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Sorc execute
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Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »paallterrain148 wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Wasn't a single nerf thread dedicated to this skill before Battlegrounds came out with its scoring mechanism.
The harsh truth is we're far more likely to see the skill nerfed then BGs scoring changed. Every sorc should of been pushing for this as soon as they saw just how unbalanced it was, especially in death match. Although I'm not sure what better scoring system could be implemented while still individually assessing players.
Wait. I don't quite understand. Did you just say something like "every sorc should demand a nerf for their execute because the BG scoring system is flawed and favours them?"
If so, does this also include sorcs that haven't bought Morrowind?
Or do you mean "every sorc should be pushing for a better scoring system"?
Then just let kills go to the one with the most damage done on the opponent and assists to those with lower damage dealt.
New scoring system, obviously not a nerf to the skill.
How would you time it? Someone extremely tanky that takes a *** ton of damage over the course of 20-30 seconds from player A who can't complete the burst, and then gets a player B NB fear/incap/suprise combo and dies, yet player A who couldn't seal the deal for 20 seconds gets the kill? That just makes bombing/AOE more desirable even if you aren't executing anyone. Unless I'm missing something?
I seriously don't have an answer. Unless you didn't individually score players and just scored teams equally for leaderboard score?1 -
GrigorijMalahevich✭✭✭✭✭A good mag sorc should practically never die. #1 they have 3 shields... hardened ward, harness magicka, healing ward... #2 they have the best mobility in the game... streak and major expedition... #3 infinite sustain with dark conversion... seriously though I've been seeing mag sorc that just spam execute with mages wrath while others attack and essentially It means any class being attacked by a sorc has only 75% of their actual health b3cause when you hit 25% wrath instantly kills you.
You are obviously better aware of magsorc than anyone else on the forums! Much knowledge, such experience, just incredible!
Sorc execute works from 20%, is blockable, is blocked by shimmering shield, but you obviously just made a small typo.
Not all magsorcs play with harness as I agree that 3shield stack mechanic is stupidPC/EU 800 CP.
PvP MagSorc.Pedro Gonzales - Mag Sorc EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/CB6j6
Valera Progib - Stam Sorc DC vMA Flawless Conqueror clear https://i.imgur.com/eYgpXG2.png
Valera Pozhar - Mag DK EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/jrsuK
Valera Podlechi - Mag Templar AD vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/N0BYq0 -
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✭✭✭Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »Valera Progib wrote: »Yes, strongest class confirmed, #nerfsorc
The only place where magsorc is decent - zerg surfing and kill stealing... The only place where sorc execute is used.
P.S. gitgud.
I'm not about nerf sorcs but I feel his pain tbh. But a good sorc will time the execute with their burst so it goes off the second you go under 20%
My personal opinion. For them to make sorcs not *** again. Either return frags to how they were or increase ward duration.
Well it´s really easy to avoid going under 20% from a sorc burst though - that´s coincidentally the reason why most good players don´t feel threatened by sorcs unless outnumbered.
Not seen many people have an issue with sorcs actual burst, I'd even say it needs a bit of a buff. OK damage, but single target, telegraphed and easily countered.Wrath is a fine and unique ability.
The only issue I really see is shield, shield, shield. Which is annoying as a class with low instant burst, because then they can just streak away and beat on you from a distance. Nerf shield, buff mobility+damage.Edited by ak_pvp on December 23, 2017 1:15PMMagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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GrigorijMalahevich✭✭✭✭✭Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »Valera Progib wrote: »Yes, strongest class confirmed, #nerfsorc
The only place where magsorc is decent - zerg surfing and kill stealing... The only place where sorc execute is used.
P.S. gitgud.
I'm not about nerf sorcs but I feel his pain tbh. But a good sorc will time the execute with their burst so it goes off the second you go under 20%
My personal opinion. For them to make sorcs not *** again. Either return frags to how they were or increase ward duration.
Well it´s really easy to avoid going under 20% from a sorc burst though - that´s coincidentally the reason why most good players don´t feel threatened by sorcs unless outnumbered.
Not seen many people have an issue with sorcs actual burst, I'd even say it needs a bit of a buff. OK damage, but single target, telegraphed and easily countered.Wrath is a fine and unique ability.
The only issue I really see is shield, shield, shield. Which is annoying as a class with low instant burst, because then they can just streak away and beat on you from a distance. Nerf shield, buff mobility+damage.
Agree!
Yes, remove shieldstack of class shield + light armor shield... make them overwrite each other.
Even as a magsorc I find it annoying. Most of the time I just ignore people that shieldstack - just waste of time. Riposte and shield stack is too strong against any magicka build. Then you meet someone like _nonameandshame_ who tops his riposte with Pirate and goes from annoying to a completely new level.
Can’t comment about damage, as I feel that sorc has enough damage. Telegraphed - yes, low - no.
Though, without shieldstack it will be very hard to win duel against magDK, but this game is not balanced around duels, so...
PC/EU 800 CP.
PvP MagSorc.Pedro Gonzales - Mag Sorc EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/CB6j6
Valera Progib - Stam Sorc DC vMA Flawless Conqueror clear https://i.imgur.com/eYgpXG2.png
Valera Pozhar - Mag DK EP vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/jrsuK
Valera Podlechi - Mag Templar AD vMA Flawless Conqueror clear http://imgur.com/a/N0BYq0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Valera Progib wrote: »Ohhgrizyyy wrote: »Valera Progib wrote: »Yes, strongest class confirmed, #nerfsorc
The only place where magsorc is decent - zerg surfing and kill stealing... The only place where sorc execute is used.
P.S. gitgud.
I'm not about nerf sorcs but I feel his pain tbh. But a good sorc will time the execute with their burst so it goes off the second you go under 20%
My personal opinion. For them to make sorcs not *** again. Either return frags to how they were or increase ward duration.
Well it´s really easy to avoid going under 20% from a sorc burst though - that´s coincidentally the reason why most good players don´t feel threatened by sorcs unless outnumbered.
Not seen many people have an issue with sorcs actual burst, I'd even say it needs a bit of a buff. OK damage, but single target, telegraphed and easily countered.Wrath is a fine and unique ability.
The only issue I really see is shield, shield, shield. Which is annoying as a class with low instant burst, because then they can just streak away and beat on you from a distance. Nerf shield, buff mobility+damage.
Agree!
Yes, remove shieldstack of class shield + light armor shield... make them overwrite each other.
Even as a magsorc I find it annoying. Most of the time I just ignore people that shieldstack - just waste of time. Riposte and shield stack is too strong against any magicka build. Then you meet someone like _nonameandshame_ who tops his riposte with Pirate and goes from annoying to a completely new level.
Can’t comment about damage, as I feel that sorc has enough damage. Telegraphed - yes, low - no.
Though, without shieldstack it will be very hard to win duel against magDK, but this game is not balanced around duels, so...
Riposte + Pirate will only kill the squishy builds. Against most builds it's not gonna do jack but be annoying.
Also amazed someone found a way to reduce the effectiveness of Riposte lmao. 15%? More like 6% in that set up (after CPs)0
