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Gap closer exploit
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »
So if you gap-close into a keep on purpose or by accident and then promptly take advantage of this well-known glitch, I'm not sure how that isn't exploiting. ZOS may or may not take disciplinary action on it, intent being hard to prove, but for me its not why you gap-closed into the keep, its how you act once you get inside (the intended ways to attack defenders inside are to be A. already hidden in the keep, a completely legit way to do this, or B. break down the walls).
Well that is where our opinions differ. Once you are inside a keep, it no longer matters how you got there. You act (and are acted upon) exactly the same way as if you got there normally.
Fighting other players once you are already there (as opposed to "getting inside") can not possibly be considered exploiting, because if it was, then we have a weird situation where player A attacking player B is completely legit, but player B fighting back is considered exploiting. I'm sure you see the problem with that.
In my example that happened to me, the player that ambushed me was not merely fighting back. They were deliberately going upstairs and killing people. There's a world of difference between defending yourself and going all "the best defense is a good offense" on the keep defenders after having glitched into a keep.
Again, I'll judge you based on what you do once you're in the keep. ZOS can judge you however they want (since they apparently can't fix a well-known glitch with keep doors.)
However, I'm going to assume that we disagree and that we aren't going to change each other's mind.0 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »
So if you gap-close into a keep on purpose or by accident and then promptly take advantage of this well-known glitch, I'm not sure how that isn't exploiting. ZOS may or may not take disciplinary action on it, intent being hard to prove, but for me its not why you gap-closed into the keep, its how you act once you get inside (the intended ways to attack defenders inside are to be A. already hidden in the keep, a completely legit way to do this, or B. break down the walls).
Well that is where our opinions differ. Once you are inside a keep, it no longer matters how you got there. You act (and are acted upon) exactly the same way as if you got there normally.
Fighting other players once you are already there (as opposed to "getting inside") can not possibly be considered exploiting, because if it was, then we have a weird situation where player A attacking player B is completely legit, but player B fighting back is considered exploiting. I'm sure you see the problem with that.
There's a world of difference between defending yourself and going all "the best defense is a good offense" on the keep defenders after having glitched into a keep.
Mate, that's ridiculous. What are we now going to do, label people as exploiters because they used an offensive ability, but not if they use a defensive ability? And who's going to categorize abilities as "allowed" and "not allowed"? Is my DK using deep breath because he is in the middle of 10 enemies hitting him exploiting or not?
You cannot reasonably expect someone get attacked (because the guy who just got in through the door will get attacked) and have him worry about what abilities he can or can not use. You cannot possibly have players wondering whether they'd be banned for using their regular abilities.
If it is legit for player A to attack player B, then it also must be legit for player B to attack player A. No exceptions. And that regardless of "who started it". Anything else is madness.
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Goshua✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »
So if you gap-close into a keep on purpose or by accident and then promptly take advantage of this well-known glitch, I'm not sure how that isn't exploiting. ZOS may or may not take disciplinary action on it, intent being hard to prove, but for me its not why you gap-closed into the keep, its how you act once you get inside (the intended ways to attack defenders inside are to be A. already hidden in the keep, a completely legit way to do this, or B. break down the walls).
Well that is where our opinions differ. Once you are inside a keep, it no longer matters how you got there. You act (and are acted upon) exactly the same way as if you got there normally.
Fighting other players once you are already there (as opposed to "getting inside") can not possibly be considered exploiting, because if it was, then we have a weird situation where player A attacking player B is completely legit, but player B fighting back is considered exploiting. I'm sure you see the problem with that.
so just conveniently forgetting 'it no longer matters how you got there' makes it ok all of a sudden?0 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »
So if you gap-close into a keep on purpose or by accident and then promptly take advantage of this well-known glitch, I'm not sure how that isn't exploiting. ZOS may or may not take disciplinary action on it, intent being hard to prove, but for me its not why you gap-closed into the keep, its how you act once you get inside (the intended ways to attack defenders inside are to be A. already hidden in the keep, a completely legit way to do this, or B. break down the walls).
Well that is where our opinions differ. Once you are inside a keep, it no longer matters how you got there. You act (and are acted upon) exactly the same way as if you got there normally.
Fighting other players once you are already there (as opposed to "getting inside") can not possibly be considered exploiting, because if it was, then we have a weird situation where player A attacking player B is completely legit, but player B fighting back is considered exploiting. I'm sure you see the problem with that.
so just conveniently forgetting 'it no longer matters how you got there' makes it ok all of a sudden?
