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Would you like a Guild trade bank for Armor and weapon sets?

giinoz2011rwb17_ESO
A New bank with 1000 slots for Armor, Weapons, Jewellery.
If you don't want to sell or decon items but rather allow them to be used or tried by other guild members.

Any guild member can place an item or item set (NO MATS.) into the trade bank another guild member may take an item out for a cost of 200g per item or a value set by GM or officers, with other abilities or functions below.

The gold goes into the guild bank for use by the guild for trader etc.

Edit 12/12/2017
Does your guild offer raffles or Auctions for equipment Armour, Weapons, jewellery?
This concept was considered but not gone into detail. My bad for not going further into detail. So I'll go further into the concept.

Any that do this this concept should have the ability to select for Auction items, sets, Raffle, Give aways to members wanting to up their crafting abilities selectable for whatever the guild
GM or officers need at the time or by requests from members for Weapons, armour, jewellery (As jewellery crafting may never come we have to rely on random drops or in some areas buy
jewellery.)

Giving the GM and officers time to do other things should they so desire.
I do not know of any GM in any guild either ones I'm in or ones I have been lucky to chat with in game that do not work tirelessly for their guilds and members.
So to assist them so they can use their valuable time for more things I thought would be of benefit to all and would be welcome to the officers and GM's.

As some GM's and Officers have little time to play the game devoting huge amounts of in game time to the running of their guilds.

I for one and a lot of other guild members whatever your guild is appreciate their massive efforts to make their guilds great for us all to enjoy.
I doubt I could ever come close to showing how much they are all valued ingame, for their support, assistance, advice, and running their guilds

I was thinking of the GM's and officers to make their running the guild a little less time consuming and having items in one area searchable by lvl set, magic, stam, health, etc
including a stat comparison between 4 items. With the comparison area even if a guild does not have the item it could have a different colour or duller and have every item set
in game so you could then know what you want to add to your toons builds roll or enquire if anyone has the item or knows where to find it.

I will attempt to close or delete this poll on or around Jan 10th if the no vote is more than the yes ones.

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Also not necessarily with this concept an armour or weapons board that members can list items they would like crafted by a crafter in the guild if they can not make it themselves.
As the member types their order in the game suggests the item if it's craftable or a dropped set , have drop down menus for style, trait etc.

The crafter makes all the items then has the ability to craft or place all the items into a coffer or container to send to the guild member requesting the set.
Having options for the member making the request to either supply mats or if the crafter has to supply them and either a set price or an offer/counter offer for crafting and for mats used or supplied.
The guild crafter selects the job once price is agreed to so other crafters will not double or triple etc up on the same job.
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End edit 12/12/2017

EDIT 11/12/2017 or US format 12/11/2017.
The poll should be for PC ONLY as it appears the XBOX from a post has a guild bank with 500+ slots thus ZOS if this is true WHY?
If you do not understand this poll please refer it to your GM or guild Officers.

Thank you all for voting and comments.
Your comments are greatly appreciated and show why some are not getting the basis for the concept.
I hope my replies shed light further on the concept of the Trade Bank.
Edited by giinoz2011rwb17_ESO on December 12, 2017 2:20PM

Would you like a Guild trade bank for Armor and weapon sets? 29 votes

Yes I would like a Guild Trade Bank.
17%
zariagiinoz2011rwb17_ESOInarreTasearDeep_01 5 votes
Yes I would like a Guild Trade Bank but would like a Poll by ZOS and commitment to implement it on reaching target amount.
6%
rootimusIsangrim 2 votes
NO I do not want a Guild Trade Bank.
75%
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  • jaschacasadiob16_ESO
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    So if I put a Spinner or Necropotence lightning staff with critical or spell penetration in the bank, you can get it for 200G? Not to mention jewelry.
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  • Skullstachio
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    NO I do not want a Guild Trade Bank.
    The Reason for it is because if you are already part of a guild and your current rank in that guild permits you access to withdrawing and depositing items in the guild bank, it has at least 500+ space to put items in and out and seeing as how we already have a system like that, we do not need a guild trade bank with a 1000 slots for armor, weaponry and jewellery because what you are implying is something that already exists in my honest opinion.
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  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    Im of the personal opinion that the Guild Bank should grow substantially with the increase of members. The idea that your individual character could have more slots of inventory on your person and in your personal bank than the Guild Bank seems odd to me. I personally think the Guild Banks should increase by 500 for every 100 members.

