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Simple question about morphs

billp_ESO
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Let's say I am a magicka toon, my damage is based on max magicka. What if I morph a magic ability to a stamina one? Is the dmg now based on stamina?

And the opposite. If I'm stamina based, what happens if I morph a magicka ability to stamina? It's based off of stamina now and therefore a lot more powerful?
  • WrathOfInnos
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    Yes you are correct.
  • Magdalina
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    The same rule applies to all the skills, morphed or unmorphed. Magicka costing skills scale with max magicka, spelldamade, etc(with exception of shields - only max magicka, and sorc pets - no spelldamage scaling), stamina costing skills scale with max stamina, weapondamage, etc. Obviously this doesn't refer to utility skills such as cc etc.

    So basically, think before making the morph choice - if you're a magicka build, you'll want the magicka morph. If you're a stamina build, you'll want the stamina morph. If there's no stamina morph, you probably don't want to use this skill as a stam build(unless for utility).
  • altemriel
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    yes, magicka morph is based on magicka, stamina morph on stamina

    then it depends, if you want to play a magicka character or stamina character, it is not so advisable to split your attribute points into multiple (stam and mag and health), but put it either all into magicka or all into stamina - and depending on that, you choose either magicka morphs or stamina morphs

  • Nestor
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    billp_ESO wrote: »

    And the opposite. If I'm stamina based, what happens if I morph a magicka ability to stamina? It's based off of stamina now and

    Depends. Typically, if your Magic Character, all or most of your attribute points are in Magic. Making a skill scale from Stamina by choosing that morph makes the skill weaker than if you chose the Magic Morph



    Edited by Nestor on December 18, 2017 10:22PM
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  • ol_BANK_lo
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    billp_ESO wrote: »
    Let's say I am a magicka toon, my damage is based on max magicka. What if I morph a magic ability to a stamina one? Is the dmg now based on stamina?

    And the opposite. If I'm stamina based, what happens if I morph a magicka ability to stamina? It's based off of stamina now and therefore a lot more powerful?

    In general, yes. There are likely some exceptions where an ability is a general buff or has a flat value. But, generally speaking, you always want to take the morph that matches the type of character you are.

    Do you have an example?
  • billp_ESO
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    One example is the Warden cliff racer skill. It starts out as magicka, and morphs to a stamina design in one morph, stays magicka in the other morph. As a tank, stamina based, I'd want the stamina morph, and if it's a mag Warden, pick the magicka morph.
  • PlagueSD
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    altemriel wrote: »
    it is not so advisable to split your attribute points into multiple (stam and mag and health), but put it either all into magicka or all into stamina

    Unless you're playing a DK tank. Then you can split your mag and stam points to use 2 resource pools for fighting. (SnB front bar, Frost staff back bar).

    When you are low on Stam, swap to back bar and block with magica while your stam regens. When you're out of magica, swap to front bar to use stam. (rinse/repeat).
  • billp_ESO
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    What about crit chances? If I morph a magic ability to a stamina ability, does the spell crit % still apply?

    Assassin's blade is a magicka based NB skill. It's crit chance is spell crit. What if I morph it to Killer's blade, a stamina ability. Does it still use spell crit?
  • Magdalina
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    billp_ESO wrote: »
    What about crit chances? If I morph a magic ability to a stamina ability, does the spell crit % still apply?

    Assassin's blade is a magicka based NB skill. It's crit chance is spell crit. What if I morph it to Killer's blade, a stamina ability. Does it still use spell crit?

    Full list applies. All magicka costing abilities(except shields and sorc pets, again), scale with max magicka, spell damage, spell crit and spell penetration. All stamina costing abilities scale with max stamina, weapon damage, weapon crit and physical penetration. It doesn't matter whether it's morphed or not, only thing that matters is what resource it costs to use.
  • billp_ESO
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    Magdalina wrote: »
    billp_ESO wrote: »
    What about crit chances? If I morph a magic ability to a stamina ability, does the spell crit % still apply?

    Assassin's blade is a magicka based NB skill. It's crit chance is spell crit. What if I morph it to Killer's blade, a stamina ability. Does it still use spell crit?

    Full list applies. All magicka costing abilities(except shields and sorc pets, again), scale with max magicka, spell damage, spell crit and spell penetration. All stamina costing abilities scale with max stamina, weapon damage, weapon crit and physical penetration. It doesn't matter whether it's morphed or not, only thing that matters is what resource it costs to use.

    Great, thanks! I started a new thread asking more general questions about damage type, crit, etc. But this answers my main question.
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