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Extremely disappointed by the outfit system
Cold91
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For years players of this game have been asking for a transmog system, ie the ability to transform one piece of armor of certain motif, into another motif. What we got (very late) was a costume creator. This is a bastardization of the original request (what are zos devs, half genie?). So now instead of the player base getting the simple system that they asked for, we can create ONE costume the creating and editing of which will cost an as yet undetermined amount of gold, and the ability to create more than one costume will be sold for real money via the crown store.
I am not against the crown store, nor against monetizing certain aspects of the game. I understand that revenue is essential to development and continued support for this IP. What is frankly bullspit is how ZoS twisted the players original desire for tranmog and created this outfit system completely mated to the crown store. And of course we still lack an actual transmog system, ie the ability to change the style "motif" of any peice of gear.
I am not against the crown store, nor against monetizing certain aspects of the game. I understand that revenue is essential to development and continued support for this IP. What is frankly bullspit is how ZoS twisted the players original desire for tranmog and created this outfit system completely mated to the crown store. And of course we still lack an actual transmog system, ie the ability to change the style "motif" of any peice of gear.
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✭✭✭It will likely mirror NWO where you literally just have a 2nd character sheet you can put equipment to that determines how your character looks0331
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✭✭✭✭✭This game needs revenue but honestly that need to expand and include unique transmog items4 -
So what exactly are you mad about? The outfit system isn't too far a cry from transmogging. Its not what I expected but I'm happy with it.Noxus The Strider | DC | Breton Magblade | alt
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pauli133✭✭✭✭✭
✭Exalted_Outlander wrote: »So what exactly are you mad about? The outfit system isn't too far a cry from transmogging. Its not what I expected but I'm happy with it.
Yes it is. Build-a-costume and restyling individual pieces of gear are vastly different implementations.20 -
Orticia✭✭✭✭Exalted_Outlander wrote: »So what exactly are you mad about? The outfit system isn't too far a cry from transmogging. Its not what I expected but I'm happy with it.
Yes it is. Build-a-costume and restyling individual pieces of gear are vastly different implementations.
I agree. While a costume maker is a nice bonus, what i really really wanted and want is restyling individual pieces of gear. That had way way way more freedom and options.22 -
Cold91✭✭✭Exalted_Outlander wrote: »So what exactly are you mad about? The outfit system isn't too far a cry from transmogging. Its not what I expected but I'm happy with it.
Well if you read my post you would see exactly what i'm mad about. Further, making a costume that ends up as just another costume in my collections tray is a very far cry from being able to just change any individual piece of gear i'm wearing from its current style to any of my known styles. To barney it down, this system doesn't let you actually change anything.8 -
Cold91✭✭✭Further food for thought is that a transmog system, a perfectly fine and workable one, already exists in-game. The converting gear to imperial or morag tong styles.12
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✭✭Exalted_Outlander wrote: »So what exactly are you mad about? The outfit system isn't too far a cry from transmogging. Its not what I expected but I'm happy with it.
Yes it is. Build-a-costume and restyling individual pieces of gear are vastly different implementations.
But it’s exactly the same effect.21 -
Cold91✭✭✭DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »how can u be disappointed when its not even out
Simple, i'm disappointed by the concept and implementation of the system.Edited by Cold91 on January 4, 2018 6:13PM6 -
DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER✭✭✭✭✭outfit system is awesome and i support this. MUCH better than transmog.
we can use heavy armor costume while wearing light MY DREAM COMES TRUEEdited by DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER on January 4, 2018 6:08PM37 -
pauli133✭✭✭✭✭
✭Further food for thought is that a transmog system, a perfectly fine and workable one, already exists in-game. The converting gear to imperial or morag tong styles.
That's a remarkably forgiving definition of "perfectly fine", but yes, the functionality that we want is there (despite its onerous and inexplicable limits).3 -
MopeyHat✭✭✭✭Exalted_Outlander wrote: »So what exactly are you mad about? The outfit system isn't too far a cry from transmogging. Its not what I expected but I'm happy with it.
Yes it is. Build-a-costume and restyling individual pieces of gear are vastly different implementations.
Transmog was always a PITA, at least in WoW. It's nice to be able to change my gear and not have to go back and rework the outfit. And it took gold in WoW too. Just trading one convenience for another.2 -
Cold91✭✭✭Some people wouldn’t be happy if they fell in a barrel of money.
I would be really happy to fall in a barrel of money. I be just as happy if ZoS implemented the transmog system to actually be a transmog system. Being able to make a costume, cool. But i'd rather be able to change the style of individual pieces of gear.5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭For years players of this game have been asking for a transmog system, ie the ability to transform one piece of armor of certain motif, into another motif. What we got (very late) was a costume creator. This is a bastardization of the original request (what are zos devs, half genie?). So now instead of the player base getting the simple system that they asked for, we can create ONE costume the creating and editing of which will cost an as yet undetermined amount of gold, and the ability to create more than one costume will be sold for real money via the crown store.