    The end result should be upwards of 3,000 slots for the Guild itself. And I would love to see it broken down into tabs so that the Guild Leadership can better manage it in general.
    Edited by Korah_Eaglecry on December 8, 2017 12:48AM
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  • VaranisArano
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    Can't we already do this in our Guild Banks if the Guild decides they want to use their bank for those purposes?

    My guild will let players ask the officers if they want to buy something (market value) out of the guild bank. My PVP guild keeps gear on hand to give to players who are working towards good PVP gear sets for the guild's raid.

    Oh, and you can simply type in Guild chat "Anyone want [item] free?" and see if someone wants it. Maybe they want to wear it, maybe they want it for an alt, maybe they want it for deconstruction, but if you hate to trash gear that you won't use, its pretty easy to ask. And if no one wants it, well, it was going to sit unused in the guild bank anyway. Let's be honest, 75%+ of what would end up in the bank is going to be **** anyway.
  • Kharret
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    NO I do not want a Guild Trade Bank.
    This one can't see any economic or social reasons for such a special feature.

    If you want to sell - sell through guild store
    if you want to share - share for free through guild bank

    No one needs this trash that you can't sell, especially for 200 gp
  • giinoz2011rwb17_ESO
    Yes I would like a Guild Trade Bank.
    Another useful ability would be to debind items to place into Guild trade bank however the cost to do this would be up to ZOS.
    I would suggest 2k per item and gold goes to ZOS.

    That way items some players can not find can be available to assist with their sets, and allow them to trial sets they may not find in game.
  • Danksta
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    I feel like I'm missing something here.... seems very much like the guild bank we already have.
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    Danksta wrote: »
    I feel like I'm missing something here.... seems very much like the guild bank we already have.

    It is, except its specifically for you to dump all your junk gear so the Guildmaster won't send you a PM going "Please don't dump useless gear in the guild bank anymore, we need those slots for the auction items."

    If you want to give away gear, ask in guild chat.
  • giinoz2011rwb17_ESO
    Yes I would like a Guild Trade Bank.
    So if I put a Spinner or Necropotence lightning staff with critical or spell penetration in the bank, you can get it for 200G? Not to mention jewelry.

    Each item costs 200g to get out. The trade bank is only available to guild members, totally separate from normal guild bank.
    Most of the guilds I'm in use the Guild bank for items to raise funds for the trader.

    This bank is to assist guild members and guild.
    So if say you had the mentioned items and wanted to fill your 5 item requirement should they be available in the trade bank
    you don't have to wait for a random drop and can get your set.

    Then you could discard any unneeded (Edit. Part of a) SET items that could assist another guild member.

    EDIT..
    Yes a full set may well be worth 100k depending on the type and game market prices and other guild members could access a full set well below the normal price. However it was a suggested price of 200g it should be allowed to be set by the GM.

    Another spin off to this could also have it have guild officer or GM toggles to allow auctions/ purchases/ raffles to be run for the items without intervention by officers or GM freeing up their valuable time for other important things.
    Edited by giinoz2011rwb17_ESO on December 11, 2017 11:52AM
  • giinoz2011rwb17_ESO
    Yes I would like a Guild Trade Bank.
    Danksta wrote: »
    I feel like I'm missing something here.... seems very much like the guild bank we already have.

    It is, except its specifically for you to dump all your junk gear so the Guildmaster won't send you a PM going "Please don't dump useless gear in the guild bank anymore, we need those slots for the auction items."

    If you want to give away gear, ask in guild chat.

    No only sets, so crap items that have no worth as being a 3 to 5 part set can not be placed into trade bank.
    Thus items not for Auction are placed in this bank the original Guild bank remains for Auctions or whatever needs
    deemed by the GM.

    Some guilds I am in I have seen requests for items in the Guild bank, this way it frees needless requests for Armour or weapon etc set that anyone can use freeing up the guild bank, offices and GM's time not worrying about requests from people that may not be around when a possible item auction is on. The valuable Guild bank slots can then be better used for more important items.

    Keeping it simple to gauge the basic principal however the GM should have the ability to specify minimum item
    requirements like level of equipment and quality eg Purple or gold items that can be placed into guild trade bank.

