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Extremely disappointed by the outfit system
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Korah_Eaglecry✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Some people wouldn’t be happy if they fell in a barrel of money.
Who put this barrel here? I was looking for the pool of money. This barrel is just not big enough, and doesnt hold nearly as much money as I was expecting with absolutely nothing to prompt me to expect it to begin with!Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax0 -
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✭✭✭Raiden_Gekkou wrote: »ESO+ers get crowns monthly anyway, quit whining.
That has nothing to do with anything and you know it. Mind coming up with an actual argument for why more slots should be locked behind the crown store, or do you just defend the crown store at every turn with "you get free crowns for subbing anyway"?
Because Zenimax need to make money? And this should be THE way to make money. Seriously, I don't like crown store, I hate crown crates, and even I find it absolutely acceptable. You get a free costume for every character, which you can then change on whim if you feel the desire to do so(well, for gold, but c'mon, they said it's <=2k a piece). If between that, costumes already in the game and actual armor looks you still feel you need more, then yes, off to crown store you go. Just like you go there for race change, additional char slots and the like. This stuff makes perfect sense to be there, it's things that you can get by without but if you feel you need them you buy them with real money. I'd be absolutely stoked if stuff like that was all they put in crown store.
Admittedly there's also the question of pricing it, but I don't think ZOS are quite dumb enough to make it 5k crowns or something. I'm actually shocked they're introducing something that good(from the sound of it) and NOT locking it behind crown store one way or the other completely. Give credit where credit is due, if everything they've said so far is true, it's a great system, and the crown store "wall" is just fine where it is.
Are you ACTUALLY under illusion that ZOS does not make money?
They do quite a bit with ESO+ alone and also from game sales and exp/dlc sales not to mention loot crates, housing and all the other crown stuff. If they were not doing enough and more, i believe the motif system for outfits would not be account wide.
But if you feel the game needs extra support, do like me and buy loot crates. Even if i hate them, they are a good way to give some more monetary support that in turn, could prevent them milking money from other areas of game. There are players who dont have money to buy crowns and they have the right to enjoy the game as well.
Are you ACTUALLY under illusion that money from crown crates goes into anything other than someone's pockets and next Crown Crates' system? Yeah, let's buy more ****ing gambling lootboxes so we can get even MORE of those with even more rng loot next season, but gods forbid we can actually directly buy costumizeable outfits. Nope, only crown crates, only hardcore!
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Dark_Lord_Kuro✭✭✭✭✭
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They did say an outfit is LIKE a costume but is overwriten by costume its not exacly the same
As much a i remember style willbe in colection not outfit could be wrong though
You can chage outfit like tittle witch a in your character screen not collection
So they still can be character based by what they said
And you can modify the same outfit an unlimited amont of time so if they arent shared you realy only need one
I dont see how creating an outfit out of any style
Is worst than changing style the result is the same (if what i think up there end up being true)
As for the gold the imperial and moragtong converter have to give you an advange over the rest since they are preorder bonus they should be better than the common system in some way being free to outfit to is the bonnus
In any way we will see monday on pst
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LadyAstrum✭✭✭✭✭
✭Upon further consideration, though I still like the idea, I'd have preffered that any armor piece appearance could be used, not just motifs. Armor pieces would have created a whole new economy for crafters to enjoy, rather than just selling motifs. I know they said motif "for now", so hopefully more or all armor types will be added, because at the moment, the more I step back objectively from my excitement and see the motif + crown store for extra slots, it looks like the intent was to make more money only.
Bleurgh, maybe I'm just feeling cynical today.
That said, GW2 did make the transmog stones cash store purchases as well.
Maybe this nickle and dime cash store business is starting to get to me. Seems like so many things are designed around cash stores now.Edited by LadyAstrum on January 6, 2018 6:28AM~ "You think me brutish? How do you imagine I view you?" - Molag Bal #misunderstood ~1 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
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YesHow high is my fall?
5mIs the barrel big enough for my somewhat large German frame?
NoDoes the barrel have any sharp corners?
YesAm i wearing protective gear?
Well, you've got skin...Will i need help getting out of the barrel?
Probably, also a stretcher, and possibly medical assistanceExactly how much money are we talking about anyways?
Probably about $1.37, adjusting for currency exchange rates.What currency is the money?
Hell money.Will i have to pay taxes on the barrel income?
Yeah, some.
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ADarklore✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What is interesting though, is that the 'change' per item is not permanent. In other words, on my Magplar, I sometimes run DW as main and sometimes Staff as main... so if I make a 'costume' that changes the Swords to look like Daggers... when I switch to the build that uses the Staff as main, I'd have to switch to another costume in order to have the staff design change. It would be nice if changes to weapons remained permanent so you wouldn't have to switch costumes each time you switched weapons... but I guess that's why they allow you to BUY extra costume slots.CP: 2105 ** ESO+ ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
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✭starkerealm wrote: »
Probably about $1.37, adjusting for currency exchange rates.
Well, that will at least buy you Freedom, since, as we know from Team America, it costs a buck o' five.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭LadyAstrum wrote: »Maybe this nickle and dime cash store business is starting to get to me. Seems like so many things are designed around cash stores now.
I always look at new features using a measuring stick of "what can I do for free". I pay little attention to the Crown Store pricing until that is established.
Outfit System has a lot that can be done for free. Everyone gets a free slot, and honestly, I am thinking that this will be plenty of slots for people. I think it will be one slot more than a lot of people use, to be honest.
Outfits can be created for gold. Gold is free in this game, and pretty easy to collect. From what we know so far, it will range in price from a few hundred gold to a few thousand gold. This is hardly a barrier to anyone willing to go out and get gold. Also, it is not like people are going to be creating an outfit every day. Like respecs, this will become something that will be done once in a while.
This really puts Outfits firmly into the "convenience" part of the Crown Store. The Tokens allow a player to bypass getting the gold, and is not really necessary. The extra slots are something that most players will not need.
I expected this system to be designed to drive people to the Crown Store, like the housing storage has turned out to be. Granted, we also need to find out what these Crown convenience things will cost when it is on the Live server.
Edited by Elsonso on January 6, 2018 2:45PMXBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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Perwulf✭✭✭✭✭Hey! It took them 3 years to figure out how to milk us more, at least give em some credit
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✭Exalted_Outlander wrote: »So what exactly are you mad about? The outfit system isn't too far a cry from transmogging. Its not what I expected but I'm happy with it.
Yes it is. Build-a-costume and restyling individual pieces of gear are vastly different implementations.
How is it different? Different is only mechanism, but the result remains the same - your character looks the way you wish. So I still don't understand what's the problem is.Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU0 -
Jura23✭✭✭✭✭
✭What is interesting though, is that the 'change' per item is not permanent. In other words, on my Magplar, I sometimes run DW as main and sometimes Staff as main... so if I make a 'costume' that changes the Swords to look like Daggers... when I switch to the build that uses the Staff as main, I'd have to switch to another costume in order to have the staff design change. It would be nice if changes to weapons remained permanent so you wouldn't have to switch costumes each time you switched weapons... but I guess that's why they allow you to BUY extra costume slots.
you dont have to switch costume, you can simply change your original costume for a little bit of gold.Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU0