I'm not forgetting anything. I'm just saying that while passing through a door in an unintended way may or may not be an exploit(depending on whether intentional or accidental, done repeatedly, etc.), normal, regular fighting once you are already inside certainly cannot be considered an exploit, for the reasons outlined in the previous posts.0 -
Goshua✭✭✭✭ok, not exploiting. I know they get a kick out of it, so calling them all sorts of names just makes them moist. lol
but if I maybe self righteous for moment (RP High Elf AD) , its poor game sir
Edited by Goshua on January 8, 2018 7:27AM0 -
Azurya✭✭✭✭✭
✭AngryOldMan wrote: »Its pretty annoying when people gap close trough doors and keep trolling inside keep. Thats not PVP, thats cheating. Please play fair, i dont mind getting ganked or killed in any other ways, thats part off PVP, but i get pretty angry when people exploit. Well angrier than usually, im an angry old man after all
well I think it is not an exploit, but it is certainly something that needs to be fixed, just like dmg going through rocks, trees, walls and so on. It is also raining in most houses inside, though they have a roof.
Lost night in cyro I got pulled through the wall by chains from a templar, there are things happening that shouldn´t be possible, but well, this is ESO they say..............0 -
lazerlaz✭✭✭I just don't understand why with all my powers I can't freaking climb a 10ft keep wall...3
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Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »
So if you gap-close into a keep on purpose or by accident and then promptly take advantage of this well-known glitch, I'm not sure how that isn't exploiting. ZOS may or may not take disciplinary action on it, intent being hard to prove, but for me its not why you gap-closed into the keep, its how you act once you get inside (the intended ways to attack defenders inside are to be A. already hidden in the keep, a completely legit way to do this, or B. break down the walls).
Well that is where our opinions differ. Once you are inside a keep, it no longer matters how you got there. You act (and are acted upon) exactly the same way as if you got there normally.
Fighting other players once you are already there (as opposed to "getting inside") can not possibly be considered exploiting, because if it was, then we have a weird situation where player A attacking player B is completely legit, but player B fighting back is considered exploiting. I'm sure you see the problem with that.
so just conveniently forgetting 'it no longer matters how you got there' makes it ok all of a sudden?
I'm not forgetting anything. I'm just saying that while passing through a door in an unintended way may or may not be an exploit(depending on whether intentional or accidental, done repeatedly, etc.), normal, regular fighting once you are already inside certainly cannot be considered an exploit, for the reasons outlined in the previous posts.
I think you're wrong. The bolded part isn't really the definition of exploiting (but it does have a bearing). The definition is whether you use the situation to your advantage. Sneaking to the walls and ganking siege-users who aren't expecting anybody to be there because the door is still closed - most definitely IS taking advantage of the situation - and therefore IS exploiting.
It stands to reason that glitching the door intentionally IS usually exploiting - but only really because the main reason to do it is to take advantage of the bug - ie. exploit it.
The only reason I can see to intentionally glitch through and NOT take advantage is to try and test the bug to report it. This is obviously NOT exploiting because you're not using it to gain an advantage.
And as always with these things, if there is even the hint of a grey area, It is always better to NOT take advantage of any bug and NOT to try to repeat it in case the Devs do decide that it is exploiting and hand you a nice ban.
Edited by Biro123 on January 8, 2018 11:35AMMinalan owes me a beer.
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Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »
So if you gap-close into a keep on purpose or by accident and then promptly take advantage of this well-known glitch, I'm not sure how that isn't exploiting. ZOS may or may not take disciplinary action on it, intent being hard to prove, but for me its not why you gap-closed into the keep, its how you act once you get inside (the intended ways to attack defenders inside are to be A. already hidden in the keep, a completely legit way to do this, or B. break down the walls).
Well that is where our opinions differ. Once you are inside a keep, it no longer matters how you got there. You act (and are acted upon) exactly the same way as if you got there normally.
Fighting other players once you are already there (as opposed to "getting inside") can not possibly be considered exploiting, because if it was, then we have a weird situation where player A attacking player B is completely legit, but player B fighting back is considered exploiting. I'm sure you see the problem with that.
so just conveniently forgetting 'it no longer matters how you got there' makes it ok all of a sudden?