    Edit. BTW all my toons are lvl 50 craft skill so I decon crap for mats, either to use or sell.
    My other pet peev is a game calling using a long line of games the "Elder Scrolls" and remove the jewellery crafting ability possibly never to exist in this game
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    So you can not make nor improve them but have to hope that you may get what you want via a random drop and most jewellery I send to friends that have been out of game for ages or usually destroy jewellery, as most is rubbish.
    Edited by giinoz2011rwb17_ESO on December 11, 2017 5:37AM
  • giinoz2011rwb17_ESO
    Yes I would like a Guild Trade Bank.
    Im of the personal opinion that the Guild Bank should grow substantially with the increase of members. The idea that your individual character could have more slots of inventory on your person and in your personal bank than the Guild Bank seems odd to me. I personally think the Guild Banks should increase by 500 for every 100 members.

    The end result should be upwards of 3,000 slots for the Guild itself. And I would love to see it broken down into tabs so that the Guild Leadership can better manage it in general.

    Yes I made a suggestion along similar lines two years ago.
    Some guilds use the guild bank for all to use, some use items for raffles etc for things to raise funds for trader or whatever the guild needs.

    This idea was to free up requests for items thus giving these wonderful people some time to hopefully play the game
    by separating these types of items, have its own permissions for whom can access it, or what can be placed in it set by the GM or officers and not having to worry about individual requests.

    Some guilds I am or have been in that allowed members to access the guild bank unfortunately had some rogue members that sole vast amounts of valuable items from the guild bank, this idea allows access only to these items to any one with the permissions to access it so valuable guild bank items can not be stolen.

    All guilds I am in have brilliant officers and GM's that work hard for the benefit of all members if any do not follow guild rules are replaced.
  • giinoz2011rwb17_ESO
    Yes I would like a Guild Trade Bank.
    Alpha-Lupi wrote: »
    The Reason for it is because if you are already part of a guild and your current rank in that guild permits you access to withdrawing and depositing items in the guild bank, it has at least 500+ space to put items in and out and seeing as how we already have a system like that, we do not need a guild trade bank with a 1000 slots for armor, weaponry and jewellery because what you are implying is something that already exists in my honest opinion.

    Guild bank for PC only has 500 slots so 500+ would be welcome.

    A better solution would be for the game to increase the guild banks slot items per 100 players by 500 or allow the guild to buy 500 slots for the guild bank for say half to 1 million gold up to a max of 5000 slots. (And obviously a better way to manage items.) and also allow more members with the increased capacity as well.

    We DO NOT HAVE A SYSTEM that has only specific items some rouge members may steal vast amounts of valuable items having access to them all from the guild bank thus this will stop anyone doing that.

    One of the guilds I'm in had it's guild bank open to all members had to stop new members as some ended up stealing vast amounts of guild items and contributed nothing back after the theft they left.

    Thus this could be open to all members with the secure normal guild banks items safer from theft.

    The game has long needed an overhaul to the guild bank slot amounts and as it like a lot of other things that are
    passed by this at least would free valuable GM's time and guild bank slots for other things.

    As a lot of suggestions to revamp the guild bank does not look like it would ever be implemented or happen either a trade bank is an easier approach.

    I thank you for you comment.
    Can you please let me know how many slots over 500 your guild has as you said at least 500+ please?

    Thank you.
  • giinoz2011rwb17_ESO
    Yes I would like a Guild Trade Bank.
    Danksta wrote: »
    I feel like I'm missing something here.... seems very much like the guild bank we already have.

    Similar but with the advantage that all valuable guild bank items can not be stolen by a rouge member/s, the only items available are ones that belong to a set.

    Hope that helps fill in the missing bit for you.

    BTW thanks for your comment.
  • giinoz2011rwb17_ESO
    Yes I would like a Guild Trade Bank.
    Danksta wrote: »
    I feel like I'm missing something here.... seems very much like the guild bank we already have.

    It is, except its specifically for you to dump all your junk gear so the Guildmaster won't send you a PM going "Please don't dump useless gear in the guild bank anymore, we need those slots for the auction items."

    If you want to give away gear, ask in guild chat.

    Thanks for your reply.
    Could any whom don't see the point please ask their GM or officers to please have a look at this idea?

    However what if someone should offer an item from a set toy want while your away from the game?
    Is there something or addon I don't have that will seek out and get an item you want?

    I also use tamrieltradecentre and look for items for sale I want sadly a lot don't exist still in it's data base.

    Yes GM's and officers can help and have assisted even me on other matters but why unless we are really stuck inquire of their valuable time do not they do so much running the guild?

