I appreciate that some only really want to run the game once and then have instant high-level additional characters including as you say to try other classes, but for those of us who like to run multiple characters in order to play the game fully with them, and don't have a "main plus alts", the game needs to be as character-specific as possible. For us, having everything account-wide would be the very opposite of alt-friendly.

Both approaches are equally valid ways of playing multiple characters, and the present achievement and other account-wide aspects such as shared bank and mail, account-wide dye unlocks and mementos, not to mention champion points, represent a fair compromise. The balance shouldn't be tilted any further in either direction.

Make horse training account based, and in exchange make my character have to store their own stuff in their own bank / mailbox.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

This again?

It would be troublesome in many ways to have account-wide achievements. I mean, even personal preference aside, how would we check which character had collected what skyshards, explored which location, learned what motiv, et cetera; if evrerything was account wide?

Dyes are already account wide anyhow.

Titles should never be account wide, since quite a few of them are very much character-dependent (and really, would it make sense for a new alt right out of coldharbour to flaunt endgame achievement titles?)

As for those who just want to try an alt... what does it matter? They do not -need- to chase any of the achievements after all... if the main has unlocked a dye, everyone can use it, if they want a special title for fluff reasons, they just need to chase that one achivement, and everything else is completely optional anyhow.

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That having been said...
What -would- be neat to have was an "account overview page" on the character seelction screen that shows us which of our characters had done what achievement and when. And possibly unlock more rewards through multiple completions... like "do the mainstory with each class" or "reach that alliance war rank for each faction" or "take a character of every race to level 50"...

Totally agree.

Hell yes!

>Account wide achievements
>Character bound titles

Account wide achievements in every other mmo I’ve played allowed for you to track the achievement progress on Alts. It shouldn’t negatively affect people who enjoy getting tons of achieves over and over again or [Level 10 Hero] on their bank mules.

Many grinds are NOT alt friendly like mages guild, and alliance rank. I'm constantly debating wether I should enjoy Cyrodiil with an alt or stick to my Main for a 0,5% advancement on my rank.

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

I'm aware of the dyes. I'm saying it would be nice for those points we get to actually amount to something.

Man, sure are some fun killers in here.

There sure are, like the guy who wants to take the fun out of doing stuff with alts because they'll already be credited with it from another character.

I know it's a blast getting lvl 20 hero on each alt.

Seriously, for most achievements it's a one and done kind of deal. Do you really need to prove that you can get zone completion on your templar AND your sorc? I really don't see the appeal.

And so many of you are missing the purpose of this thread. We have these achievement points just sitting there amounting to little more than a pissing contest. Give us SOMETHING to buy with them.

Some of us don't need to prove anything. We just like to play the game with each character rather than take a shortcut after the first one.

The ONLY thing I have an issue with achievement wise is the horse training. Please ZOS, allow us to at least have half the stats when we have achieved full horse training stats (all three at 60) on at least one character.

Pleaseeeeee!!

idk wrote: »

I understand some make more characters than they have time for, but just get the achievements on your main. Makes it very simple.

Speak for yourself on time, I wasn't aware there was any maximum time allowance for characters.

I play for fun, not simplicity - although the yearning for simplicity does explain a lot about modern gaming trends.

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

For those of us who are completionists but also like to try new classes. I find myself avoiding my alts because I want to keep working on my achievements. Please let us share all achievements between all characters. And you know, adding some rewards wouldn't kill you either. Like in GW2, just something minor like cosmetic or a title.

Yes Totally agree with you!
I don't understand why ESO players can't understand this aspect. This is not against them it is good to them too.
This topic was many times on the forum. I think it is a totally dead horse, not just because of that players, but ZOS did some wrong directions too.

I have the same feeling many times, almost every week.
They don't understand, they don't want understand. They just hate any account-wide idea / solution.

My last bad feeling about it.
- Clockwork City achievements: Counting the Crows and Brass Fortess Helper
Do 30 daily quests. This character based solution mean, I must log in to my main and do the quest with that character, but if this 2 achievement would be account wide, then when I explored my 1. charadter Clockwork city, then I can start with 2. character and do that achievements during exploration, until I finish with my all character this 2 achievement would be finished.
Now, I only do with my main character, I won't do with any other character.

