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why is Troll king set better than pirate skeleton set?

RealHeadhonchoe
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  • ccfeeling
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    PVP or PVE perspective?
  • Wing
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    depends, its more consistent, can effect other people, and stacks with other forms of major protection.

    so if you resto ult you give multiple people the troll king effect and major protection.

    and that does not require the individual getting hit.
    Edited by Wing on January 4, 2018 9:16AM
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    game got too disappointing.
  • RealHeadhonchoe
    pvp
    ccfeeling wrote: »
    PVP or PVE perspective?

  • RealHeadhonchoe
    but like what if I'm solo in pvp?
    Wing wrote: »
    depends, its more consistent, can effect other people, and stacks with other forms of major protection.

    so if you resto ult you give multiple people the troll king effect and major protection.

    and that does not require the individual getting hit.
  • ToRelax
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    Troll King is more reliable and doesn't come with a debuff attached to it. It's not better in all cases either.
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  • SirCritical
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    Trolls are bigger and heavier than pirates. Except troll pirates obviously.
  • RealHeadhonchoe
    but pirates get rum and booty
    Trolls are bigger and heavier than pirates. Except troll pirates obviously.

  • kypranb14_ESO
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    Also health recovery isn't reduce by 50% in PVP, which means you get the entire value stated. It gets higher if you have CP into the Healthy passive, are wearing heavy armor, are a nord/orc, etc.
  • Vaoh
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    Troll King provides a powerful heal and can be applied to allies. It is valueable especially for Stam. In PvE it’s a nice heal (though usually not necessary), but in PvP it is amazing.

    Pirate skeleton can probably be used effectively as a super tank in PvE which isn’t necessary in any content so far. However, the primary use for it is in PvP on Magicka Sorc, though since the nerf (can only proc when enemies hit your Health) it’s really not so good over something like 1x Domihaus/1x Ilambris.

    Edited by Vaoh on January 4, 2018 12:05PM
  • Qbiken
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    Troll king becomes really good if you have many other sources of healing going on as well (Certain races like Orc, Khajiit, Nord that has increased HP recovery in their passives, troll king becomes really strong. With some CP in HP recovery I´ve seen some build having 3,5.4k HP recovery when Troll king procs.

    Now add some external heals like:
    - Lingering HP pots
    - Rally/Forward Momentum
    - Vigor
    - High base HP recovery

    Just no name a few........And you´ll have some very decent healing capacities.

    Pirate Skeleton is good if you have ways to counter the defile debuff:
    - Minor/Major Mending
    - Minor/Major vitality


    Since I don´t know what class/role/setup you plan to use, I would say Troll King is rarely a bad choice :)
  • AAbrigo
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Troll king becomes really good if you have many other sources of healing going on as well (Certain races like Orc, Khajiit, Nord that has increased HP recovery in their passives, troll king becomes really strong. With some CP in HP recovery I´ve seen some build having 3,5.4k HP recovery when Troll king procs.

    Now add some external heals like:
    - Lingering HP pots
    - Rally/Forward Momentum
    - Vigor
    - High base HP recovery

    Just no name a few........And you´ll have some very decent healing capacities.

    Pirate Skeleton is good if you have ways to counter the defile debuff:
    - Minor/Major Mending
    - Minor/Major vitality


    Since I don´t know what class/role/setup you plan to use, I would say Troll King is rarely a bad choice :)

    As he said, but have to add the steed mundus which gives more health rec and there are foods too which boost health rec.
  • Trashs1
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Troll king becomes really good if you have many other sources of healing going on as well (Certain races like Orc, Khajiit, Nord that has increased HP recovery in their passives, troll king becomes really strong. With some CP in HP recovery I´ve seen some build having 3,5.4k HP recovery when Troll king procs.

    Now add some external heals like:
    - Lingering HP pots
    - Rally/Forward Momentum
    - Vigor
    - High base HP recovery

    Just no name a few........And you´ll have some very decent healing capacities.

    Pirate Skeleton is good if you have ways to counter the defile debuff:
    - Minor/Major Mending
    - Minor/Major vitality


    Since I don´t know what class/role/setup you plan to use, I would say Troll King is rarely a bad choice :)

    i have a non vamp stamplar and im not sure what monster set i should equip.
    currently went on bloodspawn and selene... since i have my glorious dispell skill i might try out trollking aswell
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  • Checkmath
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    Trollkings heal is a reliable source of healing, thats why. you can proc it very consistent and if you add some other sources of health recovery (pots give additional 20%, paired with trollking) this is immmense healing just by the monsterset. additionally the proc can affect also allies. probably the most powerful part of it, health regen isnt cut in PvP and there is actually no debuff against trollking, since reduced healing taken doesnt affect health regen.
  • kypranb14_ESO
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    Checkmath wrote: »
    Trollkings heal is a reliable source of healing, thats why. you can proc it very consistent and if you add some other sources of health recovery (pots give additional 20%, paired with trollking) this is immmense healing just by the monsterset. additionally the proc can affect also allies. probably the most powerful part of it, health regen isnt cut in PvP and there is actually no debuff against trollking, since reduced healing taken doesnt affect health regen.

    Minor and Major Defile actually do effect Health Recovery now. I think this change was made in Morrowind.

    However, you're right - It is not cut in half by the Battle Spirit passive in PVP.
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    Checkmath wrote: »
    Trollkings heal is a reliable source of healing, thats why. you can proc it very consistent and if you add some other sources of health recovery (pots give additional 20%, paired with trollking) this is immmense healing just by the monsterset. additionally the proc can affect also allies. probably the most powerful part of it, health regen isnt cut in PvP and there is actually no debuff against trollking, since reduced healing taken doesnt affect health regen.

    Minor and Major Defile actually do effect Health Recovery now. I think this change was made in Morrowind.

    However, you're right - It is not cut in half by the Battle Spirit passive in PVP.

    At the moment this doesn´t affect the troll king proc, not sure why but its´the case
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