    Do not our GM's and officers deserve to play the game and enjoy more time in game if they can and this idea could be one way that members can help others in our guilds, without taxing officers or GM's valuable time for requests, freeing up the Guild bank in some cases.
    If the officers or GM want an item for an auction an ability to lock out certain items could be added so they could then make up sets to raffle, auction, and have a message about it displayed.

    Further options and ideas about this Guild trade bank are in my mind and I'm sure even you could think of ways to either improve this idea or even the normal guild bank that so desperately cries out for overhaul.
    Edited by giinoz2011rwb17_ESO on December 11, 2017 5:22AM
  • rootimus
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    Yes I would like a Guild Trade Bank but would like a Poll by ZOS and commitment to implement it on reaching target amount.
    Another useful ability would be to debind items to place into Guild trade bank however the cost to do this would be up to ZOS.
    I would suggest 2k per item and gold goes to ZOS.

    That way items some players can not find can be available to assist with their sets, and allow them to trial sets they may not find in game.

    This would be a better gold sink than charging the 2 newbies who pay to 'port to wayshrines because they're not aware of the ways to bypass it. Bonus: being able to un-bind items would be useful.
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  • Azurya
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    NO I do not want a Guild Trade Bank.
    70% no, all clear! ;))
  • VaranisArano
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    Danksta wrote: »
    I feel like I'm missing something here.... seems very much like the guild bank we already have.

    It is, except its specifically for you to dump all your junk gear so the Guildmaster won't send you a PM going "Please don't dump useless gear in the guild bank anymore, we need those slots for the auction items."

    If you want to give away gear, ask in guild chat.

    No only sets, so crap items that have no worth as being a 3 to 5 part set can not be placed into trade bank.
    Thus items not for Auction are placed in this bank the original Guild bank remains for Auctions or whatever needs
    deemed by the GM.

    So, yeah, its there for you to dump your junk gear. Having a 5-bonus set piece does not mean its valuable. Far from it, and you know it. An item can be a 3-5 piece set and still be crap.

    Look, I know what goes into my guild bank and half of it I look at think "Guys, you wouldn't sell this in your guild slots, why are you dumping it here?" Honestly, anyone who picks up valuable gear is going to:
    A. Sell it on the guild store
    B. Donate it to the guild auction so guildies can buy it and profits benefit the guild
    C. Donate it to the guild raffle so it goes to a guildie.
    D. Offer it to guildies through chat (where your suggestion would actually be of use as an alternative, but again, defeated by the "mostly useless junk gear" problem)

    What I and the majority of my guilds would use this for would be to dump set piece gear that it isn't worth using store slots for in the hopes of making 200g. All those Rewards of the Worthy sets? All of them are set pieces, 90% of them are completely useless. Dumped. The vast majority of overland set pieces? Completely useless, unless someone has a really niche build and even then, its super easy to find those sets for sale cheap. I mostly vendor these now, but if I can maybe get 200g for them, how many pieces of Martial Knowledge, Way of the Air, and Way or Fire do you think I pick up on an average Craglorn loop? Its plenty. I don't sell them because nobody really wants them. So they'd be useless items wasting space in a guild bank, either the actual guild bank or your new gear bank.

  • giinoz2011rwb17_ESO
    Yes I would like a Guild Trade Bank.
    Danksta wrote: »
    I feel like I'm missing something here.... seems very much like the guild bank we already have.

    It is, except its specifically for you to dump all your junk gear so the Guildmaster won't send you a PM going "Please don't dump useless gear in the guild bank anymore, we need those slots for the auction items."

    If you want to give away gear, ask in guild chat.

    No only sets, so crap items that have no worth as being a 3 to 5 part set can not be placed into trade bank.
    Thus items not for Auction are placed in this bank the original Guild bank remains for Auctions or whatever needs
    deemed by the GM.

    So, yeah, its there for you to dump your junk gear. Having a 5-bonus set piece does not mean its valuable. Far from it, and you know it. An item can be a 3-5 piece set and still be crap.

    Look, I know what goes into my guild bank and half of it I look at think "Guys, you wouldn't sell this in your guild slots, why are you dumping it here?" Honestly, anyone who picks up valuable gear is going to:
    A. Sell it on the guild store
    B. Donate it to the guild auction so guildies can buy it and profits benefit the guild
    C. Donate it to the guild raffle so it goes to a guildie.
    D. Offer it to guildies through chat (where your suggestion would actually be of use as an alternative, but again, defeated by the "mostly useless junk gear" problem)

    What I and the majority of my guilds would use this for would be to dump set piece gear that it isn't worth using store slots for in the hopes of making 200g. All those Rewards of the Worthy sets? All of them are set pieces, 90% of them are completely useless. Dumped. The vast majority of overland set pieces? Completely useless, unless someone has a really niche build and even then, its super easy to find those sets for sale cheap. I mostly vendor these now, but if I can maybe get 200g for them, how many pieces of Martial Knowledge, Way of the Air, and Way or Fire do you think I pick up on an average Craglorn loop? Its plenty. I don't sell them because nobody really wants them. So they'd be useless items wasting space in a guild bank, either the actual guild bank or your new gear bank.

