I wonder this myself. I know the answer, but I still wonder about it.










Answer, gotta keep you grinding...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1kcTdzKb_E

Question, for those who are at the cap (I have like 9 so long way for me)

If you hit the cap of 200 Crystals, does that include the Geodes? Can you have both Geodes and Crystals on hand if you have 200 Crystals?

starkerealm wrote: »

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Geodes almost certainly do not count towards the total. However, they do chew up an inventory slot, don't stack, and can't be banked (like any other container).

I realize that, but if you can keep a few Geodes that have say 10 or 50 Crystals in it, it can be worth using up a few slots.

Nestor wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

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Geodes almost certainly do not count towards the total. However, they do chew up an inventory slot, don't stack, and can't be banked (like any other container).

I realize that, but if you can keep a few Geodes that have say 10 or 50 Crystals in it, it can be worth using up a few slots.

Good point. If you turn auto-loot off, can you peek inside?

Nestor wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

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Geodes almost certainly do not count towards the total. However, they do chew up an inventory slot, don't stack, and can't be banked (like any other container).

I realize that, but if you can keep a few Geodes that have say 10 or 50 Crystals in it, it can be worth using up a few slots.

ooo I never thought of that. good call.

I find it funny that so many people complained that it would take 50 to change one piece of gear and now I'm seeing people already complaining about only being able to hold 200 (which obviously means that you already have all your traits where you want them.)

I do agree that a 100 cap is low 200 is more reasonable, I'm approaching that myself after having changed all of my main character's gear that still needed it, but honestly, they're so easy to get that it doesn't really matter if I hit cap and need to grind a bit later to get more for new gear.

jaws343 wrote: »

Imagine if you could only collect 20 purple tempers at a time and any others you picked up past that point were erased. The argument could be made that it prevents players from being able to improve all of their new gear to purple whenever they want or when new gear is released. But that is a terrible reason for a cap.

This. You wouldn't believe the salt in zone chat at the end of the 30 day cyrodiil campaign this month when a bunch of people opened geodes only to lose most of their crystals because they were near cap from RFTW. It certainly wasn't clearly explained that 200 was your limit, or that you just waste crystals if you open a geode which puts you over cap. Luckily, I wasn't affected, but only because I was warned in zone chat at end of campaign by people who weren't so lucky.

dotme wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

Imagine if you could only collect 20 purple tempers at a time and any others you picked up past that point were erased. The argument could be made that it prevents players from being able to improve all of their new gear to purple whenever they want or when new gear is released. But that is a terrible reason for a cap.

This. You wouldn't believe the salt in zone chat at the end of the 30 day cyrodiil campaign this month when a bunch of people opened geodes only to lose most of their crystals because they were near cap from RFTW. It certainly wasn't clearly explained that 200 was your limit, or that you just waste crystals if you open a geode which puts you over cap. Luckily, I wasn't affected, but only because I was warned in zone chat at end of campaign by people who weren't so lucky.

Yeah, just from this dungeon event and a few characters with 30 day campaigns ending, I am at the cap. I had already transmuted 2 items prior to that as well. And now, until I transmute a bunch of stuff, I am just going to have a bunch of unopened geodes sitting in the inventory of 11 characters for no good reason.

I may just create a bunch of weapons from sets that I use (or may use on future builds) in training or something and then transmute them all into nirnhoned to avoid wasting nirncrux.

The cap is definitely a problem. I am loosing inventory space badly due to the fact that I am at 199/200 and have nearly 30 unopened geodes on just one character and more on other characters. I don't have a lot of things to transmute as I can find a way to use about any trait. I am thinking about making a character that I only use to open RotW mails to put the geodes on a character that I am not using to play the game. As is, I can't play with a few of my characters due to the geodes in my inventory.

It's to make it so you don't have this massive stockpile of stones which make grinding for anything or getting a new trait unbelievably easy, and trivialize the need to change traits in the first place. There was a lot of concern around the economic impact in the game when the transmute stones were implemented, and so I assume this is a precaution to not make transmutation too good.

Transmutation is an asset for when you have bad RNG, so that way, you aren't completely wasting your time if you don't get what you want, because you can transmute and get what you want with enough time. This essentially guarantees that you will get something over a certain interval, but doesn't make it so you don't need to grind at all once you have enough.

A cap for transmute crystals (100 normal & 200 for ESO+ ) is a deliberate move.

It forces players to either:
1. Join a guild that has a transmutation station.
2. Spend 1250 writ vouchers on a transmutation station (good luck if you have that many of those )
3. Easiest solution : Buy a DLC and gain access to transmutation station.
4. Easiest solution : Buy a ESO+ and gain access to DLC and transmutation station.
5. Easiest solution : Buy a ESO+ and gain more cap for transmute crystals.

The point is - ZOS wants your inventory to be cluttered with Transmutation Geodes. If you are doing either PvP content or PvE content regularly (lets assume that it is you daily routine and you have been doing that content before clockwork city update):
After this update your inventory space started slowly to decrease...

Transmutation Geodes do not stack and mostly have like 1 - 4 transmute crystals. Furthermore - Transmutation Geodes can't be banked - meaning that they are inventory bound. So there is no way you could transfer them to other character inventory to keep them till you find that complete 5 pcs set of you dreams and tweak the traits a bit
(the only thing that I can think of is to get the mail with Transmutation Geodes on other character... but I am not sure it would work).

I noticed this tendency of adding one "extra" item to your inventory (that takes up space) with every new holiday event. Now with Transmutation Geodes I can say for certain that this is ZOS's new way to force people to use ESO+ for more inventory space (crafting bag+ double bank space).

Inventory space... it all comes to it. That is why housing has no storage - even though it was announced but was also scrapped fast...

Till ZOS will find a new way to encourage more people to use ESO+ - inventory will be the main factor...

Plenty of guilds with transmute stations, Order of magnus on PC-EU is one I'm in.

My guess is that they want to avoid players hoarding them like many like me do with undaunted keys.
Say update Q2 change balance or adds an new dungeon so you want the new set, now if you had 1000 crystals you could farm dungeon, swap pieces with others and could fast gear up all your alts in the new set.

Now the *** thing about the 100 limit is that if you use it as intended, say you farm Vicious Serpent like me on multiple characters you are forced to store or use rather than go until you have enough pieces or keys to get an good set.

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

brandonv516 wrote: »

The system is nice but stupid in its current form. Limiting players is just past practices. Why change now?

The system is designed to give a “finish line” for players that have spent time getting gear ... but not yet in the right trait.

The system is not intended to replace running content for the gear sets themselves ... hence the cap.

This doesn't make any sense at all. I could have 2 million transmutation crystals, but that still won't save me from having to grind some horrible DLC dungeon if I want the next Amberplasm.