the terrible flaw of the Combat & Character Mechanics

charley222
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in my opinion is just ridicule how nb are allow to gank free and zoning using spam cloak , sure i expect the exploiter or casual player will say LTP , but i look very good player having the same issue , the most common and useless reply is use potion , sure i will use invisibility potion the time i just get gank half of my health and the nb will use health potion lol and anyway the nb is on major expedition on cloak , yes is got few useless skill but most of these skill are magika and are useless for most build , this game have so much potential waste , because you guy can not balance anything , just the way you release Earthgore Set , this just show you learn anything of the last 4 year , is sad because eso is a nice looking game and a lot of people really make some awesome work , but Combat Mechanics really struggle in my opinion , i just read Monthly Combat Update – December 2017 , i get so discouraged this take you so much time to realise this but i guess is never to late , i sincerely hope you put your pride on the side and take advise from your player base to improve the combat better , because now 75 % easy of the combat feature are not use and always turn about the same stuff , anyway your the most welcome to reach me for any advice , peace
Edited by charley222 on December 29, 2017 12:12AM
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  • Vermintide
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    If you want mechanics that don't suck, play a real game. This is an MMO thank you kindly.
  • Zordrage
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    Vermintide wrote: »
    If you want mechanics that don't suck, play a real game. This is an MMO thank you kindly.

    there are mmos with good mechanics but they usually suck at something else...

    so what are you talking about ?
  • alephthiago
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    As a magicka dk i have no idea what you are talking about, very hard to be ganked these days by one single stam nightblade alone, the problem is when they gank in pairs....
    Walks-in-Shadowss AD Magblade
    *** kitty AD Stamblade
    Paarthurnax's Will AD Magicka DK
    agnar cracked skull EP Magicka DK (veteran dragonstar arena bot)
    Klogi Mugdul AD Stamina DK
    Savre Selranni AD Magicka Sorc (being polished)
    Avenar Lolhealing AD Magicka Templar (being polished)

  • Undefwun
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    What is with the constant cloak crying?

    There is no major expedition on any tool tip for cloak.

    NBs are in general squishier in a gank build. In general. Why are they supposed to just go head to head against tankier builds?

    Cloak has been nerfed a few times (used to remove negative effects for example) and it breaks if you sneeze in our direction. Lot of NBs dropped it and use most instead. Yes I can cross a fair distance cloaked but for combat it is not an I WIN button that ppl make it out to be?

    I find DK talons and chains annoying. Should I come crying every time?

    And those pesky Templar heals n purges. So rude....

    You get the point.

    If you lock a NB down or survive burst most of them are in trouble. Often we need stealth for timing and positioning (which is why I’m still horrible), can’t just roll in like other classes...

    Forums often make it feel like ppl want everyone to just not do anything and die and if they dare fight back, nerf anything that that person can’t do....

    Oh and NBs get ganked by other NBs too...
    Drank Sinatra Sr - PvP Magblade - DC
    Juggathot - PvP Mag Sorc - DC
    Jedi Mind Crits - PvP A-Hole Bowblade - DC
    Dollar Store Thor - PvP Stamplar - DC
    The Bone Sumpremacy - baby Stamcro - DC
    Wârden Freeman - PvP Stamden - DC (on hold)
    Lauryn Heal - PvE Magplar DPS - DC

    Lil Orc Chop - PvP Stam Sorc - EP
    Hamuel L Jackson - PvE DPS & PvP Stam DK - EP
    Chandler Bling - PvP Magden - EP

    Mahalia Lightborn - exiled crafting toon - cos you know, she's AD
  • Datthaw
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    If you're gonna cry about anything nb wise it needs to be animation canceling, that's how these guys can burst you down so well. They can animation cancel very well. With that said

    #nerfleap #nerfvampbane #nerfsweeps #nerffrag #nerffossilize #nerfwhips #nerfincap #nerfshields #buffwarden
  • davey1107
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    I play a NB and I gank a lot. Your post doesn’t provide any info about your build, so it’s hard to offer advice. If you’d like advice specific to your toon, let us know where you’re having an issue.

    In general, there are things you can do to protect yourself. One reason that NBs are powerful is that players are predictable and lazy. Every class has stealth, but it’s rare to see anyone stealth when just standing around. As a NB, I never just stand out in the open. I also always use the terrain...use barriers to disrupt line of sight between me and opponents. Attack from locations that are harder to gap close to. NB players tend to learn these techniques because it’s such an inherent part of the class...other classes often just sort of lumber along in the open.

    Another general tip is to maybe adjust your build away from the Meta, especially in the CP tree. People play differently, and what works for an expert theorycrafter might not work well for you. On my build, I had to adjust the red tree quite a bit away from the conventional wisdom. Allocating points to defend against the type of attacks I was losing to really helped. A lot of players just copy cookie cutter builds...which is fine...but they might not help you innthe areas you need help with. If you’re getting slaughtered by NBs all the time, consider the type of damage they’re doing. What can you adjust to mitigate some of it? Do you need to reduce some power in exchange for defense? Are there abikitiesmyou can bring in to assist?

    Those are general tips...they might give you ideas, or they might not. But NBs are pretty powerful, and it’s not entirely because of cloak. But cloak is a core skill, so it’s going to kill you from time to time, the same way other classes get core skills that can be tough to beat.
  • Apache_Kid
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    Absolutely sick of all the whining on here about cloak. There are so many hard, direct, counters to cloak. Literally like EVERY AOE in the game will pull you out of cloak, many DoT abilities will also pull you out of cloak. As for getting ganked from stealth, that has nothing to do with cloak and nightblades because every character in this game is allowed to go into stealth. Cloak hasn't been over-powered since they removed purge as an effect on it. OP, along with many others on this message board, suffer from poor situational awareness and reaction times. It's just that simple.
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