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Weaving with melee magblade
Knootewoot
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Does it work for you? With all the mobility in the game I find it hard to weave LA's with concealed weapon. Even hitting the concealed weapon takes practice because enemies always move out of range. Yesterday was a good day for me and a lot I wanted worked with melee magblade. But still, weaving the attacks was hard and I still have sore fingers from it. I hardly did any magical arrows because I could not get 4 LA's off.
It works better with ranged (destroy) but then, weaving with swallow soul I can only do medium attack instead of light.
It works better with ranged (destroy) but then, weaving with swallow soul I can only do medium attack instead of light.
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"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
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Koolio✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »Does it work for you? With all the mobility in the game I find it hard to weave LA's with concealed weapon. Even hitting the concealed weapon takes practice because enemies always move out of range. Yesterday was a good day for me and a lot I wanted worked with melee magblade. But still, weaving the attacks was hard and I still have sore fingers from it. I hardly did any magical arrows because I could not get 4 LA's off.
It works better with ranged (destroy) but then, weaving with swallow soul I can only do medium attack instead of light.
DW? Console?
As a long time DW user for MNB I can tell you right now getting merciless to proc mid combat is extremely difficult. I quit trying. I also back bar mine. Occasionally I'll hear the proc and hit someone but not often enough to rely on it.
Are you having trouble hitting with light and heavy in general?
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Rehdaun✭✭✭✭✭Weaving with some nightblade skills are quite clunky. As mentioned by the OP, swallow soul is one. You kind of have to put a hitch in your slight hitch in your rotation in order to get consistent light attack. So, instead of LA Skill LA Skill, you need to do LA Skill <wait> LA Skill.3
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Knootewoot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »Does it work for you? With all the mobility in the game I find it hard to weave LA's with concealed weapon. Even hitting the concealed weapon takes practice because enemies always move out of range. Yesterday was a good day for me and a lot I wanted worked with melee magblade. But still, weaving the attacks was hard and I still have sore fingers from it. I hardly did any magical arrows because I could not get 4 LA's off.
It works better with ranged (destroy) but then, weaving with swallow soul I can only do medium attack instead of light.
DW? Console?
As a long time DW user for MNB I can tell you right now getting merciless to proc mid combat is extremely difficult. I quit trying. I also back bar mine. Occasionally I'll hear the proc and hit someone but not often enough to rely on it.
Are you having trouble hitting with light and heavy in general?
Dual wield yes on PC. Yeah i have trouble hitting people in general with light and heavy attack haha
I am currently practicing a lot in a guildies house on target skellies. I just want to get better at it.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
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✭Weaving with inferno staff of the one that is bugged the most. I have never had a problem with concealed. Inferno staff you can't animation cancel your light attack with a skill, you almost need to one Mississippi between light attack and strife. This has been a problem for a while. There is another thread where this has another ready been discussed1 -
Dreth✭✭✭Weaving inferno staff sucks. Weaving swallow soul sucks. I either weave swallow and resto LA or weave inferno with force pulse, but never both together.
Sometimes I wonder if ZOS does their testing in the office where their ping is ~1 ms and just slaps an approval on it before thinking about everyone else playing at ~100-150 ms.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Are you guys block canceling the previous skill?PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo
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✭✭Yes, but I run a 2H sword.
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✭✭Knootewoot wrote: »Knootewoot wrote: »Does it work for you? With all the mobility in the game I find it hard to weave LA's with concealed weapon. Even hitting the concealed weapon takes practice because enemies always move out of range. Yesterday was a good day for me and a lot I wanted worked with melee magblade. But still, weaving the attacks was hard and I still have sore fingers from it. I hardly did any magical arrows because I could not get 4 LA's off.
It works better with ranged (destroy) but then, weaving with swallow soul I can only do medium attack instead of light.
DW? Console?
As a long time DW user for MNB I can tell you right now getting merciless to proc mid combat is extremely difficult. I quit trying. I also back bar mine. Occasionally I'll hear the proc and hit someone but not often enough to rely on it.
Are you having trouble hitting with light and heavy in general?
Dual wield yes on PC. Yeah i have trouble hitting people in general with light and heavy attack haha
I am currently practicing a lot in a guildies house on target skellies. I just want to get better at it.
Targeting has a lot of issues in general. One thing to take note is the difference in range from PVE to PVP.
You can stand about 5 meters away from a target dummy and still hit. In pvp you get about 2 meters. I'm on console so I never actually let go of heavy attack.
If you light attack someone with DW it will snare them. I normally move my cursor across their chest when I'm mid swing. Light attacks are a lot harder to land especially when in the heat of a fight.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Idk. Since they buffed the fire staff for single target damage I don't see as much benefit b merit for DW. Especially since light attacks shoild be stronger on a staff which is even more significant with the buffs made to light attacks.0 -
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✭✭Idk. Since they buffed the fire staff for single target damage I don't see as much benefit b merit for DW. Especially since light attacks shoild be stronger on a staff which is even more significant with the buffs made to light attacks.
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Good bit of the toolskit is melee based
Not the normal so can be difficult to fight
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Kode✭✭✭I really dislike the weaving mechanics in this game. Try slowing down your attacks a bit.Kode Darkstar, Aldmeri Dominion0 -
RighteousBacon✭✭✭✭If you're concerned with getting off the assassin's will bow you really have to make use of the buffs uptime and kite your opponents with ranged attacks. I use a resto on my back bar so I just weave resto light attacks with cripple or entropy. Having a spell damage enchant on my resto also helps we ensure that I'll have the damage I need when i finally jump in and use melee. You just have to understand that magblade has to set up their burst a lot more than stamblade.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Idk. Since they buffed the fire staff for single target damage I don't see as much benefit b merit for DW. Especially since light attacks shoild be stronger on a staff which is even more significant with the buffs made to light attacks.
2 5pc sets with monster
2 glyphs with status effects
Fighting Against Wings
Good bit of the toolskit is melee based
Not the normal so can be difficult to fight
Melee would have nothing to do with my comment you replied to, staves work just fine in melee distance last time I checked.
The question is more about does one get more from the extra gear slot going DW or from the extra damage from weaving in light attacks with a staff should provide.
They very significant percentage of total damage with the current game design and the thread was created.0 -
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✭Are you guys block canceling the previous skill?
It's not the animation cancel of soul swallow that's the problem it's that on every other class you can cancel your light attack animation with a skill. Not the case with soul swallow. It's linked to some changes they did a while back to the animation of the skill it's self
When I'm on my magdk (for pve) the weave with flame staffs is so fluid when I start dropping some whips. I don't even have to think about it. Magnb not so much, I have to think about my cast time. If I'm in a duel and getting amped up sometimes it's hard to remember this.Edited by Datthaw on December 12, 2017 12:12PM0 -
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✭✭✭Swallow Soul has the same animation as Entropy. The timing is a bit different from other skills like Force Pulse, but it is absolutely doable.
I can weave that skill with a destro staff easily. Now, for melee I can't say, haven't played melee magNB in ages.0 -
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Melee feels harder in practice. I chalk it up to the movement in melee pvp, keeping on target to actually land the LA.Swallow Soul has the same animation as Entropy. The timing is a bit different from other skills like Force Pulse, but it is absolutely doable.
I can weave that skill with a destro staff easily. Now, for melee I can't say, haven't played melee magNB in ages.
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