say this because ever since I did the eso plus feature I started having issues.
    See here's the thing. I recentlly played Tera and it got to the point I couldn't play it at all due to an immense about of lag.


    Please correct me if my observation is just plain ignorance. I'm new to the concept of "gaming online / mmo's" I'm use to console gaming and solo at that.


    So if you are out there.. please guide my mind to sanity. For enjoyments sake.

    I can't give you an accurate answer because I lack the necessary informations.

    I can tell you that the amount of things you have in your inventory, in many similar games, may cause performance issues, ESO+ give you access to crafting bags, crafting bags allow for a virtually infinite amount of stuff in your inventory, therefore one could speculate that:

    - In the presence of a low end PC or system;
    - In the presence of an unstable or unreliable connection to the Internet;
    - In the presence of crafting bags filled to the brink with stuff;
    - Assuming the game does indeed calculate crafting bags with the inventory's content when loading a cell.

    Yes, one could conclude ESO+ may cause longer loading screens.

    This conclusion assumes that every time your character is loaded, the content of your inventory is also recalculated (which may not be the case) and that crafting bags are considered part of your inventory (which may also not be the case).

    That said, the existence of other issues (Internet connection issues, low end system issues) are important to the issue's existence (ESO+ causing longer loading screens) due to the fact that the calculations needed are generally tiny.

    In conclusion, you may say that if the aforementioned conditions were met (low end system, Internet connection issues, the need to re-calculate the inventory, and the crafting bags being part of said calculations) yes, ESO+ may be the cause to longer loading screens, if you're running the game on a potato, with a dial-up connection and a 56kb/s modem.

    It's more likely the servers are experiencing problems, or there's a bad node in the routing between you and the servers (there are usually a couple bottlenecks near Frankfurt, BTW if you play in PC-EU) or your system is downloading informations (e.g. Win10 updates) or your HDD is getting old. On an unrelated note, switching to an SSD and having the game on it will considerably lessen the overall loading times, especially in crowded areas.

    Hope this helps.
    Have a nice day.

    *edit*
    To answer the question in the title, no, it's not just you. Every time you ask yourself "Is it just me or <insert question>" the answer is almost always "No, there's someone else thinking the same somewhere". With the amount of people currently living on the globe the chances for original thoughts are slight at best.
    You might just be on to something there. I know I don't have the newest computer in the world. This one is factory I believe and I also bought it at Staples.

    Specs:
    Processor=Intel Core i5 -4440 cpu @3.10ghz
    Installed Memory (RAM)= 8.gp
    Graphics on Motherboard= Intel HD Graphics 4600
    System Type= 64 Bit Operating System, X64-Based Processor
    Windows= 8.1
    2013

    In regards to the SSD, I've actually been considering getting an external one and seeing about the difference in performance I guess? I like things to be real smooth. I like to be able to see all the graphics and all the people.

    In the pvp area I often will find myself in a zerg spot and, well black avatars is what I usually end up seeing.
    Sometimes I'll lag when I enter a heavily populated spot like Vvardenfells crafting spot. It's like simon says stop and go traffic, if you can imagine the screen.

    Thanks for your view it was insightful.

    You have integrated graphics and that is not good for gaming. You need a dedicated graphics card.

    ***edited out**** I googled the difference and your right. This is probably my largest and main issue to deal with.

    Yeah! Integrated graphics is just not good for gaming. Get yourself a decent dedicated graphics card and you will probably be good to go.
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  • MourncallerTV
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    Hippie4927 wrote: »
    Rimbaldi wrote: »
    Hippie4927 wrote: »
    Rimbaldi wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Rimbaldi wrote: »
    I am usually a very calm person. I am usually a very quiet person having not much to speak on. Sometimes when I speak it's just an opinion, other times it's just an observation. Well this time it's an observation and I have no way to prove it. At this point I guess it would be considered mere speculation.