    Yes I 100% agree with you the crag dropped sets and others are I agree mostly useless, and crap not worth the effort in finding them. I use them for deconning to get the Yokudan mats that I either use or sell. The idea thank you for pointing it out is for the harder sets or purple and gold ones that are rare that drop via trials etc. I have not as yet found a way of the Air or Martial Knowledge jewellery gold items if weapons and armour and I want to I can make them to that level however I have not as yet seen any jewellery gold items gold items for a lot of the sets available in game. Some yes you can buy in Cyrodil or be very lucky and find one in a drop.

    Hmm Rewards for the worthy again I agree every time I see that I think it should be "Thanks for wasting your time have some 99.5% chance of more crap." To actually get a real reward I think I would be so full of shock I would not be able to move. it would have been better use of my time to make a coffee, roast dinner, or gone fishing. lol.

    Also it would have to have a multiple purge option for junk set items that can easily be farmed or stopping junk items
    being placed into it.

    Like so many things this is an idea to get peoples input also an option to select items having the trade bank also for Auctions/raffles automated so that GM and officers can do other things or have a time where items are sold given away from it. That could help members not having the full lvl 50 crafting for black wood or clothier to get decon stuff to build up their crafting lvl's.

    Most guilds I'm in have specific rules about the types of armour, weapons, jewellery that can be placed in them however this idea was mainly to free the main guild bank from this sort of stuff, allowing better items in main guild bank. As ZOS seem not to improve the guild bank or allow it to be expanded in slots nor allow a guild to grow past 500 members this option could at least alleviate some of the items from the guild bank.

    My main toon collects 160cp items and I used to feed to all my other toons to get them to lvl 50. I worked a way to get the ability to have all 9 traits available using multiple toons in less than 2 months then feed to my main which has had 9 traits for ages. Now I decon all the crap I collect if I decide to collect it for mats to sell or give away.

    I really think it's a serious cop out that we can not craft or at least improve jewellery, it was available in the beta but removed from game, thus should you want a gold item and a member had one would you consider this then a valid idea?
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    Jewelry Crafting is something almost everyone wants except for ZOS, probably because it would make rebalancing sets a pain now that you can wear 2 crafted sets. Most players would like that a lot.
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    NO I do not want a Guild Trade Bank.
    I've already put gear in our guild bank for others to use long ago, don't see a reason why we need an additional type of bank for this (apart from: "maybe some new player will pay money for my trash, let's put it in a special guild bank and tell them it's a privilege to get the gear for a small fee")
  • Dojohoda
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    NO I do not want a Guild Trade Bank.
    No, guild bank space is better managed by members not depositing junk.

    Also each member can list 30 items in the guild store if that is enabled. In a full guild of 500, that is up to 15000 items that members may select and purchase from members.
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  • giinoz2011rwb17_ESO
    Yes I would like a Guild Trade Bank.
    So if I put a Spinner or Necropotence lightning staff with critical or spell penetration in the bank, you can get it for 200G? Not to mention jewelry.

    Each item costs 200g (as example) to get out. The trade bank is only available to guild members, totally separate from normal guild bank.
    Most of the guilds I'm in use the Guild bank for items to raise funds for the trader.

    This bank is to assist guild members and guild.
    So if say you had the mentioned items and wanted to fill your 5 item requirement should they be available in the trade bank
    you don't have to wait for a random drop and can get your set.

    Then you could discard any unneeded (Edit. Part of a) SET items that could assist another guild member.

    EDIT..
    Yes a full set may well be worth 100k depending on the type and game market prices and other guild members could access a full set well below the normal price. However it was a suggested price of 200g it should be allowed to be set by the GM.

    Another spin off to this could also have it have guild officer or GM toggles to allow auctions/ purchases/ raffles to be run for the items without intervention by officers or GM freeing up their valuable time for other important things.
    Edited by giinoz2011rwb17_ESO on December 12, 2017 2:16PM
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