I'm not forgetting anything. I'm just saying that while passing through a door in an unintended way may or may not be an exploit(depending on whether intentional or accidental, done repeatedly, etc.), normal, regular fighting once you are already inside certainly cannot be considered an exploit, for the reasons outlined in the previous posts.
I think you're wrong. The bolded part isn't really the definition of exploiting (but it does have a bearing). The definition is whether you use the situation to your advantage.
If you want to use a definition that broad then you are exploiting everytime you climb stairs in a keep to reach the upper level because you take advantage of the fact the stairs exist.
The important thing is whether what you are doing is legal or not. Getting through a closed door is obviously illegal (assuming it was not an accident). But once you are inside, making it illegal to fight other players when it is not illegal for them to fight you - that's nonsense.0 -
kwisatz✭✭✭✭As a nightblade, it's like a reflex to jump on the enemy, especially if he's trying to save his life going into a keep. I sometimes got in too, each and every single time unintentionally. Sometimes I killed, but more often I allow them to kill me without defending myself, hoping they'll understand.
Side effect is we currently fear to unwillingly "exploit" and we have to try not to use our ability in that circumstances.
I personally think it's not fair we can't use our build as we want just because a bug can convert a legit action into what seems to be cheating, while the only intention was just prevent the enemy to escape.2 -
Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »
So if you gap-close into a keep on purpose or by accident and then promptly take advantage of this well-known glitch, I'm not sure how that isn't exploiting. ZOS may or may not take disciplinary action on it, intent being hard to prove, but for me its not why you gap-closed into the keep, its how you act once you get inside (the intended ways to attack defenders inside are to be A. already hidden in the keep, a completely legit way to do this, or B. break down the walls).
Well that is where our opinions differ. Once you are inside a keep, it no longer matters how you got there. You act (and are acted upon) exactly the same way as if you got there normally.
Fighting other players once you are already there (as opposed to "getting inside") can not possibly be considered exploiting, because if it was, then we have a weird situation where player A attacking player B is completely legit, but player B fighting back is considered exploiting. I'm sure you see the problem with that.
so just conveniently forgetting 'it no longer matters how you got there' makes it ok all of a sudden?
I'm not forgetting anything. I'm just saying that while passing through a door in an unintended way may or may not be an exploit(depending on whether intentional or accidental, done repeatedly, etc.), normal, regular fighting once you are already inside certainly cannot be considered an exploit, for the reasons outlined in the previous posts.
I think you're wrong. The bolded part isn't really the definition of exploiting (but it does have a bearing). The definition is whether you use the situation to your advantage.
If you want to use a definition that broad then you are exploiting everytime you climb stairs in a keep to reach the upper level because you take advantage of the fact the stairs exist.
The important thing is whether what you are doing is legal or not. Getting through a closed door is obviously illegal (assuming it was not an accident). But once you are inside, making it illegal to fight other players when it is not illegal for them to fight you - that's nonsense.
Dammit - you made me go and look stuff up..
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Promote, upload, transmit, encourage or take part in any activity involving hacking, cracking, phishing, taking advantage of exploits or cheats and/or distribution of counterfeit software and/or Virtual Currency or virtual items. In an effort to continuously improve the Services, You and other players discovering exploits, cheats, cracks or other inconsistencies are required to report them to ZeniMax;
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And from dictionary.comexploit2
[verb ik-sploit; noun eks-ploit, ik-sploit]
Spell Syllables
verb (used with object)
1.
to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account:
to exploit a business opportunity.
2.
to use selfishly for one's own ends:
employers who exploit their workers.
3.
to advance or further through exploitation; promote:
He exploited his new movie through a series of guest appearances.
noun, Digital Technology.
4.
a flaw in hardware or software that is vulnerable to hacking or other cyberattacks.
a piece of software that takes advantage of such a flaw to compromise a computer system or network.
5.
(in a video game) the use of a bug or flaw in game design to a player’s advantage or to the disadvantage of other players.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/exploit?s=t
ie. not just just using the bug - but using it to your advantage.
Edited by Biro123 on January 8, 2018 2:30PMMinalan owes me a beer.
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✭✭✭AngryOldMan wrote: »Its pretty annoying when people gap close trough doors and keep trolling inside keep. Thats not PVP, thats cheating. Please play fair, i dont mind getting ganked or killed in any other ways, thats part off PVP, but i get pretty angry when people exploit. Well angrier than usually, im an angry old man after all
waaait, is this bug still on, or again???0 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »
So if you gap-close into a keep on purpose or by accident and then promptly take advantage of this well-known glitch, I'm not sure how that isn't exploiting. ZOS may or may not take disciplinary action on it, intent being hard to prove, but for me its not why you gap-closed into the keep, its how you act once you get inside (the intended ways to attack defenders inside are to be A. already hidden in the keep, a completely legit way to do this, or B. break down the walls).