    So my observation/speculation is thus: a majority of loading screen issues are tied in with the ESO Plus feature. I say this because ever since I did the eso plus feature I started having issues.
    See here's the thing. I recentlly played Tera and it got to the point I couldn't play it at all due to an immense about of lag.


    Please correct me if my observation is just plain ignorance. I'm new to the concept of "gaming online / mmo's" I'm use to console gaming and solo at that.


    So if you are out there.. please guide my mind to sanity. For enjoyments sake.

    I can't give you an accurate answer because I lack the necessary informations.

    I can tell you that the amount of things you have in your inventory, in many similar games, may cause performance issues, ESO+ give you access to crafting bags, crafting bags allow for a virtually infinite amount of stuff in your inventory, therefore one could speculate that:

    - In the presence of a low end PC or system;
    - In the presence of an unstable or unreliable connection to the Internet;
    - In the presence of crafting bags filled to the brink with stuff;
    - Assuming the game does indeed calculate crafting bags with the inventory's content when loading a cell.

    Yes, one could conclude ESO+ may cause longer loading screens.

    This conclusion assumes that every time your character is loaded, the content of your inventory is also recalculated (which may not be the case) and that crafting bags are considered part of your inventory (which may also not be the case).

    That said, the existence of other issues (Internet connection issues, low end system issues) are important to the issue's existence (ESO+ causing longer loading screens) due to the fact that the calculations needed are generally tiny.

    In conclusion, you may say that if the aforementioned conditions were met (low end system, Internet connection issues, the need to re-calculate the inventory, and the crafting bags being part of said calculations) yes, ESO+ may be the cause to longer loading screens, if you're running the game on a potato, with a dial-up connection and a 56kb/s modem.

    It's more likely the servers are experiencing problems, or there's a bad node in the routing between you and the servers (there are usually a couple bottlenecks near Frankfurt, BTW if you play in PC-EU) or your system is downloading informations (e.g. Win10 updates) or your HDD is getting old. On an unrelated note, switching to an SSD and having the game on it will considerably lessen the overall loading times, especially in crowded areas.

    Hope this helps.
    Have a nice day.

    *edit*
    To answer the question in the title, no, it's not just you. Every time you ask yourself "Is it just me or <insert question>" the answer is almost always "No, there's someone else thinking the same somewhere". With the amount of people currently living on the globe the chances for original thoughts are slight at best.
    You might just be on to something there. I know I don't have the newest computer in the world. This one is factory I believe and I also bought it at Staples.

    Specs:
    Processor=Intel Core i5 -4440 cpu @3.10ghz
    Installed Memory (RAM)= 8.gp
    Graphics on Motherboard= Intel HD Graphics 4600
    System Type= 64 Bit Operating System, X64-Based Processor
    Windows= 8.1
    2013

    In regards to the SSD, I've actually been considering getting an external one and seeing about the difference in performance I guess? I like things to be real smooth. I like to be able to see all the graphics and all the people.

    In the pvp area I often will find myself in a zerg spot and, well black avatars is what I usually end up seeing.
    Sometimes I'll lag when I enter a heavily populated spot like Vvardenfells crafting spot. It's like simon says stop and go traffic, if you can imagine the screen.

    Thanks for your view it was insightful.

    You have integrated graphics and that is not good for gaming. You need a dedicated graphics card.

    ***edited out**** I googled the difference and your right. This is probably my largest and main issue to deal with.

    Yeah! Integrated graphics is just not good for gaming. Get yourself a decent dedicated graphics card and you will probably be good to go.

    Time to start saving again. lol

    Thanks for that tip.
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  • Aisle9
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    An SSD is probably the best and cheapest upgrade you can do for the graphics issue. The larger the textures, the more time it takes to load them, so an HDD (which is usually much slower) may be a bottleneck.

    In your case is definitely not your bottleneck, that's the graphic adapter. If your GPU can't process the data, it doesn't matter how fast it reads them from storage. I'd go for a new graphic card first.

    When buying new hardware make sure your motherboard supports it, has slots for it, and your case is large enough to house it.