But there are tons of other achievements like that.

Account wide solutions does not mean
- u can skip leveling with your alt character
- u can skip leveling skill trees
- u can skip collecting skyshards

Just only mean, u can choose which character to log on next day.

I have no motivation, to do 'no death' with all character in dungeons in trials, or any other achievemenets etc.. I don't care. I don't think all players who love character based solutions do all achievemenets with all 14 characters. They don't care, but they care account-wide players would not be good.

But I care, my main is a dps and I have to play with it in every circumstance (because of it has the most achievements).
If in a trial need a healer now I can't switch because of achievements
If in AvAvA need a healer now I can't switch because of achievements

But sometimes I switch and hurray most hardest achievements have with my alt healer but not with my main dps hurray

If ZOS introduce account-wide achievements then they need some drastic changes. Just 2 example:
- For example dungeon achievements give you undaunted skill line exp. For example solution: normal and veteran dungeon give you much more skill line exp, and random normal and veteran dailies give u lots of skill line exp too.

- Fox example skyshards, now u can check your skyshards with achievements, bad solution. Somewhere I read a very good solution. First time u collected a skyshard, your next character see where is the skyshard (console players without skyshard addon). That would be an option, like u can switch on/off quest tracker etc now.
This does not mean u can skip collecting skyshards but u see where are.
Otherwise Urich's Skill Point Finder addon is awesome. ZOS can implement it, and you dont need check achievements. Just press K (Skill window) there would be a tab page or a button to show a list something like that in that addon, and hurray skyshards achievements would we account-wide.

IMO this game is huge, many thing to do, not necessary built in breaks/walls to stop u. ZOS need introduce more and more account-wide solutions to help players to start new alts, and play here not with other games.

If ZOS want changes, they can do it, but the problem they don't want and they implement some very wrong solution, for example just two of them.

1) Character based recipes. U need learn recipes with all character. Honestly what's the point of this? Why? Lore breaking? Not RPG friendly? That is not true. A usable solution a recipe book, that all of your characters can use, If characters are talented (provisioning skill tree + enough skill points). GW2 made the same mistake with it, but they were bold enough and restructured

2) Character based trait research. What? Omg! Yes they did it. Hm and they introduce new feature to it, better chance to get sealed books (legendary quest books). Really? Is that the good way? No I don't think. I have 8 character with fully researched, but If someday ZOS indtroduce a better solution I won't cry about the spent time to research or give back a worse solutions

Neither game is perfect if it would be then you would never stop it and look for better game. We must accept it there will never be any kind of changes in this game.

Maybe a new game with ESO atmosphere and with GW2 account-wide solutions that would be enough to me to leave and try that game, until we must accept everything that ZOS give us because atmosphere stronger than account-wide solutions

If this ever happens I will be sure to make a new alt and place the title "Grand Overlord" on it. It will have the 5-star icon. Additionally, I will expect 50 skill points that's normally earned in the alliance war to be added to the baby alt. My level 3 will be OP.

(I'm highlighting one issue with account wide achievements.)

The only achievements I wish were account wide so far is the monster trophies or at least let me pick what character I want the trophy on. I had several drop pretty quickly on alts and spent months farming on my main I have alot of hours invested in running the same circle killing the same enemy for a trophy that has already dropped on an alt as of now the only one I'm missing is a crypt jar and it would be nice to farm that while I'm trying to level up some skills on an alt vs running the same circle over and over for little exp on my main that has every skill line maxed

No, thanks. The system is fine the way it is. Every character has and need to have his peculiar history. I can't see the meaning of having the achievement "Grand Overlord" on a character who has never been in Cyrodiil, or "Skyshards hunter" on someone who has never been outside Auridon.

And all the useful things - e.g. CPs, houses, mounts, money, writ vouchers, AP, armors and weapons etc - are ALREADY account shared.