Well that is where our opinions differ. Once you are inside a keep, it no longer matters how you got there. You act (and are acted upon) exactly the same way as if you got there normally.
Fighting other players once you are already there (as opposed to "getting inside") can not possibly be considered exploiting, because if it was, then we have a weird situation where player A attacking player B is completely legit, but player B fighting back is considered exploiting. I'm sure you see the problem with that.
so just conveniently forgetting 'it no longer matters how you got there' makes it ok all of a sudden?
I'm not forgetting anything. I'm just saying that while passing through a door in an unintended way may or may not be an exploit(depending on whether intentional or accidental, done repeatedly, etc.), normal, regular fighting once you are already inside certainly cannot be considered an exploit, for the reasons outlined in the previous posts.
I think you're wrong. The bolded part isn't really the definition of exploiting (but it does have a bearing). The definition is whether you use the situation to your advantage.
If you want to use a definition that broad then you are exploiting everytime you climb stairs in a keep to reach the upper level because you take advantage of the fact the stairs exist.
The important thing is whether what you are doing is legal or not. Getting through a closed door is obviously illegal (assuming it was not an accident). But once you are inside, making it illegal to fight other players when it is not illegal for them to fight you - that's nonsense.
Dammit - you made me go and look stuff up..
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Promote, upload, transmit, encourage or take part in any activity involving hacking, cracking, phishing, taking advantage of exploits or cheats and/or distribution of counterfeit software and/or Virtual Currency or virtual items. In an effort to continuously improve the Services, You and other players discovering exploits, cheats, cracks or other inconsistencies are required to report them to ZeniMax;
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And from dictionary.comexploit2
[verb ik-sploit; noun eks-ploit, ik-sploit]
Spell Syllables
verb (used with object)
1.
to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account:
to exploit a business opportunity.
2.
to use selfishly for one's own ends:
employers who exploit their workers.
3.
to advance or further through exploitation; promote:
He exploited his new movie through a series of guest appearances.
noun, Digital Technology.
4.
a flaw in hardware or software that is vulnerable to hacking or other cyberattacks.
a piece of software that takes advantage of such a flaw to compromise a computer system or network.
5.
(in a video game) the use of a bug or flaw in game design to a player’s advantage or to the disadvantage of other players.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/exploit?s=t
ie. not just just using the bug - but using it to your advantage.
The exploit involves bypassing a door. You take advantage of the exploit by bypassing the door.
At this point, you already broke the TOS(assuming it was intentional). It does not matter what you actually do next.
Assuming it was not intentional(and thus not an exploit, but an accident): if the attacking player who got inside should not be allowed to attack the defenders for the reason that he shouldn't be there in the firstplace, then the defenders should not be allowed to attack the attacking player either, for the same reason.
Can you imagine enforcing this rule? It would be a nightmare. Much easier to simply let the event take a natural course. In 99% cases, this means the one unfortunate attacker gets ganged upon and dies before he can blink, and the other 1% are too insignificant to create complicated rules for.Edited by Sharee on January 8, 2018 3:07PM4 -
Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No - the bug is passing the door - taking advantage is to then use the fact that you passed the door to 'do stuff'
But if that's your interpretation of exploit, then its your account that'll get the ban at some point - not mine.
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✭✭✭✭✭I can only imagine ZOS actioning this if there was a pattern of misuse. It's a very common bug as a gap closer is exactly the kind of ability used to catch a fleeing opponent. It is normal for opponents to try to prevent players from entering doors if they can.
Once inside, someone who does it unintentionally would not be in a position to consider the ramifications. They would need to think fast which would probably involve defending themselves immediately. Banning them would be completely unfair and ridiculous as ZOS has had years to fix the underlying issue -- which, of course they can as it's their own internal engine that they have complete control over.3 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I can only imagine ZOS actioning this if there was a pattern of misuse. It's a very common bug as a gap closer is exactly the kind of ability used to catch a fleeing opponent. It is normal for opponents to try to prevent players from entering doors if they can.