    To temporary fix your issue in Cyrodiil you could try to use
    http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info882-ShissusGameAvABooster.html

    It hasn't been updated in a while, but it still works quite good. Ofc this will disable everything it can to make sure your performances are decent to playable, so it's not going to be pretty.

    *edit*
    IIRC support for windows 8.1 ended, so I would also consider upgrading to windows 10 pro (to have support for more RAM), to be able to keep your drivers (especially graphic) updated. If you buy Nvidia make sure to also join the forums.

    Edited by Aisle9 on January 11, 2018 9:55AM
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  • Elsonso
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    Rimbaldi wrote: »
    Why would "ESO Plus" have any bearing whatsoever on your loading screens? I've been a plus member since launch and can't recall experiencing any loading screen issues of note.

    This is why I was asking about what loading screens they are seeing. There actually is a potentially plausible reason why ESO Plus might add to certain load screens being longer.

    The main reason for loading screens, when loading a character and when loading a zone in PVE, seems to be to establish the player's character in the Zone with other characters. They have to find a place for the player in the zone, and there is a criteria for placing players into zones that have more than one "instance". Once they determine that, they have to identify all the players in the zone with them and load any assets (models and textures) that need to be loaded so that when they come out of the loading screen, things can begin to display.

    I am wondering whether they are attempting to place ESO Plus players together into zones, when the opportunity arises, and that this could cause longer loading screens due to the fact that ESO Plus players are likely to have more complicated assets to load (costumes, mounts, pets, etc).

    Since any attempt to group ESO Plus players together would result in the opposite, non-ESO Plus players being grouped together, it is possible that the difference in loading times might be something that could be noticed.

    Just an idle thought. I haven't given it much thought, really. It might be nothing.

    I kind of wondered about that myself. What you say makes alot of sense too about textures. I might have to simply upgrade to a better graphics card compatible to my computer. Perhaps that and an SSD could solve my issue?

    I agree that the video card should be the first upgrade. The Intel HD Graphics 4600 is pretty slow. You can probably do better with a good sized box of Crayons. :smile:

    Edit: To put this into context, the nVIDIA GTX 660, which is what I started playing ESO on 4 years ago, is 6 times faster. I don't think the Intel HD Graphics 4600 even meets minimum specs for ESO. If you can upgrade the graphics card to a good PCIe x16 (card slot on motherboard) card with at least 4GB of RAM, you will see an amazing transformation of ESO when you play it.
    Edited by Elsonso on January 11, 2018 11:58AM
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  • MourncallerTV
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    Thanks for input guys. It helps alot.
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  • Alqu
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    I wonder what it is. I only get long loading screens in Cyrodiil. And it doesn't seem to be related to the number of people around when I zone in. I don't have long screens zoning into capitals where there are dozens of people.

    It also doesn't seem any different on my laptop (a 2017 decent but not high end gaming laptop with Nvidia 1050) or desktop (uber desktop I use to edit video, could swallow the gaming laptop, *** it out without a sore butt hole). Both of them 95% of the time have a few seconds of a loading screen, about enough to read the game tip, but in Cyrodiil I frequently get several minutes.

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  • Chaos2088
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    Hamsters on wheels running the servers are expensive.....plus the noise is terrible...maybe a ZoS employee just wanted 5 mins without the constant sound of those tiny legs and squeaky wheels......

    .....did anyone think of that dear employee??? You should all be ashamed!! :wink:
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  • Runefang
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    They haven't done maintenance for too long now.

    Please do some!

    ....Never thought I'd ask for it
  • PlagueSD
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    I run the game on an SSD. Cut my loading screen time down noticeably. I regularly play with my RL friend (neighbor) so we have the same internet. I always end up zoning first and waiting for him. I usually joke with him by zoning out, turning around and doing a /sitchair emote. When he finishes loading, he just sees me sitting in a chair waiting for him.

    Since I don't PvP I steer clear of Cyrodil as that's where the majority of the loading screen lag is.
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