I am not against the crown store, nor against monetizing certain aspects of the game. I understand that revenue is essential to development and continued support for this IP. What is frankly bullspit is how ZoS twisted the players original desire for tranmog and created this outfit system completely mated to the crown store. And of course we still lack an actual transmog system, ie the ability to change the style "motif" of any peice of gear.
On the other hand myself and many people I know have been asking for an outfitting system more like LOTRO has and not wow style transmog. They can't do both, and you only speak for one side.
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Somber97866✭✭✭✭✭I agree with the fact that they already know how to transmog gear like emperial and marog tong. They should make all gear with that ability as long as you own motif book not just a page of it. Everyone getting a trophy just because they show up is bad idea. Builds crappy ppl and players.1
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Great, so I just need to purchase 13 more slots? Maybe a few more for options?
Let me guess, they are going to use the same dye system as the current costumes? Meaning 3 colors for the entire outfit.[DC/NA]0 -
Cold91✭✭✭For years players of this game have been asking for a transmog system, ie the ability to transform one piece of armor of certain motif, into another motif. What we got (very late) was a costume creator. This is a bastardization of the original request (what are zos devs, half genie?). So now instead of the player base getting the simple system that they asked for, we can create ONE costume the creating and editing of which will cost an as yet undetermined amount of gold, and the ability to create more than one costume will be sold for real money via the crown store.
I am not against the crown store, nor against monetizing certain aspects of the game. I understand that revenue is essential to development and continued support for this IP. What is frankly bullspit is how ZoS twisted the players original desire for tranmog and created this outfit system completely mated to the crown store. And of course we still lack an actual transmog system, ie the ability to change the style "motif" of any peice of gear.
On the other hand myself and many people I know have been asking for an outfitting system more like LOTRO has and not wow style transmog. They can't do both, and you only speak for one side.
Not only could they do both, when this outfitter system is implemted, they will have both. The ability to transmog gear to imperial and morag tong still exists, and id imagine they will expand on that as they see fit.
Congrats to you and whoever wanted this costume creator, I never played LOTRO or WOW so i have no idea how those were implemented. I can just say that to me, having a more fully fleshed out version of the conversion system already in game seems the better route.8 -
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✭Exalted_Outlander wrote: »So what exactly are you mad about? The outfit system isn't too far a cry from transmogging. Its not what I expected but I'm happy with it.
Yes it is. Build-a-costume and restyling individual pieces of gear are vastly different implementations.
Transmog was always a PITA, at least in WoW. It's nice to be able to change my gear and not have to go back and rework the outfit. And it took gold in WoW too. Just trading one convenience for another.
Transmog in WoW isn’t perfect but it’s a great and convenient system. Port to Dalaran, fly to the void guy, or buy the Yak. No problemo. Gold is incredibly easy to acquire so that’s really a non issue.
ALSO:
How much real life money do you spend on WoW Transmog? How much will you spend making costumes in ESO?
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✭✭✭✭✭My worst fear of a transmog system was that it would reduce crafters to reskinners. I should have known I was giving ZOS too much credit. We're not even reskinning. We're just making costumes that have nothing to do with what the character is actually using.
What an insult to those of us who've been dreaming of actual crafting being viable again."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle11 -
charley222✭✭✭✭110% agree the outfit system is very limited i guess for selling costume
already all motif helmet and Pauldrons are useless because monster set very poor customization vs other game wow gw2 rift ect... Edited by charley222 on January 4, 2018 6:26PMthe wall of the covenant2 -
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Is it paper money or coins?Some people wouldn’t be happy if they fell in a barrel of money.
How high is my fall?
Is the barrel big enough for my somewhat large German frame?
Does the barrel have any sharp corners?
Am i wearing protective gear?
Will i need help getting out of the barrel?
Exactly how much money are we talking about anyways?
What currency is the money?
Will i have to pay taxes on the barrel income?
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MopeyHat✭✭✭✭Exalted_Outlander wrote: »So what exactly are you mad about? The outfit system isn't too far a cry from transmogging. Its not what I expected but I'm happy with it.
Yes it is. Build-a-costume and restyling individual pieces of gear are vastly different implementations.
Transmog was always a PITA, at least in WoW. It's nice to be able to change my gear and not have to go back and rework the outfit. And it took gold in WoW too. Just trading one convenience for another.
Transmog in WoW isn’t perfect but it’s a great and convenient system. Port to Dalaran, fly to the void guy, or buy the Yak. No problemo. Gold is incredibly easy to acquire so that’s really a non issue.
ALSO:
How much real life money do you spend on WoW Transmog? How much will you spend making costumes in ESO?
Subscriptions. It will effectively be the same in ESO since I won't be spending additional money outside of the subscription crowns.0 -
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I highly doubt this, though there is a suspicious lack of an answer from Gina or others so far on the subject. One costume which can be made to look anyway you want for free, yet you have to use the same costume on your other toons as well unless you buy another costume slot in the crown store seems really silly.....yet really, really Zo$
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✭✭my main gripe is that the system revolves around costumes that are SHARED across chars, meaning only 1 gets to abuse the free one or buy more so alts can use them. thats pretty shallowPLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
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