Once inside, someone who does it unintentionally would not be in a position to consider the ramifications. They would need to think fast which would probably involve defending themselves immediately. Banning them would be completely unfair and ridiculous as ZOS has had years to fix the underlying issue -- which, of course they can as it's their own internal engine that they have complete control over.
Exactly. At no point should an innocent player have to wonder whether using his normal abilities would get him banned.3 -
Moglijuana✭✭✭✭✭I miss the days where you could dragon leap into keeps and cause such a distraction that the zergs inside would forget about defending against siege entirely lol.1 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I can only imagine ZOS actioning this if there was a pattern of misuse. It's a very common bug as a gap closer is exactly the kind of ability used to catch a fleeing opponent. It is normal for opponents to try to prevent players from entering doors if they can.
Once inside, someone who does it unintentionally would not be in a position to consider the ramifications. They would need to think fast which would probably involve defending themselves immediately. Banning them would be completely unfair and ridiculous as ZOS has had years to fix the underlying issue -- which, of course they can as it's their own internal engine that they have complete control over.
If someone ambushes me and thus gets into the keep, I know that's a bug and I know it can happen accidentally. I'm not going to fault them for defending themselves. However, when that player immediately heads upstairs and begins fighting and killing multiple defenders, as I've seen happen, I'm definitely going to fault them for taking advantage of a well-known bug.1 -
Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I can only imagine ZOS actioning this if there was a pattern of misuse. It's a very common bug as a gap closer is exactly the kind of ability used to catch a fleeing opponent. It is normal for opponents to try to prevent players from entering doors if they can.
Once inside, someone who does it unintentionally would not be in a position to consider the ramifications. They would need to think fast which would probably involve defending themselves immediately. Banning them would be completely unfair and ridiculous as ZOS has had years to fix the underlying issue -- which, of course they can as it's their own internal engine that they have complete control over.
Exactly. At no point should an innocent player have to wonder whether using his normal abilities would get him banned.
I agree with that - and I agree that when it happens unintentionally, the player will instantly be trying to defend himself. That's fine imho, its a natural reaction.
However, if that player immediately cloaks, manages to hide and then, once the initial 'wtf?' has worn off - THEN what he decides next determines if exploiting or not. He could simply stay hidden, go up to the walls and drop off outside - not exploiting as he has gained no benefit from his actions - or he could go around ganking siegers - exploiting.
Its similar to other bugs I've seen in other MMO's in the past.. there have been locations in PVE where a player could accidentally port to - usually on a rock or something - locations where the mobs couldn't target him but he could target the mobs from absolute safety.
Getting to that position was the bug. Staying there and safely farming XP was exploiting (and did result in bans).. If he'd simply jumped back down and fought the mobs as intended - not exploiting.
I'd really hate for people to read your stuff, and think its fine to take advantage of exploits only to get banned at a later date.
Edited by Biro123 on January 8, 2018 3:54PMMinalan owes me a beer.
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✭While you guys argue about this my sorc’s frag can’t stun. Come on people!! We have bigger issues!
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TheValar85✭✭✭✭✭AngryOldMan wrote: »Well, im pretty sure as i got killed inside keep after getting trough door (to escape nightblade). Ressed inside and got killed again by the same player again (inside keep). Several others got ganked inside keep, we were multiple players reporting said guy for exploit, but guess what, i still see him online every day. Been 2 weeks since reporting. Thats not the only time i have seen people get trough doors. Creds to 1 guy who got trough and than just ran to the wall and jumped down, he didnt exploit the situation. So yeah, people can get trough door unwillingly because of mechanics, but using that to their advantage is not fair play
It happens by accident pretty easily. Especially if you’re trying to gap close someone heading for the door as a NB.
thats bullsheet it is not accident everybody who use gap close they know quiet well tehy are exploiting the game. I was in cyrodiil today in EU pc Shor and a guy from the reds are contantly used it to mess with the Dominion keeps. And dont even anybody Dare to say thats accident they know its an exploit and they use it to ruin the game play.
It needs to be fixed, and bann the exploiters. They know what are they doing and dont fall into those fake inocent sheet fest they come up for to defend them self while tehy are know they exploiting and they do it in porpuse.
Hate me and trhow rocsk at me i dont care, this must be fixed and the exploiters needs to be punished.
I highly suggest to the developers to lock down cyrodiil and fix the god damn place. This is utterly unacceptable what is going on in cyrodiil. And those players also ruins others gaming experiance not to mention they are also putting in the game reputations in to danger, and complitly painting a dump picture from teh developers who made this game. It is on you ZOS to deal with this once and for all. No one cares future contents till you cannot fix bugs like thiese.Edited by TheValar85 on January 9, 2018 7:19PMGM Of The Lusty Argonian ERPGM Of THe Alessia Dynasty PVP GuildGM Of The Guardians Of MiddleEarthMy Smiling Emperor Profile Picture: https://ibb.co/bsOM6n1 -
Palidon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Players using Gap Closure to gain entry into keeps is back with a vengeance. Yesterday 5/2/18 I had to deal with the same DC DK twice who gaped closed into ROE on two different occasions and was running the outer walls in an attempt to gank unsuspecting players. How do I know it was a cheat exploit. The keep was not under attack. I killed him the first time and minutes later he was back in the keep again. DK's have Empowering Chains. I would suspect that is what he used to gap close on one of the NPC's standing on the wall front gate and thus gained entry into the keep.
I blame you ZOS. You are the ones allowing cheating and exploits in Cyrodiil because you do absolutely nothing to deter it. But, let it be an exploit involving your precious Crown Store and its a different story. Bans and Perma Bans are the order of the day then. I reference the exploit involving one of your Homes which to me was not an exploit but a total mess you created. You were real quick to punish players then.2 -
Zouni✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Parrot1986 wrote: »Whilst I’m sure some have done this as an exploit especially when you could scale walls etc before. I know I’ve done this by attempting to gap close someone before they get through a keep door. That’s using toppling charge from magplar tree. I’ve also seen it happen with nightblades to me. I’ve never seen anyone do it then go on to take the keep though it pretty much results in a quick death and highlights just another broken part of the game
I've never seen anyone take a keep either. However, I have definitely seen that player charge up the stairs and begin killing defenders who weren't expecting to get ganked before the inner walls came down. That person was exploiting a broken game mechanic, whether or not they meant to get inside the keep by ambushing me when they did.
The flip side of that is that the defenders take advantage of that bug by killing the attacker who had no intention of placing themselves in such an unfavorable situation.Nyxtes - NB
Nyxta - Sorc
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✭✭✭✭✭There are more than one ways to get inside a keep that isn’t flamed.
The easiest way is to take down the doors / inner, go up top, avoid killing guards or guard Aggro, and wait for the doors to be repaired...PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo
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✭Players using Gap Closure to gain entry into keeps is back with a vengeance. Yesterday 5/2/18 I had to deal with the same DC DK twice who gaped closed into ROE on two different occasions and was running the outer walls in an attempt to gank unsuspecting players. How do I know it was a cheat exploit. The keep was not under attack. I killed him the first time and minutes later he was back in the keep again. DK's have Empowering Chains. I would suspect that is what he used to gap close on one of the NPC's standing on the wall front gate and thus gained entry into the keep.
I blame you ZOS. You are the ones allowing cheating and exploits in Cyrodiil because you do absolutely nothing to deter it. But, let it be an exploit involving your precious Crown Store and its a different story. Bans and Perma Bans are the order of the day then. I reference the exploit involving one of your Homes which to me was not an exploit but a total mess you created. You were real quick to punish players then.
Yep. I’ve reported the same EP DK doing the same thing multiple times to no effect. They were in Cyrodiil exploiting into keeps multiple times yesterday during a series of major battles. I unsubbed once years ago when B*****y the unkillable sorc was banned then unbanned after a few days, and will do so again if I keep seeing cheaters allowed to go unpunished.
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Kova✭✭✭✭✭I honestly thought this thread was going to point out that all gap closers grant players the gift of flight and we've just accepted it.
Funny how a bug only matters when it puts the majority at a disadvantage.EP Sorc: Aydinn
AD Stamplar: Verdant`Knight
DC Stamblade: Apple`Punch
EP Stam Sorc: Kós
AD DragonKnight: Transmigrant
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Taysa✭✭✭✭✭It's not a trial or some other PvE mechanic that awards an achievement, therefore ZoS doesn't care and won't fix it.Edited by Taysa on May 10, 2018 3:35PM5/24/18: The day ZoS suspended my forum account for trolling a troll.0 -
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✭✭The teleport through doors makes sense to me.
When you have a nighblade gapclosing you, don't enter keep doors. If you do enter and the NB ports in, it's your own fault because you were a pu**y.
I hope this doesn't ever get patched. 1 Nightblade in an enemy keep cannot do much anyways.0